Thailand Seeks Safe Way of Reopening Borders to Boost Economy

[Jumbo1968]

15 minutes ago, Bangkocker said:

Maybe so -but never forget the thousands of graves that we dug in Italy not so long ago for a little virus. Stick to the subject and no red herrings please cobba.

No red herrings what ever that means, according to Thai Government figures if the figures are to be believed the chances if being killed or injured in an accident are significantly greater than contracting Covid19. 
 

[Bangkocker]

6 minutes ago, connda said:

I'd rather live in Sweden than about any other place in the world. 

Bring your credit card. They don't accept cash.

[Bangkocker]

2 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

No red herrings what ever that means, according to Thai Government figures if the figures are to be believed the chances if being killed or injured in an accident are significantly greater than contracting Covid19. 
 

Oh dear  you don't understand. A red herring is something thrown into an argument to divert attention away from the topic at hand. PS stay off the roads in Thailand and you won't come to grief. And never go bare backed with anyone.

Edited August 24, 2020 by Bangkocker

[3NUMBAS]

News

Coronavirus: China has been giving potential vaccine to key workers since July

Helen Davidson

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The Guardian•24 August 2020

 

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/china-giving-potential-coronavirus-vaccine-053052741.html

[Jumbo1968]

3 minutes ago, Bangkocker said:

Oh dear  you don't understand. A red herring is something thrown into an argument to divert attention away from the topic at hand. PS stay off the roads in Thailand and you won't come to grief. And never go bare backed with anyone.

Like the Thai Government focussing all their people’s attention on Covid diverting their attention away from more important issues in Thailand.
I never drive on the roads in Thailand and have a partner of over 6 years so going bare back isn’t a problem.

[rabang]

Someone needs to tell this to these people: No, there are no people without money or time limitations camping at foreign countries' airports waiting eagerly for the first chance to get into Thailand.

[3NUMBAS]

not enough planes and pilots  and crew will be available for many years to service long haul on a daily basis as was the norm and the previous pax are jobless and cashless to consider such trips any time soon

[rabang]

46 minutes ago, Bangkocker said:

Well unless we have a vaccine soon it will come down to 'survival of the fittest'. Anyone willing to take the risk? And if you read about the Swedish model - It's been a total disaster.

Cases going way down and very few deaths anymore. If they stay that way they are pretty much done with corona.

[natalibera]

2 hours ago, ExpatOne said:

Chinese will. Like I’ve posted before, they don’t care about those of us with a western mindset who buck against control. They want Chinese here. Chinese are used to being controlled.

Chinese have 10-day leave period.

[kiwikeith]

13 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Tourists from countries with limited infections will probably be required to wear wristbands with GPS tracking systems and will need to be quarantined in a hotel for the first 14 days, 

 

Thai tour companies report robust sales as people are rushing to line up for some of this extraordinary holiday action!  ????

 

 

Wrist bands are ankle bracelets worn on the wrist, maybe a sign of things to come, none of the things to come would tolerate this other than brain dead tourists with to much money. 

[vermin on arrival]

1 hour ago, Bangkocker said:

Well unless we have a vaccine soon it will come down to 'survival of the fittest'. Anyone willing to take the risk? And if you read about the Swedish model - It's been a total disaster.

Not true at all. The big failure was in not protecting the nursing homes which resulted in the vast majority of their deaths and the very high death rate per million, something which Anders Tegnell deeply regrets. This problem has since been corrected, and it seems that the majority of the Swedish population and health care practitioners/community are quite happy with the situation in Sweden now.

 

View the current graph-low case numbers, and for August there have been single digit daily mortalities with many cases the number being 0, seems like they are through the worst of it, and only need to be concerned about a possible second wave this winter. However, with a 10%+ antibody rate in Stockholm and 30% testing for specific t-cell memory immunity, they are in a good position to handle that.

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

[DrTuner]

Instead of GPS bracelets for tourists, I'd like to propose explosive collars for the ministers. Every time they let out such extreme stupidity it should trigger. We should be out of idiotic ministers by the end of the year.

Edited August 24, 2020 by DrTuner

[richard_smith237]

22 minutes ago, rabang said:

1 hour ago, Bangkocker said:

Well unless we have a vaccine soon it will come down to 'survival of the fittest'. Anyone willing to take the risk? And if you read about the Swedish model - It's been a total disaster.

Cases going way down and very few deaths anymore. If they stay that way they are pretty much done with corona.

Indeed - there are reports suggesting that Sweden is ‘the’ success story, although opinion is so heavily politicised its difficult to really know until ‘the numbers are in’ towards the end of the year or even in a couple of years. 

 

 

[DrTuner]

4 minutes ago, vermin on arrival said:

Not true at all. The big failure was in not protecting the nursing homes which resulted in the vast majority of their deaths and the very high death rate per million, something which Anders Tegnell deeply regrets. This problem has since been corrected, and it seems that the majority of the Swedish population and health care practitioners/community are quite happy with the situation in Sweden now.

 

View the current graph-low case numbers, and for August there have been single digit daily mortalities with many cases the number being 0, seems like they are through the worst of it, and only need to be concerned about a possible second wave this winter. However, with a 10%+ antibody rate in Stockholm and 30% testing for specific t-cell memory immunity, they are in a good position to handle that.

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

It seems to be what's happening in Europe now. I just read that in Finland there are today 11 persons in hospital and none of them in ICU, even when infections have gone up a bit. The average age is also lower. The situation is much more benign than when it first hit, the most vulnerable have been hit and it isn't causing severe illness to the rest.

Edited August 24, 2020 by DrTuner

[joecoolfrog]

13 hours ago, Dan O said:

I think there are quite a few "tourists" that would come given the chance to if borders were opened to allow it. Many tourist come for longer than 2 weeks. I certainly would. The cost of the ASQ hotels are not all in the same 100k range and if more tourist could come then more hotels would participate in the program to generate income. 

Well it wont tempt me but maybe a couple of thousand might be game.

Drop in the ocean though really , not going to save many tourist jobs .

[Mac98]

Target long-stay visitors. Free 90-day visas with one renewal for 1900b. How many American retirees would love to escape COVID Central this coming winter? A 2-week quarantine would be a picnic. COVID insurance? It might be useful during quarantine but then the tourist is cleared into a country with no C-19 cases. Sell ir upon arrival, good for one month, for 1,000b. A million visitors raises one billion baht. Should cover the handful of cases found, especially as most by far will have no serious consequences.

Edited August 24, 2020 by Mac98
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[daejung]

14 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

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Either way , no tourist in their right mind is going to spend 14 days in thai quarantine , take 2 weeks on a beach and then isolate for 14 days in return.

 

These officials truly must be the most idiotic and unrealistic people of the face of the entire planet

You have to go to quarantine on the way back too. I overlooked it, where did you find this inforation?

 

The one to be isolated is prayut ! but not for 14 days

[mike1967]

7 hours ago, NoComment said:

1,014 cases in Britain, yet Portugal has just welcomed them back with open arms.

Social distancing? Non Existent!!!

Ok, the Brits are supposed to self quarantine for 14 day!? It doesn't happen now so they won't bother on their return.

USA still has nothing under control.

New Zealand and The Kingdom have the correct idea.

The Kingdom will survive without the tourists.

Keep up the good work.

3,000 on ventilators down to just 72 in England. Infection statistics may be up but there's several reasons for that. Hospital admissions have been and are still falling, as is the death rate. The Thai economy is in free fall let alone the protests in Bangkok. The easy part is closing the borders. The hard part is coping with the virus on a daily basis both for the economy and the well being of the Thai people. People are starving and the food handouts are drying up. The Thai people are getting tired of the authorities, despite what you think you might know. Things in Thailand will only get worse, let alone survive......Just wait for next year. "Keep up the good work", what good work? I'm quite happy not to return until next year when, hopefully, the baht will have returned to its correct value. Thai reserves will only last so long. What's ya plan Thailand?

Edited August 24, 2020 by mike1967
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[connda]

3 hours ago, DrTuner said:

Instead of GPS bracelets for tourists, I'd like to propose explosive collars for the ministers. Every time they let out such extreme stupidity it should trigger. We should be out of idiotic ministers by the end of the year.

Ala The Running Man.

[Kadilo]

3 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

Well it wont tempt me but maybe a couple of thousand might be game.

Drop in the ocean though really , not going to save many tourist jobs .

Some of the desperados will pay anything to get reunited with their families and that’s about all that will come. 

[Miss Pickle]

That crazy idea I’d never going to work back to the drawing board.I own a condo why would I want to live in A hotel for 2 weeks when I can be locked away in my own place.

[kingdong]

16 hours ago, Dan O said:

I think there are quite a few "tourists" that would come given the chance to if borders were opened to allow it. Many tourist come for longer than 2 weeks. I certainly would. The cost of the ASQ hotels are not all in the same 100k range and if more tourist could come then more hotels would participate in the program to generate income. 

pay to come to a country and put up with that load of old b*******you,re having a laugh.

[Pattaya46]

25 minutes ago, Miss Pickle said:

That crazy idea I’d never going to work back to the drawing board.

I own a condo why would I want to live in A hotel for 2 weeks when I can be locked away in my own place ?

Because experience proved, in many countries, that we can't trust citizen to respect the confinement in their own home...

[Jumbo1968]

In some respect I hope only a few hundred take up the latest ‘offer’, if thousands do none of the current restrictions will be removed.
I am currently stuck in the U.K. with my partner and son the cost (which is well beyond my means ) plus all the hassle Makes impossible to return.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

“Thailand has a limited budget so we have to make sure we can control the disease well.”

 

ya right.... Limited funds to spend on public health measures... because...

 

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The submarine would be delivered in six years, its cost of 22.50 billion baht 

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 hours ago, Don Chance said:

Ivermectin triple therapy, everyone take the drugs as prophylactics.

 

“Triple therapy specialist Professor Thomas Borody, famous for curing peptic ulcers using a triple antibiotic therapy saving millions of lives, today released the COVID-19 treatment protocol to Australian GPs, who can legally prescribe it to their COVID-19 positive patients. They can also prescribe it as a preventative medication. Borody says this could be the fastest and safest way to end the pandemic in Australia within 6-8 weeks.”

 

“There is mounting worldwide clinical literature pointing to a 100% cure rate using Ivermectin Triple Therapy,” said Professor Borody.

 

 

Another unproven touted CV cure being wrongfully promoted:

 

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FDA Letter to Stakeholders: Do Not Use Ivermectin Intended for Animals as Treatment for COVID-19 in Humans

April 10, 2020

Dear Stakeholder,

The FDA’s Center for Veterinary Medicine has recently become aware of increased public visibility of the antiparasitic drug ivermectin after the announcement of a research article that described the effect of ivermectin on SARS-CoV-2 in a laboratory setting. The Antiviral Research pre-publication paper, “The FDA-approved drug ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitroExternal Link Disclaimer,”  documents how SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) responded to ivermectin when exposed in a petri dish. This type of study is commonly used in the early stages of drug development. Ivermectin was not given to people or animals in this study. Additional testing is needed to determine whether ivermectin might be safe or effective to prevent or treat coronavirus or COVID-19.

...

FDA is concerned about the health of consumers who may self-medicate by taking ivermectin products intended for animals, thinking they can be a substitute for ivermectin intended for humans. People should never take animal drugs, as the FDA has only evaluated their safety and effectiveness in the particular animal species for which they are labeled. These animal drugs can cause serious harm in people. People should not take any form of ivermectin unless it has been prescribed to them by a licensed health care provider and is obtained through a legitimate source.

 

 

https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/product-safety-information/fda-letter-stakeholders-do-not-use-ivermectin-intended-animals-treatment-covid-19-humans

 

[Alex2554]

They act like a besieged terrorist who releases one of the hostages in exchange for food but refuses to surrender

[Mark Nothing]

Thailand has no intention of opening its borders.  This hollow, insincere proposal speaks volumes.  Your freedom to travel has been eliminated.

[shdmn]

19 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

OK, maybe I'm missing the point here, but what is the difference between someone coming from a high infection country and isolating and someone coming from a limited infections country and doing the same ? 

 

Either way , no tourist in their right mind is going to spend 14 days in thai quarantine , take 2 weeks on a beach and then isolate for 14 days in return.

 

These officials truly must be the most idiotic and unrealistic people of the face of the entire planet

They are just completely out of ideas at this point and need to look like they are trying to do something.

 

Seriously, the best thing you could probably do at this point is force people to use hand sanitizer when entering and leaving public places.  That will probably do more to slow the spread than all these other silly ideas.

 

I could even live with the GPS tracker as big brother and silly as that is, but the 14 day quarantine is a complete deal breaker for most if not all tourists.  Certainly is for me.

Edited August 24, 2020 by shdmn

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

13 hours ago, farangroby said:

This is the fantastic gourmet food dispensed in a government quarantine facility at the price of 33,000 thb: note the fine Limoge porcelain, the perfect setting of the food inside the plate and the care for the decorations but even the crystal glasses

 

That looks pretty much like a Thai Air domestic flight lunch box, just packaged in a different container.... Maybe Thai is unloading some of their spare food service meals.