St George's Day

[Pompeynick]

A happy St George's Day to all forum readers.

the traditional toast for the day is...

" CRY GOD for ELIZABETH , ENGLAND and ST GEORGE"

Cheers!!

[martaway]

God Save The Queen

[Samui Coconut]

God Save The Queen

yeap, and Willy and Harry, Charly and Camilla, and the rest of the gang.

[adaminsamui]

Blimey, didn't relise it was that day today, no mention on any UK website?? untill i looked it up on search engine.. Must be the PC Lot in UK covering up this day so not to offend!

Should be celebrated the same way as St Patricks Day , are there any St.georges day bashes on Samui tonight?

[Pompeynick]

the ELEPHANT and CASTLE in ban-rak are having a good evening of fun with games loads of grub and yard of ale etc.

unfortunately I can't this year but will make up for it next year!!

Edited April 23, 2007 by Pompeynick

[Rinrada]

George who was actually a native of Palestine and who had a punch up with Diocletian in Nicomedia on the Bosporus quite some time ago was unfortunately finally collered and executed over there ....and.....

So since he is to say the least a bit contentious...... ...

Isnt it time to replace him as the patron saint of England?

Couple of interesting suggesting from readers of the local.wotsit .including one suggestion for a good old East End Boy .......

The simplest way to respond to a “crusade for a real English patron saint” would be to revert to the two patron saints who were replaced by St George in the late Middle Ages and go for a REAL patron saint of England

I would strongly endorse the claims of St Edward, King and Confessor, the penultimate Saxon King of the English.

Reigning from 1042 until his death in 1066, his reputation for generosity, accessibility and holiness began during his lifetime and culminated in his canonisation in 1161.

He was a descendant of the Royal House of Wessex, and thus of Alfred the Great, as also, through the female line, were Kings Henry II, who successfully pressed for canonisation, and Henry III, who rebuilt the Confessor’s great church, Westminster Abbey.

Two years ago the Abbey celebrated the millennium of Edward’s birth with celebrations around the date of the translation of his relics.

His shrine was undisturbed through the upheaval of the Reformation and remains at the heart of our national life in the Abbey he loved and built.

Edmund the Martyr was King of the East Angles, who, like his near contemporary, Alfred of Wessex, had to contend with the mid-9th century depredations of the invading Vikings. Captured at Hoxne, on the borders of Norfolk and Suffolk, he is believed to have refused to deny Christ, and died a victim of the pagan invaders in AD870.

Bury St Edmunds, where he was buried, became one of the most famous shrines of medieval England.

These two kings are the authentic and historical patron saints of England and ought to be restored to that role.

THE REV DAVID F., Stow-on-the-Wold, Glos

No need to look further than Thomas à Becket — for centuries England’s most popular saint.

He was born in Cheapside, the son of a mercer, canonised within two years of his death and has the most venerated tomb in Europe, thronged with pilgrims, including that other London boy, Chaucer. anna milford City of London Guide Sir. Saint Oswald, King and martyr, is a strong candidate for the role.

He was born in the Saxon royal line and became a Christian while exiled to Iona as a young man, where he saw the faith of the Irish monks. He defeated the pagan armies which had largely destroyed the church set up in Northumbria by Paulinus and King Edwin.

When Oswald became king, he invited St Aidan from Iona to found an abbey on the island of Lindisfarne, and this is where many of our early bishops grew in their faith.

His kingly role included working as interpreter to St Aidan and he completed the first Minster at York in stone.

Oswald’s faith is also celebrated in Europe, where there are more than 170 churches dedicated to him in Germany, France, Austria, Switzerland and Italy.

His statue overlooks the Grand Canal in Venice.

A saint for Europe as well perhaps?

DAVID G., York

Worth thinking about .. ...also agree should be a hol......we dont have enough.....

[PIKE]

George who was actually a native of Palestine and who had a punch up with Diocletian in Nicomedia on the Bosporus quite some time ago was unfortunately finally collered and executed over there ....and.....

So since he is to say the least a bit contentious...... ...

Isnt it time to replace him as the patron saint of England?

Couple of interesting suggesting from readers of the local.wotsit .including one suggestion for a good old East End Boy .......

The simplest way to respond to a "crusade for a real English patron saint" would be to revert to the two patron saints who were replaced by St George in the late Middle Ages and go for a REAL patron saint of England

I would strongly endorse the claims of St Edward, King and Confessor, the penultimate Saxon King of the English.

Reigning from 1042 until his death in 1066, his reputation for generosity, accessibility and holiness began during his lifetime and culminated in his canonisation in 1161.

He was a descendant of the Royal House of Wessex, and thus of Alfred the Great, as also, through the female line, were Kings Henry II, who successfully pressed for canonisation, and Henry III, who rebuilt the Confessor's great church, Westminster Abbey.

Two years ago the Abbey celebrated the millennium of Edward's birth with celebrations around the date of the translation of his relics.

His shrine was undisturbed through the upheaval of the Reformation and remains at the heart of our national life in the Abbey he loved and built.

Edmund the Martyr was King of the East Angles, who, like his near contemporary, Alfred of Wessex, had to contend with the mid-9th century depredations of the invading Vikings. Captured at Hoxne, on the borders of Norfolk and Suffolk, he is believed to have refused to deny Christ, and died a victim of the pagan invaders in AD870.

Bury St Edmunds, where he was buried, became one of the most famous shrines of medieval England.

These two kings are the authentic and historical patron saints of England and ought to be restored to that role.

THE REV DAVID F., Stow-on-the-Wold, Glos

No need to look further than Thomas à Becket — for centuries England's most popular saint.

He was born in Cheapside, the son of a mercer, canonised within two years of his death and has the most venerated tomb in Europe, thronged with pilgrims, including that other London boy, Chaucer. anna milford City of London Guide Sir. Saint Oswald, King and martyr, is a strong candidate for the role.

He was born in the Saxon royal line and became a Christian while exiled to Iona as a young man, where he saw the faith of the Irish monks. He defeated the pagan armies which had largely destroyed the church set up in Northumbria by Paulinus and King Edwin.

When Oswald became king, he invited St Aidan from Iona to found an abbey on the island of Lindisfarne, and this is where many of our early bishops grew in their faith.

His kingly role included working as interpreter to St Aidan and he completed the first Minster at York in stone.

Oswald's faith is also celebrated in Europe, where there are more than 170 churches dedicated to him in Germany, France, Austria, Switzerland and Italy.

His statue overlooks the Grand Canal in Venice.

A saint for Europe as well perhaps?

DAVID G., York

Worth thinking about .. ...also agree should be a hol......we dont have enough.....

Thanks for the history lesson,but St George should remain our patron saint,as for a saint for Europe,no way!!

yes,we should try to organize a bash for next year.

[susquosh]

A happy St George's Day to all forum readers.

the traditional toast for the day is...

" CRY GOD for ELIZABETH , ENGLAND and ST GEORGE"

Cheers!!

As you are nearly quoting the Bard dont forget William Shakespeare was born and died on this day.

[Rinrada]

Agree and all good stuff...

I might not be "angrit" but one canna fail tae appreciate his most profound words and sentiments.

A credit to the English speaking race..........tis a pity however................

anyway...for a hay nonny no and a hay nonna nay......couple of his finest excs....

We few, we happy few, we band of brothers . . ." (Act IV, Scene III)

"This star of England: fortune made his sword . . ." Chorus (Epilogue)

"Cry ‘God for Harry, England, and Saint George!’ " (Act III, Scene I)

"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more / Or close the wall up with our English dead!" (Act III, Scene I)