Florida records 9,300 new coronavirus cases, blows past New York

[webfact]

Florida records 9,300 new coronavirus cases, blows past New York

By Diane Craft

 

FILE PHOTO: EMTs cleanse their materials outside Memorial West Hospital where coronavirus disease (COVID-19) patients are treated, in Pembroke Pines, Florida, U.S. July 13, 2020. REUTERS/Maria Alejandra Cardona/File Photo

 

(Reuters) - Florida on Sunday became the second state after California to overtake New York, the worst-hit state at the start of the U.S. novel coronavirus outbreak, according to a Reuters tally.

 

Total COVID-19 cases in the Sunshine State rose by 9,300 to 423,855 on Sunday, just one place behind California, which now leads the country with 448,497 cases. New York is in third place with 415,827 cases.

 

Still, New York has recorded the most deaths of any U.S. state at more than 32,000 with Florida in eighth place with nearly 6,000 deaths.

 

On average, Florida has added more than 10,000 cases a day in July while California has been adding 8,300 cases a day and New York has been adding 700 cases.

 

The surge in Florida has continued as the state's Republican Governor Ron DeSantis has repeatedly said he will not make mask-wearing mandatory and that schools must reopen in August.

 

On the contrary, New York state has managed to get the virus under control, with stores and restaurants shuttered and the wearing of masks mandatory.

 

Florida on Sunday overtook New York in cases of the novel coronavirus, behind only California in the U.S. epidemic. Lisa Bernhard produced this report.

 

The rise in cases also comes as President Donald Trump is pushing to re-open U.S. schools in the fall, despite teachers' and families' concerns that children could contract or transmit the disease should they return to the classroom.

 

After New York, Texas has the most total coronavirus cases at 391,000. Texas Governor Greg Abbott said Tropical Storm Hanna, which made landfall on Saturday as a Category 1 hurricane, was especially challenging as it was sweeping through an area of the state that has been the worst hit by the coronavirus.

 

For the tenth time in July, Alaska set a record for a one-day rise in cases, with 234 new infections on Sunday, bringing the state's total to 3,100.

 

Oklahoma hit a record for new cases five times in July, with 1,204 new infections on Sunday bringing the state's total to 31,285.

 

More than 146,000 Americans have died of COVID-19 - nearly a quarter of the global total -- and there are nearly 4.2 million confirmed cases in the country, or at least 1 in 79 people have been infected.

 

(Reporting by Diane Craft; Editing by Lisa Shumaker and Daniel Wallis)

 

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[4reaL]

It will get worse once the normal influenza season starts and there is no grasp on these current infections.

 

 

[Yinn]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

On average, Florida has added more than 10,000 cases a day in July while California has been adding 8,300 cases a day and New York has been adding 700 cases.

 

Hmmmm. Why that way?

 

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The surge in Florida has continued as the state's Republican Governor Ron DeSantis has repeatedly said he will not make mask-wearing mandatory and that schools must reopen in August.

 

On the contrary, New York state has managed to get the virus under control, with stores and restaurants shuttered and the wearing of masks mandatory.

Oh. Understand now.

 

can reduce covid a lot if wear the mask. To difficult for some people. Selfish. Against human right.

 

Two month ago the anti maskers say thailand lucky because the hot. Mask is stupid.

Repeat everyday. 

 

Now is summer season in USA. Florida and California is hot more than New York. India big problem now. Brazil hot place. 

 

Mask work effective reduce covid spread. sure.

 

Impossible covid will finish in USA etc this year because the idiots= economy in the world be terrible next year.

Selfish.

 

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Florida on Sunday became the second state after California to overtake New York,

 

 

Gee. 

[Tug]

How’s that it’s my right not to wear a mask working out Rick?imo bottom line ignore trump and his ilk everyone knows what to do just do it and if some idiot doesent want to a good old fashion ass kicking would do wonders no mask equals getting beat up

[innosiem]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

On the contrary, New York state has managed to get the virus under control, with stores and restaurants shuttered and the wearing of masks mandatory.

 

Yet Sweden has done even better without the draconian measures

 

[Yinn]

10 minutes ago, innosiem said:

 

Yet Sweden has done even better without the draconian measures

 

No. Not successful.

Sweden dead 5,697 dead. China less dead.

thailand 58

 

[bodga]

36 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Brazil hot place.

Brazil is a massive country with many different climatic  zones, its  not  all  hot. The lowest temperature  recorded in Brazil was -14c

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Brazil

[jybkk]

5 hours ago, innosiem said:

so everyone has had it but nobody has noticed
and death count is still the same as the flu????‍♂️

i wonder how many people that test positive, previously had a flu vaccine ?

Do you even try to think before posting somthing?

Everything you said is demonstratably wrong.

 

How can you deduce that everyone has been infected from the fact that Florida has had 400K cases out of a population of 21 millions?

 

How can you think the death count is still the same as the flu with 150K US Covid deaths in less than 6 months while flu deaths range from 20 to 60K per year.

 

The flu vaccine has no impact on testing positive or not. This is not how PCR works. Not at all.

 

Oh, and even if this was killing the same as the flu, does it make it ok? Putting it in terms you might understand: Imagine after you paid your taxes, the government comes back and makes you pay again for the same amount. "No big deal, it's not worse than what I paid already".

 

People like you just refuse to confront the reality of the issue because deep inside you're scared.

[CorpusChristie]

4 hours ago, bodga said:

Brazil is a massive country with many different climatic  zones, its  not  all  hot. The lowest temperature  recorded in Brazil was -14c

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Brazil

Yeah take the lowest temperature ever recorded  to show that a tropical climate country isnt a hot weathered country ????

[tomazbodner]

One more Trump rally and US could well end up as No. 1 in the World...

 

Oh, wait a minute...

[innosiem]

seems some people here don't understand how herd immunity works????‍♂️
someone let the xenophobe know
 

[innosiem]

45 minutes ago, jybkk said:

How can you think the death count is still the same as the flu with 150K US Covid deaths in less than 6 months while flu deaths range from 20 to 60K per year.

Globally the death count is the same as the flu
Flu Kills 646,000 People Worldwide Each Year: Study
if it makes it easier for you just change "everyone" to "most people"????

people are being counted as covid death simply because they test positive (guidance from CDC) regardless of what actually kills them
many have underlying conditions, not to mention the financial incentive to hospitals to diagnose them with covid
(negative test results can still be diagnosed as positive according to FDA testing protocol)

in the UK 95% of "covid deaths" have pre-existing underlying conditions
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/

then we have people being shot 7 times, but "died from covid"
Man who tried suicide by cop to avoid COVID-19 death succumbs to virus

and thousands more people reported as "covid deaths" who were never tested
New York City adds 3,700 to death toll of coronavirus without ever having tested them

Do you even try to think before posting something?

 

Edited July 27, 2020 by innosiem

[Chomper Higgot]

6 hours ago, innosiem said:

 

Yet Sweden has done even better without the draconian measures

 

And the population density of Sweden is?

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, innosiem said:

Globally the death count is the same as the flu
Flu Kills 646,000 People Worldwide Each Year: Study
if it makes it easier for you just change "everyone" to "most people"????

people are being counted as covid death simply because they test positive (guidance from CDC) regardless of what actually kills them
many have underlying conditions, not to mention the financial incentive to hospitals to diagnose them with covid
(negative test results can still be diagnosed as positive according to FDA testing protocol)

in the UK 95% of "covid deaths" have pre-existing underlying conditions
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/

then we have people being shot 7 times, but "died from covid"
Man who tried suicide by cop to avoid COVID-19 death succumbs to virus

and thousands more people reported as "covid deaths" who were never tested
New York City adds 3,700 to death toll of coronavirus without ever having tested them

Do you even try to think before posting something?

 

The Coronavirus pandemic is far from over and many nations and hundreds of millions of people have taken measures to reduce the spread of the infections.

 

Your comparisons make no sense.

[animalmagic]

9 minutes ago, innosiem said:

seems some people here don't understand how herd immunity works????‍♂️
someone let the xenophobe know
 

Herd immunity definition is - a reduction in the risk of infection with a specific communicable disease (such as measles or influenza) that occurs when a significant proportion of the population has become immune to infection (as because of previous exposure or vaccination) so that susceptible individuals are much less likely to come in contact with infected individuals.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/herd immunity

 

It does not appear that a significant proportion of the population has become immune to infection as the current infection rates are growing daily; the risk of infection seems to be quite high in some countries.  I'm not a scientist but it does seem that herd immunity cannot be predicted to occur at a certain time in the future and in many cases can only be noted after the event.  Currently herd immunity is something that politicians are wishing/praying for.

[Chomper Higgot]

17 minutes ago, innosiem said:

seems some people here don't understand how herd immunity works????‍♂️
someone let the xenophobe know
 

Can you provide the evidence that Herd Immunity for the Coronavirus is attainable?

[innosiem]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

The Coronavirus pandemic is far from over and many nations and hundreds of millions of people have taken measures to reduce the spread of the infections.

Your comparisons make no sense.

that is the whole point
the draconian measures taken only prolong herd immunity or prevent it altogether
as we can clearly see with Sweden.
 

[innosiem]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Can you provide the evidence that Herd Immunity for the Coronavirus is attainable?

can you provide evidence that it is not ?

providing there are no lock downs etc. to prevent it.........oh wait, too late for that????‍♂️

Edited July 27, 2020 by innosiem

[steelepulse]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And the population density of Sweden is?

Stockholm in the nursing homes you mean?  Why, it's quite high as is  the population density of Stockholm.

 

How about the stats of a grand total of 71 people under the age of 50 dying from covid in Sweden? 

 

How about the fact of those that died of covid had an average age older than pre covid days? The same applies to New York.  

 

How about this graph that shows the US number of deaths being as the same as march levels?  Looks like there isn't any correlation to cases and deaths now does it.  In fact, cases are up, deaths are down just like every seasonal flu and coronavirus that have come before this.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, innosiem said:

can you provide evidence that it is not ?

providing there are no lock downs etc. to prevent it.........oh wait, too late for that????‍♂️

If you found your arguments on herd immunity for this disease it is for you to demonstrate herd immunity is attainable.

 

Your assertion, you back it up.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, steelepulse said:

Stockholm in the nursing homes you mean?  Why, it's quite high as is  the population density of Stockholm.

 

How about the stats of a grand total of 71 people under the age of 50 dying from covid in Sweden? 

 

How about the fact of those that died of covid had an average age older than pre covid days? The same applies to New York.  

 

How about this graph that shows the US number of deaths being as the same as march levels?  Looks like there isn't any correlation to cases and deaths now does it.  In fact, cases are up, deaths are down just like every seasonal flu and coronavirus that have come before this.

 

 

Please provide a link to where you obtained the ‘graph’ you have posted.

 

 

The US is currently facing a death toll of 1000 deaths per day, refer link below:

 

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/coronavirus-updates-hundreds-texas-bar-owners-pledge-defiance/story?id=71982262

[bodga]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

Yeah take the lowest temperature ever recorded  to show that a tropical climate country isnt a hot weathered country ????

Feel  free to dispute the fact that Brazil does not have many different climatic  zones, I'm waiting

[FritsSikkink]

7 hours ago, innosiem said:

so everyone has had it but nobody has noticed
and death count is still the same as the flu????‍♂️

i wonder how many people that test positive, previously had a flu vaccine ?

The flu doesn't flood your ICU's, idiots not wearing masks and behave like nothing has happened do.

Edited July 27, 2020 by FritsSikkink

[ThaiFelix]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

More than 146,000 Americans have died of COVID-19 - nearly a quarter of the global total -- and there are nearly 4.2 million confirmed cases in the country, or at least 1 in 79 people have been infected.

Gee its a good thing that Trump has got this thing "under control", imagine the figures if he wasnt in control.  But the thing I dont understand is when is it supposed to just "go away"??  MAGA lol!

[paddypower]

I'm interested in further discussion of the OP, because events in Florida have followed a similar trajectory as in the UK. Both refused to recognise that long after the alarm bells rang - there needed to be clear guidelines, with proper enforcement measures, to restrict large gatherings of the public. we saw it with the UK allowing the hobnobs to have their Chelteham party, Europe has international football; and Florida Gov. DeSantis allowed Spring Break, amongst his continuing idiocracy. Both UK and Florida (and other Republican governed States) have refused requiring mandatory mask, mostly. Also, there is a shortage of testing and timely reporting - not to mention that townships in Florida and the UK are reporting a shortage of ICU beds. Obama, despite his faults, left a hard copy legacy and a trained international organization to handle such an epidemic. It got trashed due to one man's ego. I don't believe that this virus happened because Planet Earth got p/o'd with us - mankind has elected mostly incompetent governments to take care of us; certainly in the West, we and thsoe we elect have become lazy, soft, weak.

Will we learn from this? I am trying, but I'm not sure enough others will.

Edited July 27, 2020 by paddypower

[FritsSikkink]

7 hours ago, innosiem said:

 

Yet Sweden has done even better without the draconian measures

 

No they are doing worse than their neighboring countries

[FritsSikkink]

59 minutes ago, innosiem said:

that is the whole point
the draconian measures taken only prolong herd immunity or prevent it altogether
as we can clearly see with Sweden.
 

Stop spreading fake news.

[mrfill]

7 hours ago, bodga said:

Brazil is a massive country with many different climatic  zones, its  not  all  hot. The lowest temperature  recorded in Brazil was -14c

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Brazil

Its equatorial and has a lot of tropical rain forest.

 

Thailand's lowest temperature is -1.4c. Are you suggesting that Thailand is therefore cold?

[CorpusChristie]

1 hour ago, bodga said:

Feel  free to dispute the fact that Brazil does not have many different climatic  zones, I'm waiting

60 % of Brazilians (Which is about the population of Thailand) live in a tropical climate , that is similar to Thailands climate 

[candide]

1 hour ago, innosiem said:

Globally the death count is the same as the flu
Flu Kills 646,000 People Worldwide Each Year: Study
if it makes it easier for you just change "everyone" to "most people"????

people are being counted as covid death simply because they test positive (guidance from CDC) regardless of what actually kills them
many have underlying conditions, not to mention the financial incentive to hospitals to diagnose them with covid
(negative test results can still be diagnosed as positive according to FDA testing protocol)

in the UK 95% of "covid deaths" have pre-existing underlying conditions
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/

then we have people being shot 7 times, but "died from covid"
Man who tried suicide by cop to avoid COVID-19 death succumbs to virus

and thousands more people reported as "covid deaths" who were never tested
New York City adds 3,700 to death toll of coronavirus without ever having tested them

Do you even try to think before posting something?

 

(1) Wait for the end of this year, in order to be able to compare Covid-19 numbers with yearly flu numbers

(2) There is a reliable way to check the validity of covid-19 death: the number of excess death (see the FT article). In most countries the number of official CV deaths in close to or below the number of excess death.

(3) Not a good idea to choose UK as an example to support your claim. With only 45,752 reported CV deaths and 65,700 excess deaths, it is one of the countries with the highest percentage of unreported CV deaths.

https://www.ft.com/content/a26fbf7e-48f8-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441