1 minute ago, bert bloggs said:

i wish our world was as pure as yours ,unfortunatly ,we live in the real one.

 I do live in the real world, which is why I look at all the facts instead of just those which confirm my prejudices.

 

That way I can come to an informed opinion. It may be the wrong opinion, but at least, unlike those of you people, it will be informed.

 

I also try and answer questions put to me; something you and your cohorts fail to do so regularly it's become a cliché!

 

Unless one of you comes up with something new, extremely doubtful, I see no point in responding further.

14 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

Of course you have more knowledge of what is happening on the streets here in the UK than I; after all, unlike you and your cohorts, I only live here!

 

I stand by my comments, and have nothing further to say to people like you on this subject.

I spent 50 years on the London streets, was a mini cab driver for 7 years, so think I know a lot more than you regarding those London streets. 

Crime in London is now worse than when I was last there, my friends and a London Policeman tell me so. In fact when I was last there my house had to be alarmed day and night, leave something in the front garden, it was gone.

Anyhoooo, a rare link from me, now this coloured lady thinks exactly the same as me, and she requests something that will make you happy, but for different reasons.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5UHG0nVi_E

11 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 I do live in the real world, which is why I look at all the facts instead of just those which confirm my prejudices.

 

That way I can come to an informed opinion. It may be the wrong opinion, but at least, unlike those of you people, it will be informed.

 

I also try and answer questions put to me; something you and your cohorts fail to do so regularly it's become a cliché!

 

Unless one of you comes up with something new, extremely doubtful, I see no point in responding further.

you have never asked me a question ,just put down anything i say ,so i also agree with you ,no point you responding further ,you are a voice in the wilderness , you just have to read the papers daily to see who mainly commits the crimes ,hold illegal gatherings ,on and on . oh and i dealt with and worked amongst the people i talk about ,so i do know a little .

12 hours ago, 7by7 said:

More ranting; more ignoring the facts by you. Hardly surprising.

 

If racial profiling of drivers is reducing drug and knife crime, explain why the figures from the police themselves show that for every 100 White drivers stopped, 760 Black drivers are stopped but, for every 100 white drivers stopped, 50 were arrested; for every 100 Black drivers stopped 19 were arrested. So every two stops of White drivers resulted in an arrest, but the police had to stop just over 5 Black drivers before making an arrest!

 

You can't; unless you are saying that Whites are nearly three times as likely to be involved in knife and/or drug crime than Blacks. Are you saying that?

Don't try to put your apologist words into my mouth. You know how you like to twist them. I'd tell you if I thought whites were more likely to be involved in knife and/or drug crime. Just not 'appenin bruv innit?

 

The facts are that Black drivers are more likely to be involved in some sort of criminal activity. That may be either before, during or after their driving. That the arrest rate for these is less than for whites only implies that they are now hiding their activities better, or simply not being arrested for their illegal activities whilst out on the roads. So long as that profile are being hampered in those activities, the police are doing their job.

 

It could also be that police have for some time being 'bending the knee' for them and not making arrests where they should. Do the police appease black motorists if they are subjected to a barrage of abuse and potential allegations of racial profiling?  It would appear that is now a frequent outcome, so a Police Caution is issued and no arrest recorded. 

Hardly surprising, as it happens all the time.

On 8/17/2020 at 6:42 PM, 7by7 said:

 

 

Youth crime, gang crime, drug dealing etc. is not the subject here; stopping drivers is.

 

 

Actually, it's not, UK job losses hit decade-high, worse seen ahead is, but that's by-the-by when you get on your soap box.

 

Edited August 19, 20205 yr by Loiner

16 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

I stand by my comments, and have nothing further to say to people like you on this subject.

 

12 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

Unless one of you comes up with something new, extremely doubtful, I see no point in responding further.

You say these things, but you cannot be relied on to keep your word.

On 8/17/2020 at 11:10 PM, englishoak said:

I was brought up near white hart lane Tottenham. I used to hate getting stopped what seemed to me bias targeting as a teen all the time. It turns out, I was just young and doing things the youth does, being stupid, showing off to mates, being a cocky driver/rider, living in the city and area where there are more police and more active in stopping drivers and zero tolerance made me an easy target and i sure got my share of attention......luckily for me i had a wake up call, got my head down and grafted my way out.

I used to hate getting pulled up in south London for smoking weed or being mischievous in the mid-80s.  The police weren't quite as touchy-feely as they are now and you could expect a good shake down if they thought you were up to no good and, more often than not, I was up to no good.  

 

Just took it on the chin as part of growing up and didn't feel the need to blame the system, Uncle Tom Cobley, my parents or upbringing.  

 

Once I got bored of being a rebel then I also worked my way out of the <deleted> hole that is suburban London and now look at life from the opposite end of the spectrum.  

 

What happened to personal responsibility?

 

Edited August 19, 20205 yr by torturedsole

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