10 hours ago, MajarTheLion said:

Yes, I saw that. Didn't look good. However, I would dispute your description of events. "All those"? How many were there? "Ships"? First, let's look at the definition of "ship", keeping in mind the parade was on a lake:

 

• n.
  A vessel of considerable size for deep-water navigation.
• n.
  A sailing vessel having three or more square-rigged masts

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt&q=definition+of+ship&atb=v226-1&ia=definition

 

I don't see how any of the vessels in question could be described as "ships". Furthermore, there are a few other matters of relevance. First, there's the number of boat parades versus the number of boats damaged or sunk. Given one parade alone had over 3,000 boats show up, the proportion is very small. Then there is the fact that there are no boat parades at all for Joe Biden (that I've heard of, feel free to enlighten me if I have missed anything). This is in perfect alignment with the statistical enthusiasm gap Biden suffers from. So in the end, a few damaged and/or sunk boats means little to nothing.

 

Let the nitpicking begin.....

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

Let the nitpicking begin.....

In response to blatant and intentional embellishment for obvious self serving reasons.

 

"Just the facts ma'am"

Dragnet Joe Friday ~1950/60's

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On 9/14/2020 at 6:36 AM, Matzzon said:

Sorry, but you know? This is historical. Never have so much money been spent to get rid of one man. Never have so many different enemies in an US election found such strong common ground. The need to get rid of one man. That should tell you something. Your idol is fading, and will soon be out of the picture.

Has it ever occurred to you why so many self interest groups are spending so much money to remove a non politician from the white House. 

Please don't come back with because he's a waycist, xenophobic, misogynistic, lying, sexist, pussy grabbing, veteran hating incompetent. 

Not only is it complete rubbish, it is also boring and unoriginal. 

5 minutes ago, Smigel said:

Has it ever occurred to you why so many self interest groups are spending so much money to remove a non politician from the white House. 

Please don't come back with because he's a waycist, xenophobic, misogynistic, lying, sexist, pussy grabbing, veteran hating incompetent. 

Not only is it complete rubbish, it is also boring and unoriginal. 

The answer is simple. The guy can never admit that he is wrong, even if someone holds the evidence in his face.

 

He is also a danger to the agreements and the statibility in a quite fragile world.

Edited September 15, 20205 yr by Matzzon

18 hours ago, Redline said:

Fortunately, Biden isn’t a pathological lier 

Really,? try doing some research, there are plenty of examples. 

On 9/14/2020 at 1:18 PM, candide said:

Which is exactly what you are doing (repeating it over and over again to make it truth).

You will not find any quote from Pelosi or Biden mentioning the CHINA travel ban, nor saying that the WHO showed no evidence etc....

BTW are you aware that it's Trump who downplayed the epidemic, stating that Dems were creating panic?

I beg to differ, both Biden and Pelosi labelled Trumps ban on travel from China and slightly later the EU, xenophobic. 

Pelosi openly encouraged travel to Chinatown, proclaiming it perfectly safe to do so. 

Why are you openly lying.? 

19 minutes ago, Smigel said:

I beg to differ, both Biden and Pelosi labelled Trumps ban on travel from China and slightly later the EU, xenophobic. 

Pelosi openly encouraged travel to Chinatown, proclaiming it perfectly safe to do so. 

Why are you openly lying.? 

Your claim is not backed by anything. Show us a quote by Biden and Pelosi mentioning the CHINA travel ban. There is none. Good luck if you want to try.

(The reason I write CHINA is because they did call him racist or xenophobic several times about immigration issues, I.e. the so-called Muslim bans -the latest was announced on Jan.31)

 

As to Pelosi going to Chinatown, as I wrote before, it was not to protest against Trumps decision, it was, as you yourself state, to show it was safe to do so. As you know, in Chinatown, most inhabitants are US citizen, and voters too. People were afraid to go there, shops and restaurants were empty. Nothing surprising for a political figure to try to help her electorate.

 

Who's lying? Trump, by claiming he courageously made his decision among widespread opposition. There was no particular opposition to it and plenty of other countries made the same decision at the same time or even before.

59 minutes ago, Smigel said:

I beg to differ, both Biden and Pelosi labelled Trumps ban on travel from China and slightly later the EU, xenophobic. 

<snip>

Simply not true. 

2 hours ago, Smigel said:

Has it ever occurred to you why so many self interest groups are spending so much money to remove a non politician from the white House. 

Please don't come back with because he's a waycist, xenophobic, misogynistic, lying, sexist, pussy grabbing, veteran hating incompetent. 

Not only is it complete rubbish, it is also boring and unoriginal. 

 

What "non politician" are you on about? Still trying to market Trump as such?

That you cannot acknowledge, accept or stand any criticism of Trump is not a good enough reason to ignore his character and actions.

5 hours ago, Smigel said:

Has it ever occurred to you why so many self interest groups are spending so much money to remove a non politician from the white House. 

Please don't come back with because he's a waycist, xenophobic, misogynistic, lying, sexist, pussy grabbing, veteran hating incompetent. 

Not only is it complete rubbish, it is also boring and unoriginal. 

Trump’s Cabinet Has Had More Ex-Lobbyists Than Obama or Bush

 

In less than three years, President Donald Trump has named more former lobbyists to Cabinet-level posts than his most recent predecessors did in eight, putting a substantial amount of oversight in the hands of people with ties to the industries they're regulating.

The Cabinet choices are another sign that Trump's populist pledge to "drain the swamp" is a catchy campaign slogan but not a serious attempt to change the way Washington works. Instead of staring down "the unholy alliance of lobbyists and donors and special interests" as Trump recently declared, the influence industry has flourished during his administration.

https://fortune.com/2019/09/17/donald-trump-cabinet-lobbyists/

10 hours ago, Matzzon said:

The answer is simple. The guy can never admit that he is wrong, even if someone holds the evidence in his face.

 

He is also a danger to the agreements and the statibility in a quite fragile world.

The ink wasn't dry on hew NAFTA and he  hit Canada with more aluminum tariffs. Sometime today a  vulnerable American industry will get whacked  back 

On 9/14/2020 at 5:38 AM, Sujo said:

I have no issue with more people given more access to vote. Especially during the virus.

 

Apparently some just want to make it harder to vote.

Some just want to make it easier to cheat.

On 9/14/2020 at 11:01 PM, MajarTheLion said:

Opinions vary. Here is one that lays out an alternate opinion and examples as to why:

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/499065-lies-damned-lies-and-the-truth-about-joe-biden

 

More recently, Joe Biden was caught lying about his position on banning fracking:

 

https://www.wibc.com/blogs/tony-katz/busted-biden-caught-on-tape-lying-about-fracking-ban/

You know what I mean

These are all public knowledge 

 

12 hours ago, Smigel said:

Really,? try doing some research, there are plenty of examples. 

Look up pathological 

" if the campaign took place only on the web, the three scientists from Neuchâtel and Bern would predict another victory for Donald Trump. “Repeating a message, even false or misleading, achieves the intended objective,” 

https://www.web24.news/u/2020/09/donald-trump-the-winner-according-to-two-universities-that-had-already-predicted-his-victory-in-2016.html

Edited September 17, 20205 yr by Opl