FarFlungFalang Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 12 hours ago, polpott said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugly_American_(pejorative) "Ugly American" is a stereotype depicting American citizens as exhibiting loud, arrogant, demeaning, thoughtless, ignorant, and ethnocentric behavior mainly abroad, but also at home. The term was used as the title of a 1948 photograph of an American tourist in Havana by the Cuban photographer Constantino Arias By no means does this apply to all Americans but the guy in the OP does seem to fit the bill. We've all met 'em. We also have met the Ugly Aussies the ugly Poms the ugly Europeans and the rest maybe they're just ugly people from anywhere.Maybe the are just normal people that occasionally behave in an ugly way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 9 hours ago, oldhippy said: If Tripadvisor were not such a shoddy low cost profit maximising website, they would hire moderators, and all this would not have happened. Im not sure about T/A but Airbnb do have moderators and case managers dealing with the reviews I've spoken to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HampiK Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Yes there were now many articles in foreign newspaper. But even this will not change a lot. Be honest you remember about the foreigner a few years ago who was going into prison in Chiang Mai for <deleted> on a picture of the King? In a few months nobody will talk about this case anymore. And this keyboard warriors who give a bad rating without even be there are the best example, why it should not be allowed to give ratings without knowledge. Something else I read some of the comments in 2-3 newspapers (online) and I saw a lot of people who think it's OK to arrest him (I think it's a little to harsh). But let's face at the give time more and more people are unhappy with the "trolls" in the Internet who think they can write bad about anything without need to fear something will happen to them. Who knows maybe in future something similar will also be more accepted in the so called first world countries. Many people write to kill somebody or to rape somebody because they heard a story or not like something. Most of this Keyboard warrirors wouldn't be like that in real life, but because it's Internet and they think you can't find out it's them.. they do it.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: We also have met the Ugly Aussies the ugly Poms the ugly Europeans and the rest maybe they're just ugly people from anywhere.Maybe the are just normal people that occasionally behave in an ugly way. Never seen any of the other nationalitys you mention wearing Stetsons with an obscenely phallic cigar stuck in their mouths. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagged Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, polpott said: Never seen any of the other nationalitys you mention wearing Stetsons with an obscenely phallic cigar stuck in their mouths. Wannabees ugly americans can be from any country mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Tagged said: Wannabees ugly americans can be from any country mentioned But the majority are from the US....IME. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagged Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, polpott said: But the majority are from the US....IME. Ugly american is racist, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventenio Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tagged said: Ugly american is racist, This is just as BAD. You are promoting hatred of a group of people. You are using bad stereotypes. You should be banned from America. Your hatred is quite possible worse than the American. shame. Do you have kids? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagged Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ventenio said: This is just as BAD. You are promoting hatred of a group of people. You are using bad stereotypes. You should be banned from America. Your hatred is quite possible worse than the American. shame. Do you have kids? I think you misunderstand! The expression "ugly American" is racist! But true, some americans is loud, rude, and so on. Your president is a good proof. It doesnt make any other nationality look better when they act the same way. Edited September 30, 2020 by Tagged 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt1591 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 This thread has become ugly ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 The only mistake the hotel made, was trying to be reasonable and accommodating to the rude, aggressive, arrogant Wesley Barnes …. this idiot is a ‘roll ’n butter’ and has plenty of previous, although he is now trying to embrace the modern orthodoxy of victimhood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: The only mistake the hotel made, was trying to be reasonable and accommodating to the rude, aggressive, arrogant Wesley Barnes …. this idiot is a ‘roll ’n butter’ and has plenty of previous, although he is now trying to embrace the modern orthodoxy of victimhood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Before you post things like this are you sure it's the same guy? I have seen this posted on another forum and if he has plenty of previous as you quoted how would he get work permit? Edited September 30, 2020 by ChipButty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hellohello123 Posted September 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2020 ive just had a thought, there are a lot of people around the world who have read the article in their local news and are threatening to never stay there, which is fair enough, however, there must be a similar number of people who say the hotel was well within their rights etc. so maybe these people once covid restrictions get lifted will be reverse-vigilantes and make an effort to stay there maybe the the hotel will come out with more bookings than without the incident 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, ChipButty said: Before you post things like this are you sure it's the same guy? I have seen this posted on another forum and if he has plenty of previous as you quoted how would he get work permit? That's a fair point, I was assured that it is him, but I will investigate further ..... thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, ChipButty said: Before you post things like this are you sure it's the same guy? I have seen this posted on another forum and if he has plenty of previous as you quoted how would he get work permit? Just found one of the the hotel's communications with him .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: That's a fair point, I was assured that it is him, but I will investigate further ..... thanks To get a work permit he needs a B visa I think im right in saying he has to get a police report, Im not an expert some guys on here will put us right who have more experience than us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said: Just found one of the the hotel's communications with him .... Thats been posted before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, ChipButty said: To get a work permit he needs a B visa I think im right in saying he has to get a police report, Im not an expert some guys on here will put us right who have more experience than us Another good point; however, plenty of people working in Thailand without a work permit, I know two here in Hua Hin. If that is the case, he will have something else to worry about. I guess we won't know for sure unless the Police release a mugshot. I could only find one Wesley G Barnes on Facebook and the profile was sans photograph. (*∆°) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eloquent pilgrim Posted September 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, ChipButty said: Thats been posted before It is one and the same guy for sure. Not only is he teaching in Thailand, although probably not for much longer, but there are lots of people on this forum supporting him for some reason …. this is from the article ****Wesley Gene Barnes is an American citizen who worked as a teacher in Thailand while the world was battling against the new coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic. He made headlines after posting a negative review of a resort in the Southeast Asian country. According to Barnes, he got the teaching job in Thailand on a tourist visa and obtained all of the documents from his school to apply for a Non-Immigrant Visa-B. He said he received a letter from Thailand’s Ministry of Education informing the Thailand Immigration Bureau that he was allowed to apply for a a Non-Immigrant Visa-B in the country due to COVID-19. Barnes was on visa amnesty, his tourist visa expired on May 9, 2020 and his immigration office is in Samutprakarn, Thailand, He was born on May 2, 1983. He is related to Lilian Barnes, Quintin Barnes, Kayla Barnes, Christel Barnes and Montana Barnes. He is 5’11”. He is originally from Pine Bluff, Arkansas, United States. He lived in various parts of Kansas including Lawrence, Olathe and Manhattan. After driving under influence of alcohol or drugs on May 8, 2004, he was jailed in a state prison in Kansas on August 02, 2004. He was discharged on February 3, 2009. On October 17, 2017, he claimed that he was a federal agent while inside Bobby Baker’s Lounge at 7418 Wornall Road in Kansas City, Jackson County, Missouri, USA and showed a witness a handgun. He told the same story at Waldo Bar at 7438 Wornall Road and opened fired after being kicked out from the bar at about 1:00 a.m. on October 18, 2017. He opened fire again at 1:30 a.m. on the same day at the QuikTrip at 10232 Wornall Road. Police traced him through a credit card he used at the bar and on October 19, 2017, Jackson County prosecutor Jean Peters Baker charged him with two counts of unlawful use of a weapon and two counts of armed criminal action **** 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChipButty said: Before you post things like this are you sure it's the same guy? I have seen this posted on another forum and if he has plenty of previous as you quoted how would he get work permit? There are no criminal background checks required for a Non-B visa or work permit IIRC. For English teachers? I don't know. Thais will probably check their own system but they don't have access to foreign Police records. It should be noted that their own system (for locals anyway) is a complete nonsense. What they usually do in other countries is ask for a Police background check prior to issuance of a work visa. You have to produce one from your home country if you are applying for Thai permanent residency. Edited September 30, 2020 by Mr Meeseeks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Ventenio said: You should be banned from America. I already am. 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) For those that are following this, interesting report this morning from the BP or from Richard Barrow's tweets Edited September 30, 2020 by anchadian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganesh108 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 hours ago, pegman said: 100,000? Do you really think the Chinese or other Asians care that an American felon got locked up. Amused maybe but surely not concerned. Same goes for single males from anywhere. Read the readers' comments in the New York Times. 100,000 out of a former 40 million is 0.25%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Tagged said: Ugly american is racist, American is not a race. I believe that the US is a conglomerate of a number of races. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagged Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, polpott said: American is not a race. I believe that the US is a conglomerate of a number of races. True, but still we are all african, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, polpott said: American is not a race. I believe that the US is a conglomerate of a number of races. Ethnic migrants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Tagged said: True, but still we are all african, right? Not me. I'm white Anglo Saxon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagged Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, polpott said: Not me. I'm white Anglo Saxon. Good, thought you where cambodian Poolpot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boomer6969 Posted September 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2020 This story has been quite enlightening, and as far as I am concerned: I will never stay again at the Seaview resort. I have stayed there early July and left with mixed feelings anyway. I will never post any review, excellent, good, fair or bad on anything in Thailand, while I stay here and these ridiculous libel laws remain in effect. I'd encourage everyone else to do the same. I believe that our countries ' foreign affair web sites should post warnings about the disproportionate risks of having a holiday in Thailand, people must be aware that a minor brain fart me destroy their lives. I am sorry for Wesley Barnes, whatever his background is, his latest brain fart hardly deserves more than a slap on the wrist. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 hours ago, polpott said: Never seen any of the other nationalitys you mention wearing Stetsons with an obscenely phallic cigar stuck in their mouths. I thought the ugly part was that he was wearing togs with a Stetson.An Akubra would have been much more stylish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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