France's COVID-19 cases and casualties rise

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France's COVID-19 cases and casualties rise

 

People wearing protective masks walk in a street in Nantes as France reinforces mask-wearing as part of efforts to curb a resurgence of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) across the country, France, August 24, 2020. REUTERS/Stephane Mahe

 

PARIS (Reuters) - The number of new, confirmed cases of COVID-19 in France has risen by 1,955 compared to the previous day, the French health ministry said on Monday, although the increase in new cases was less than in previous days.

 

The French health ministry said the number of deaths from COVID-19 had risen by 15 from the previous day to stand at 30,528 casualties, while the total number of confirmed COVID-19 cases stands at 244,854.

 

France has the seventh-highest COVID-19 death toll in the world, and the government is monitoring the figures closely to see if any new restrictions or lockdowns are needed to curb the spread of the virus.

 

"The circulation of the virus is progressing markedly, and is at its most intense among young adults," the ministry said in a statement.

 

The number of new cases was less than the 4,897 new cases registered on Aug. 23, although 22 new clusters had been discovered in the last 24 hours, added the ministry.

 

(Reporting by Sudip Kar-Gupta; Editing by Chris Reese and Chizu Nomiyama)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-08-25

 

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[Boomer6969]

Situation caused mostly by young idiots who party without observing any social distancing nor wearing masks. It will backfire on them when more lose their jobs as a result of the forthcoming lockout.

[bkk6060]

How terrible hope they get things under control.

At least their chocolate croissants are good.

[steelepulse]

A french professor of medicine gets to the bottom of things on a news segment. It seems he's not going along with the fear being pushed.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ulA8u05Z-Q

 

[Boomer6969]

33 minutes ago, steelepulse said:

A french professor of medicine gets to the bottom of things on a news segment. It seems he's not going along with the fear being pushed.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ulA8u05Z-Q

 

Is he an authority on Epidemiology? As far as I know he is teaching Physiology. 

[Peter Denis]

1 hour ago, steelepulse said:

A french professor of medicine gets to the bottom of things on a news segment. It seems he's not going along with the fear being pushed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ulA8u05Z-Q

 

45 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said:

Is he an authority on Epidemiology? As far as I know he is teaching Physiology. 

Did you actually watch the video? 

He is 'only' stating what is obvious from the figures, but at least it's a positive signal that reputed doctors and scientists now dare to say it like it is.  Covid-19 is as good as over and done with.

But somehow this Good News is considered dangerous by those that advocated and imposed panic-measures and which are now struggling to rationalize and defend the havoc they created by selling the new fable of a 2nd wave that will be coming if we don't continue living in fear.

[Boomer6969]

14 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

He is 'only' stating what is obvious from the figures

Yes the figures show that there are many infections and few bad cases ands deaths.

But he deliberately omits to mention that hospital admissions and deaths lag 2 to 4 weeks behind infections. And, more importantly that currently infections are mainly of young people partying while on holidays. This population, who is mostly of asymptomatic healthy carriers will soon go back to work and infect people who are more at risk of dying from Covid.

Epidemiologists have zero evidence that the virus is less potent at this stage, and why on earth would they lie? Let's not be ridiculous.

[steelepulse]

1 minute ago, Boomer6969 said:

Yes the figures show that there are many infections and few bad cases ands deaths.

But he deliberately omits to mention that hospital admissions and deaths lag 2 to 4 weeks behind infections. And, more importantly that currently infections are mainly of young people partying while on holidays. This population, who is mostly of asymptomatic healthy carriers will soon go back to work and infect people who are more at risk of dying from Covid.

Epidemiologists have zero evidence that the virus is less potent at this stage, and why on earth would they lie? Let's not be ridiculous.

I guess you didn't see the curve showing deaths across various countries, and all of Europe.  if you did, then seeing as deaths are 99% lower than in April might have given a clue as to where this is all going.  But no, for some reason the narrative has shifted to new cases to keep the fear narrative alive and well, and the populace under control.

[Boomer6969]

2 hours ago, steelepulse said:

I guess you didn't see the curve showing deaths across various countries, and all of Europe.  if you did, then seeing as deaths are 99% lower than in April might have given a clue as to where this is all going.  But no, for some reason the narrative has shifted to new cases to keep the fear narrative alive and well, and the populace under control.

Being assertive as you are on the base of a few Youtube videos is rather adventurous; while the real experts are a lot more cautious and humble. Most of them agree there is no certainty yet but, that if no conservative measure were taken, in September/October we could be back to the March/April situation. The risk is even higher as the cold/flu season will then start making things even more complex. In the face of this Pandemic I don't see any government asking too much from their people, quite the opposite. There are a few leading nations that are appallingly reckless, an so far, based on results, one can only praise Thailand. If the optimists (or those who have vested interests) were right it would be only two or three  more months before most restrictions could be lifted, but in the meantime until things become clearer we have to accept closed borders and wear masks or stay home.

[3NUMBAS]

the tour de france bike race is due to start later this week then you will see some big rises in cases with all the crowds along the route and none distancing and no mask on

[vermin on arrival]

49 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

the tour de france bike race is due to start later this week then you will see some big rises in cases with all the crowds along the route and none distancing and no mask on

I'm sure there will be cases, the issue will be how many serious ones and how many deaths. Currently only 1% of global cases are considered serious.

[vermin on arrival]

Interesting it seems like the spread in the US is going down as it has run its course in new states; I wonder if the first wave in the US is finally on it's way out or will new states be hit. The predicted 100,000 daily cases is not happening.

[steelepulse]

4 hours ago, Boomer6969 said:

Being assertive as you are on the base of a few Youtube videos is rather adventurous; while the real experts are a lot more cautious and humble. Most of them agree there is no certainty yet but, that if no conservative measure were taken, in September/October we could be back to the March/April situation. The risk is even higher as the cold/flu season will then start making things even more complex. In the face of this Pandemic I don't see any government asking too much from their people, quite the opposite. There are a few leading nations that are appallingly reckless, an so far, based on results, one can only praise Thailand. If the optimists (or those who have vested interests) were right it would be only two or three  more months before most restrictions could be lifted, but in the meantime until things become clearer we have to accept closed borders and wear masks or stay home.

I could show you 100 doctors that all agree with what these doctors in the videos show.  There is a mountain of evidence out there showing that deaths from covid over the last 3 months are way down, and in many countries, deaths are now below the normal numbers for the past few months.  Why is that?  It's not due to draconian lockdowns, it's due to the frail and weak with multiple comorbidities succumbing to the virus back in March and April.  Not hard to figure this out as the average age of people "dying of covid" were actually older than normal mortality rates in many countries.

Edited August 25, 2020 by steelepulse

[roquefort]

7 hours ago, Boomer6969 said:

Being assertive as you are on the base of a few Youtube videos is rather adventurous; while the real experts are a lot more cautious and humble. Most of them agree there is no certainty yet but, that if no conservative measure were taken, in September/October we could be back to the March/April situation. The risk is even higher as the cold/flu season will then start making things even more complex. In the face of this Pandemic I don't see any government asking too much from their people, quite the opposite. There are a few leading nations that are appallingly reckless, an so far, based on results, one can only praise Thailand. If the optimists (or those who have vested interests) were right it would be only two or three  more months before most restrictions could be lifted, but in the meantime until things become clearer we have to accept closed borders and wear masks or stay home.

Do "those who have vested interests" include all those who are desperately trying to survive having lost their jobs or trying to save their businesses from going under? How long do you propose to continue keeping the world in suspended animation? What if there is no viable vaccine or treatment?

More people are dying already from lockdown-related causes in some countries than from Covid. There is a balance which has to be struck and zero-tolerance is not an option. This virus is going to be with us for a very long time.

Edited August 25, 2020 by roquefort
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[Scott]

Off-topic posts and videos removed.  This is about France.  

 

[vermin on arrival]

40 minutes ago, Scott said:

Off-topic posts and videos removed.  This is about France.  

 

Ok apologies

[NeoDinosaw]

15 hours ago, Boomer6969 said:

Is he an authority on Epidemiology? As far as I know he is teaching Physiology. 

it's an .....ology     isn't that enough ?