Oh, boy!

 

 

"The World Health Organisation has backflipped on its original COVID-19 stance after calling for world leaders to stop locking down their countries and economies......"

 

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/coronavirus-who-backflips-on-virus-stance-by-condemning-lockdowns/news-story/f2188f2aebff1b7b291b297731c3da74

As your first response, not saying it shouldn't be done: "Dr. David Nabarro from the WHO appealed to world leaders yesterday, telling them to stop “using lockdowns as your primary control method”

WHO truly deserves a gold medal for gymnastics. Probably multiple gold medals.

 

You also have to give them credit for reacting relatively quickly to changing winds of "scientific facts". Maybe gold medals in ice dancing for the amazing pirouettes?

8 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

As your first response, not saying it shouldn't be done: "Dr. David Nabarro from the WHO appealed to world leaders yesterday, telling them to stop “using lockdowns as your primary control method”

The article also says: “The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.”

Can someone tell Boris?

23 minutes ago, JerseytoBKK said:

The article also says: “The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.”

The thing is when you have loads of new hospitalizations, these actions (buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted) are needed.

Can you point to credible sources that show details about these "loads of new hospitalizations"? By details, actual numbers rather than scaremonger claims. We have lots of new cases because testing has ramped up. 

it goes to show that policy makers around the world

lack ability to foresee consequences of their own actions,

which is in juridical terms the definition of clinical insanity.

but at least this shows that some of the snowflakes

can at least comprehend basic statistics half a year later

so at least theres some progress

The authors of this report are News.com, a subsidiary of Newscorp, owned by the Murdochs. Australia's version of Fox News. Take the article with a large pinch of salt.

6 minutes ago, polpott said:

The authors of this report are News.com, a subsidiary of Newscorp, owned by the Murdochs. Australia's version of Fox News. Take the article with a large pinch of salt.

 

The article and the analysis may be at Murdoch's bidding, but the video and the transcript are pretty forceful and unambiguous.

1 hour ago, polpott said:

The authors of this report are News.com, a subsidiary of Newscorp, owned by the Murdochs. Australia's version of Fox News. Take the article with a large pinch of salt.

More like a truckload. Murdoch is well known for his support of Trump and conservative politics generally. His son, James Murdoch, left the company in protest over what he termed the slanting of articles on subjects such as climate change. Rupert Murdoch has been interfering in Australian politics for decades.

Backflipped so many times it generated a fan so big it cooled down Thailand by 5 or 10 degrees... If they backflip a few more times we might be begging for COVID to warm us up!

I don't think WHO has backflipped at all.  In the early part of the pandemic, lockdowns were necessary in some places for a time.  The only way the virus is transmitted is from person-to-person.  The only way to prevent transmission was to keep people apart.  For the most part, that meant lockdowns, especially for places where there is a lot of human interaction, such as the major cities and densely populated areas.   

 

Lockdowns were also necessary to mitigate the enormous strain on the medical systems of most countries.   Lockdown were also meant to give relevant agencies a chance to institute measures to prevent and control the virus.   They cannot be a long term measure.  By April, the WHO had come up with criteria that should be used in lifting lockdowns.   There were 6 measures:

 

1. Disease transmission is under control

2. Health systems are able to "detect, test, isolate and treat every case and trace every contact"

3. Hot spot risks are minimized in vulnerable places, such as nursing homes

4. Schools, workplaces and other essential places have established preventive measures

5. The risk of importing new cases "can be managed"

6. Communities are fully educated, engaged and empowered to live under a new normal

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/04/15/834021103/who-sets-6-conditions-for-ending-a-coronavirus-lockdown

 

A lot of people seem to be suffering under the illusion that once lockdowns ended so did the disease.  

 

 

 

2 hours ago, polpott said:

The authors of this report are News.com, a subsidiary of Newscorp, owned by the Murdochs. Australia's version of Fox News. Take the article with a large pinch of salt.

That's a very simpleminded response. As an adult you should be able to use your own critical faculties to assess the words of a WHO special envoy without worrying about whether they were published by a nasty rightwing broadcaster.

WHO defining lock down would add clarity as there are different interpretations

Here's the source video.  I don't get why all the scaremongers point out where the information came from and then try to discredit it in some way.  That's so weak, it laughable.   

 

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