1 minute ago, Sujo said:

Then he is lying when he says to vote for him because he can fix it.

 

So vote for the Democrat, because hell be different from the other democrats in their response to chaos. 

 

Is that right? 

 

Or are you saying that the chaos is being allowed to happen because Trump, and if the Democrat gets elected, the other democrats will all of a sudden do what's needed to be done to ensure public safety. 

15 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

OMG sat in the front row of Trump rally, he must be guilty of something. ahahahaa

 

 

Well, apart from his penchant for murdering people, the Trump rally part is certainly a clear sign of mental delusion and instability.

 

He would have been better served to stay home, eat popcorn and watch reruns of Charles Bronson movies while cleaning his rifle.

 

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Ever think they were defending themselves when a nutter wanders around brandishing a long gun.

 

Right, just peaceful protesters walking around doing nothing, not starting fires, burning and destroying cars, assaulting people, throwing molotovs... 

4 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Ever think they were defending themselves when a nutter wanders around brandishing a long gun.

Prove it, show evidence of what you say. Or perhaps you're selling wolf tickets.

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Well, apart from his penchant for murdering people, the Trump rally part is certainly a clear sign of mental delusion and instability.

 

He would have been better served to stay home, eat popcorn and watch reruns of Charles Bronson movies while cleaning his rifle.

 

Clearly a troll post, mods please.

15 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Any comment on the people trying to kill the kid too, or is that violence different ahahahah

You mean trying to guess what could have happened instead of focusing on the killings that actually happened? 

Yeah, that makes sense!

Edited August 27, 20205 yr by Phoenix Rising

11 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Right, just peaceful protesters walking around doing nothing, not starting fires, burning and destroying cars, assaulting people, throwing molotovs... 

The guy should not have been there. There is a curfew. There are police there, they ignored him and drove past him.

 

Ignore the shooter and go look for a black guy doing something.

Just now, Phoenix Rising said:

You mean trying to guess what could have happened instead of focusing on the killings that actually happened? 

 

Nobody would have been killed and none of this would have happened if a violent mob didn't go after another human being after destroying cars, starting fires, and assaulting people. 

 

Furthermore, it would have never gotten this far out of control if the Governor had given the police force the support they requested from the national guard and federal police. 

 

And finally, it really wouldn't have gotten this far into chaos if a certain left-wing political party took this stuff seriously at the beginning, several riots ago, and did what was necessary to ensure public safety while the details of these police shootings are investigated. 

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

The guy should not have been there. There is a curfew. There are police there, they ignored him and drove past him.

 

Theres hordes of armed people there, not just the kid, or "the rightwing" and in no uncertain terms did he deserve to be assaulted, beaten, skateboarded, molotov'd, or anything else no matter if he should have been there or not or if there was a curfew or not, and he had every right to defend himself. 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Theres hordes of armed people there, not just the kid, or "the rightwing" and in no uncertain terms did he deserve to be assaulted, beaten, skateboarded, molotov'd, or anything else no matter if he should have been there or not or if there was a curfew or not, and he had every right to defend himself. 

 

 

He broke the law by being there. Thought you were a law and order guy.

 

Im very sure there are white guys protesting and not being assaulted. Why was this guy different. So different that police ignored him.

15 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Nobody would have been killed and none of this would have happened if a violent mob didn't go after another human being after destroying cars, starting fires, and assaulting people. 

 

 

And none of that would have happened if not for...

 

Quote

 

Wisconsin police shoot a Black man as his children watch from a vehicle, attorney says

Two Wisconsin police officers are on leave Monday as state authorities investigate why a Black man was shot multiple times in the back as he entered the driver's side door of an SUV, officials said.

 

The man's three children -- 3, 5 and 8 -- were in the car, a family attorney said.

 

Identified by the governor as Jacob Blake, the man is in stable condition in an intensive care unit, according to attorney Ben Crump, who represents the Blake family. 

 

 

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/24/us/kenosha-police-shooting-jacob-blake/index.html

 

Let's look at the root of the problem here... 

Edited August 27, 20205 yr by TallGuyJohninBKK

8 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Nobody would have been killed and none of this would have happened if a violent mob didn't go after another human being after destroying cars, starting fires, and assaulting people. 

 

Furthermore, it would have never gotten this far out of control if the Governor had given the police force the support they requested from the national guard and federal police. 

 

And finally, it really wouldn't have gotten this far into chaos if a certain left-wing political party took this stuff seriously at the beginning, several riots ago, and did what was necessary to ensure public safety while the details of these police shootings are investigated. 

None of this would be happening if trump didnt stoke the fire.

 

Any tweet yet from the president about this guy breaking curfew and shooting people then police ignoring him?

 

If he was black those twitter fingers would be on warp speed.

Just now, Sujo said:

He broke the law by being there. Thought you were a law and order guy.

 

Right, so he deserved what he got? Is that what you're saying? He carries all the blame because he, like hundreds of others, went armed to an illegal riot and therefore lost his right of self defense. 

11 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Nobody would have been killed and none of this would have happened if a violent mob didn't go after another human being after destroying cars, starting fires, and assaulting people. 

 

Furthermore, it would have never gotten this far out of control if the Governor had given the police force the support they requested from the national guard and federal police. 

 

And finally, it really wouldn't have gotten this far into chaos if a certain left-wing political party took this stuff seriously at the beginning, several riots ago, and did what was necessary to ensure public safety while the details of these police shootings are investigated. 

I agree that trump is not taking it seriously and has done nothing.

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

None of this would be happening if trump didnt stoke the fire.

 

Exactly what, did Trump do, in any way, to have any influence at all, on the death of Jacob Blake and the riots the ensued after. 

35 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

These shootings happened in Democrat controlled cities, and Democrat mayors and governors either refuse federal help or hamstring their police force in response or both. 

 

In no way can any of chaos thats been happening over the last few months be attributed to anything Donald Trump has done. 

Disagree with you on that.

 

But your post does raise the question, if Trump can fix it, as he claims, why can he only fix it after the election, not now?

The 17-year-old didn't live there where his shootings occurred. He wasn't defending his or his family's home or business.   Just like the McCloskeys, he armed himself as a vigilante and tried to take justice into his own hands.  That's the job for the police and other law enforcement, not rifle-wielding teenagers and nut-job attorneys who end up creating incidents that wouldn't have otherwise occurred.

 

Edited August 27, 20205 yr by TallGuyJohninBKK

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Disagree with you on that.

 

But your post does raise the question, if Trump can fix it, as he claims, why can he only fix it after the election, not now?

 

The reverse is also true. 

 

Democrat management has continually shown to be woefully inept, either intentionally or unintentionally, or both, at managing this crisis and chaos. They flat-out refuse the advise of their own police force, they dont protect their cities, and do not want and/or pontificate about federal help. 

 

So, if the democrat is elected - Are they gonna all of a sudden take federal help and do what it takes to ensure public safety - thereby admitting they are allowing all this to happen over pure politics and the election?

23 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Nobody would have been killed and none of this would have happened if a violent mob didn't go after another human being after destroying cars, starting fires, and assaulting people. 

 

Furthermore, it would have never gotten this far out of control if the Governor had given the police force the support they requested from the national guard and federal police. 

 

And finally, it really wouldn't have gotten this far into chaos if a certain left-wing political party took this stuff seriously at the beginning, several riots ago, and did what was necessary to ensure public safety while the details of these police shootings are investigated. 

The people who died would still be alive if not for a 17 old idiot running around with an assault rifle.

End of.

3 hours ago, The Barmbeker said:

A WHITE SUPREMACIST (17 yeras old) killed 2 protesters and injured 2 more ( as far as I know now!).

Come on, usual suspects: you cry over looted property, when it comes to "protesters"- where is your outrage now?

as I said, these actions and reactions are inevitable. You reap what you sow. 

Just now, Phoenix Rising said:

The people who died would still be alive if not for a 17 old idiot running around with an assault rifle.

End of.

 

Nope, not the end of anything, no matter how much you want it to be, because he was defending himself and everyone has a right to do that, no matter the circumstance. 

3 hours ago, riclag said:

I don't know if your familiar with my countries law of the land?

Only through peaceful assembly are we to protest! What your suggesting , violence to achieve a goal is akin to mob rule! imop Sad!

 

 The First Amendment to the United States Constitution states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress"

 https://www.learningtogive.org/resources/right-assemble#:~:text=The First Amendment to the,the government for a redress

I must have missed the amendment that says you can shoot someone in the back 7 times when they are unarmed.  As I have written many times on this post, your country will reap what it sows.  Good luck, you will need it. 

Just now, Pilotman said:

I must have missed the amendment that says you can shoot someone in the back 7 times when they are unarmed.  As I have written many times on this post, your country will reap what it sows.  Good luck, you will need it. 

 

He had a knife, he told police he had a knife, the police also found a knife in the floorboard of his car, where he was reaching when he was shot, and this was after fighting with the police and being tased. 

7 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Nope, not the end of anything, no matter how much you want it to be, because he was defending himself and everyone has a right to do that, no matter the circumstance. 

If he wasnt breaking the law he would not have to defend himself.

 

He had no reason to be there, he wasnt part of the protest. He was just looking for trouble. Now hes in a heap of it.

 

Where is trumps twitter

1 hour ago, Sujo said:

Could have done what they did to the white guy carrying a long gun after shooting two people.

 

just drive past him, let him get into his car and head on home.

 

not racist at all.

The Police just stay in their Police stations and just let everyone do what they want out on the streets.

May as well not even have a Police force 

8 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

He had a knife, he told police he had a knife, the police also found a knife in the floorboard of his car, where he was reaching when he was shot, and this was after fighting with the police and being tased. 

He didnt have a knife. It was in the car, and 3 officers could not stop him going to the car after he told them he had one there.

 

Incompetence.

 

If he was white with a gun and shot a couple of people police would have allowed him to.go home for supper.

Edited August 27, 20205 yr by Sujo

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

He didnt have a knife. It was in the car, and 3 officers could not stop him going to the car after he told them he had one there.

 

Incompetence.

 

If he was white with a gun and shot a couple of people police would have allowed him to.go home for supper.

We are talking about THIS particular case , what would have happened if he was White would be mere speculation and hypothetical .

   The guy should have done what he was instructed to do , or just stand there and let the Police carry out their duty 

16 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Nope, not the end of anything, no matter how much you want it to be, because he was defending himself and everyone has a right to do that, no matter the circumstance. 

Doesn't matter at all what you think he had the right to do. The courts will decide and I hereby predict that he will serve hard time.

4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

We are talking about THIS particular case , what would have happened if he was White would be mere speculation and hypothetical .

   The guy should have done what he was instructed to do , or just stand there and let the Police carry out their duty 

The difference is how the police acted when one is black and one is white.

 

The white guy had to beg to hand himself in. The black guy shot 7 times in the back.

1 minute ago, Sujo said:

The difference is how the police acted when one is black and one is white.

 

The white guy had to beg to hand himself in. The black guy shot 7 times in the back.

Two different situations, lets stick to this situation