Slain Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I started on a motorbike in the 70s UK and I had the same attitude that I would not die just by going fast and taking chances. I was lucky i had a few scrapes at low speed so no worries. What changed my attitude really was the continual road safety messages that were on the TV paid for by the government. These went on for years and when the seat belts were fitted 'Clunk clip' was the slogan that stuck in your mind. Later the drink drive slogans that seemed to be on tv about 3 times a day brought it home to me and most other people. Of course this was all backed up by the police by continually enforcing the laws by fines or prison. I don't think even these things would have changed some people into thinking about safety, but because these things combined and went on for many years, everyone was aware of the outcome of ignoring. Now of course in UK there are cameras everywhere so if you do something wrong i.e. dangerous you are very likely have to pay for it. So what I am hoping is someone in government looks at what other countries have done and will realise what action is needed to prevent many people from dying or being injured for life. Some one could be famous if they took this on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeall Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Henryford said: If the Government put 5% of the effort into road safety that they have into Covid it would save far more Thai lives. Covid affairs is more in the lime light in the world..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeall Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Snig27 said: +100 They simply don't care. Even simple things like enforcing crosswalks would make a difference. On the highways of the nation, vehicles and motorbikes weave like maniacs at speeds far above the supposed limits and zip is done about it even if the police are present. No care, no enforcement all. Meanwhile people with a few banners yesterday are a threat to the nation. nearly got it right.. a threat to........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 hours ago, DrJack54 said: I have always wondered why deaths that occur later in hospitals or even on the way to hospital are not included. Is there some strange reason for this? Yep , They Try to keep the numbers Down but they will still get the Gold Medal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickets Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 If I could only get $1 for every near miss I have seen id be a rich man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, upena said: To keep the numbers down - save face - or tourists will stop coming I think they take deaths on the road literaly , in an ambulance or a hospital bed is dying somewhere different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Groundhog Day thread.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: It is also why Trials here do not give the family closure, only a Wai and money from the offending party can. Yes I know it is utterly ridiculous. Not really. What does a trial benefit anyone? That's a Western concept. Far more practical for the victim or their family to receive financial compensation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, Leatherneck said: Time to quarantine all drivers in Thailand. They really tried when they had the lockdowns, and curfews, but you still had deaths from driving and well.... I wonder how many murders there have been since Covid and what the increased percentages are for all crimes as well as suicide.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmann Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Henryford said: If the Government put 5% of the effort into road safety that they have into Covid it would save far more Thai lives. if they can control the Virus. ,Why cant the control the road ,should be easier. ? ,rest world controls the roads. ,but cant control the Virus. ,where are yo better of Europe. or Thailand ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted July 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said: Not really. What does a trial benefit anyone? That's a Western concept. Far more practical for the victim or their family to receive financial compensation. Prosecution and the knowledge that the offender will be in prison and not able to kill or maim anyone else. However, as I stated that is not what happens here as for closure only money and moving onward solves that issue. Morals and cultures throughout the world are different everywhere, and if we are to live in that country we choose to, its best to accept the way of life. We can be as critical as we want, but at the end of the day we can never make any changes happen except in our own sphere of influence, and even then that does not always work. Enjoy each day that your feet are firmy planted on the ground and you are not either under it, or spread upon it..... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Magenta408 Posted July 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2020 Man-oh-man, and they worry over a few inflenza cases. Go figure. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambotte Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Makes year i and others say it : Just f.. learn the BASIC DRIVING RULES !!! It's just amazing (and it looks really really bad and stupid) how they make 5 or 6 ENORMOUS MISTAKES, all the time ! - Traffic circle (round about) : they stop in the middle... Clear signs on the road although, but they can not get it ! - Wrong way is a classic-classic for motorcycles - Engage without stoping, slow but "hey it's me i should pass", they sometimes look once engaged - Traffic light : ho but why don't we turn IN FRONT of the opposite cars : accidents GARANTEE with motorcycle coming sideway - On the road : a motorcycle coming opposite way : but why should i not pass, motorcycle is so small he can surely move aside for me ! - Or pass without any visibility (small hill)... I even saw a police car doing that ! Any car coming opposite and it's a crash garanteed. - Change of file without looking... To the dis(credit) of Thai people : problem is from the Department of transport, clearly ! - Funny : test for colors is f. WRONG in some places (or all) : Green dark, green light, and red. No yellow but you are supposed to guess what they want here. Anecdotic though. - How on earth can they make people watch hours of video, plus training, and the ONLY thing they learn is to use INDICATORS ???? Actually they mess up with that too many times... - A Thai friend confirm me she does absolutely not know how to drive, but they gave her the license... I would say the blame is on the Department. Nobody in this department to learn the BASICS and to make them teached ??? Looks really poor for Thailand. No one other country has such a problem. Even Vietnam, Cambodia, etc. But hey, just a "few" dozens of thousand people dead and millions people injured per year, why should we care, , it's not a virus ???? Not in the breaking news everyday ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Nothing is "news" about this. Same same. But BEWARE and TAKE COVER from the nonexistent virus in The Kingdom! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubon farang Posted July 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2020 58 dead covid 36 died in one day in road accidents dont make sense does it? Ok shut down the highways or dare might i say Make the bloody cops do there job Haha I just made myself laugh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugly American 2 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 But they are worried about covid! All BS! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphus Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Official government figures in vietnam are not much better either. 17,000 per year die onnthe roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Not so big problem. Covid!! That's the problem in LOS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Well, I don't think they need a comparison with Covid 19. If they get infected, can always blame on those those foreigners so it isn't their choice. With driving, it's their choice and they'll do what they d**n well want to...and blame it on road conditions. And those 'green grab' motorcyclists haven't don't care either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddinChonburi Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 To much road construction is slowing the pace, still have time left to set a new record. Lets go !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted July 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) Maybe they should open the borders, and lockdown Thai drivers instead. 60 deaths from COVID, 7,400 deaths from Thai drivers. Which one is more of a risk? Edited July 16, 2020 by BritManToo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khunkarl Posted July 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2020 5 hours ago, DrJack54 said: I have always wondered why deaths that occur later in hospitals or even on the way to hospital are not included. Is there some strange reason for this? It's not strange it's just that it would not look good to make the true figures official. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottinger Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Another "Campaign to raise awareness"? How about just confiscating everything that has more than one wheel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNROAMIN Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Watch it spike at the end of this month with proposed Songkran holiday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 This has always been the epidemic here in Thailand the numbers year after year leads the pandemic! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TERMINATOR3AB Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 oK looking at stats Thailand drives are very very bad and the Gov should be ashamed to alow this to continue However USA is not much better they have terrible drivers too 40,000 killed last year Yet they have a very efficient police force and traffic tickets are worth about as much as Thailand tourist industry So what is the Answer DRIVER EDUCTAION AND ENFORCEMENT TOGETHER Lose your licence go to prison make it hard Australia to date 1,100 dead on roads smaller population but 000,s miles of fast roads Drink drive AU Prison Speed AU 3 weeks wages Speed again LOSE licence Speed again lose car Well only 1.100 dead this year AU so far So I feel this system works OHH andAustralians are excellent trained drivers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas J Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 When will the stores be closed, check points for intoxicated drivers, ban on alcohol sales, stop the flights with crazy foreign drivers, impose a curfew or any of the other crazy ideas to stop Covid that had 58 total deaths in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 5 hours ago, DrJack54 said: I have always wondered why deaths that occur later in hospitals or even on the way to hospital are not included. Is there some strange reason for this? Thailand is already in the top 3 of the worst nations in the world for the road carnage, maybe they don't want to be far in front of the others leading the course with worse numbers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fraggleRock Posted July 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2020 After living here for so many years I have come to a self conclusion of where I don’t care how many Thai folks die on the roads - I am amused at the stupidity... because its clear Thais don’t care either ... if they chose to drive like idiots, drunk, without seatbelts, bold tyres, on the phone, sleep etc.. I just dont care, they deserve everything that comes there way... a total moral failure of society where they rarely help people but get there mobiles out to record it... a misfit country fed on xenophobic fodder and have no focus of anything or anyone but themselves, well Covid has exasperated the true Thai poor jungle republic mentality to the world..... this polished turd has been ‘found out’ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen65 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Am I supposed to be surprised?? Has Thailand really got any idea to deal with these shocking statistics? So far - NOT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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