Leaver Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 It would be embarrassing if after all the protest to open the boarders, no one came. ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TERMINATOR3AB Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 OMG Russia / Europe are you crazy seen the Stats on Virus in these countries China is bad enough but wow so crazy Besides with current domestic problems no tourist in thier right mind will want to chance a visit to Thailand Water now ...then rubber bullets .... then ............. Good Luck Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon1967 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) I think we all agree, the 14 day ASQ is the big burden, along with of course the restriction for entry on general 'tourists" / retirees. The other stuff, CoE, pre-travel insurance and Neg Test and fit to fly, can be overcome, with some limited trouble or inconvenience, not saying it's easy as pie. I work in the GCC, the country I work in has just changed the entry requirements, you only need a Neg test (72 hours before travel). On arrival you self isolate for 2 days, register your location on an App, book a COVID test on-line after registering, go for the test, results back in 24/48 hours, if it's negative, you're released from isolation. The most isolation/quarantine you will do if you're clear of COVID is 4 days, now doesn't that seem like a good idea. I know some will argue that the virus could be in your system and not show until 7-14 days, I'm not a virus specialist so I don't know, however, I think the world has to take a more realistic view on travel and the economy, I'm not saying that comes above health, but it can be done and managed better than it is now. Edited October 17, 2020 by spoon1967 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 5 hours ago, 86Tiger said: The point is you are the exception i.e. "extreme cases" he referenced. To save Thailand tourism there has to be thousands if not tens of thousands arriving in the kingdom every day, 7 days per week, month after month. The bread and butter is the 1 - 2 week tourists in a constant roll over. All persons wanting or able to stay "3 or 4 months of the winter" would not be enough volume to pay electric bill at Suvarnabhumi. Or keep all the airlines flying to Bangkok. Or keep the hotels open. Etc. Etc. Etc. Well, that's never going to happen. The post I referring to said no one would do it, which is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Chivas said: You've answered the question yourself ! Extreme case. Very few regular tourists go for 3-4 months in one hit. Myself and a few friends with similar trip counts of between 150-200 + but none of us go for that in one period of time Cumulatively yes annually, but not single trips I hear you, but short holidays are not on the cards at the moment I'm afraid. There are quite a few you would like to do as I described, but are not allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 7 hours ago, rooster59 said: It was time that he made representations to the government to get them to include Pattaya in plans to receive foreign tourists. It seems people who make representations to the government are met with water canons & get arrested... take an umbrella & your toothbrush. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomauasia Posted October 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2020 7 hours ago, BritManToo said: Tourism leaders have no clue. Talking to themselves. NO farangs are coming under the rip off quarantine setup. Secondly most countries airport not allowing flights. To early and Chinese are useless tourists they are bus tourists and hotel. They dont even come under tourist banner. Tourism will only happen with pre flight testing and again swab on arrival. Self quarantine with NO added rip offs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letseng Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 7 hours ago, BritManToo said: I seriously doubt legit tourists would be prepared to do quarantine. Expats living/working here ...... maybe. People with properties/families ........ maybe. Criminals/illegal workers ......... maybe. 2-3 weeks tourists, not a bloody chance. Plenty "snowbirds" every year. They will do quarantine. Why do you decide for others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusX1 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 6 hours ago, pokerface1 said: Are there any other countries open for Tourism? I know Australia has opened up to allow New Zealand tourists in however its a one way ticket at this stage. No quarantine required . But they will have to quarantine for 2 weeks when they fly back to NZ, so would only interest people desperate to reunite with family members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas J Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Perhaps there are those who are willing to come and endure the 14 day quarantine. I can only think they are for the most part those who own property here in Thailand and wish to stay for months. I can not fathom someone wanting to come on a 30 day holiday and spend the first 14 days of it quarantined in a hotel room. One way or another, without substantial tourist traffic the areas are just kidding themselves that it would make a meaningful impact on the plight of those who depend on tourism for a living. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max69xl Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 8 hours ago, keith101 said: With the baht getting stronger every day why would anybody want to come here as a tourist and lose money and quarantine for fourteen days at their expense . The baht doesn't get stronger every day. What papers do you read? Western currencies goes up and down in reference to the USD, not the baht. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Max69xl Posted October 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2020 47 minutes ago, Letseng said: Plenty "snowbirds" every year. They will do quarantine. Why do you decide for others? You don't seem to understand it's not the quarantine per se that scares people away. It's the total cost for everything to obtain the CoE. If you get below ฿100,000 you're lucky. No "snowbirds" want to start with that cost. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oliver Holzerfilled Posted October 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, lkv said: Putting all things in balance, if I was American and Asia would be too much of a headache, I would "sacrifice" myself to go to Mexico to escape winter, which many are doing anyway. Psychologically well adjusted Canadians and Americans have always gone to Mexico and similar close destinations like Costa Rica for a break from the cold. It's hard core sex addicts and involuntary celibates that subject themselves to 24 to 36 sleepless hours being crammed in a metal tube like sardines and shuffled through connecting airports like penguins. And all that capped off with a wait to catch a bus to complete the pilgrimage to Pattaya. For many in the US its a ~4 hour flight and an hour and a half later they're sitting on a Mexican beach with a drink. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancho Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 They can’t open. Under orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppyone Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 9 hours ago, keith101 said: With the baht getting stronger every day why would anybody want to come here as a tourist and lose money and quarantine for fourteen days at their expense . wrong last 4 months baht has got weaker but not by enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GAZZPA Posted October 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2020 9 hours ago, Brunolem said: Tourists or "tourists"? There is no such thing as a "long term tourist". The Chinese, who are real tourists, spend on average one week in Pattaya or somewhere else. The Russians need more time to launder the suitcases of cash brought with them. Some Europeans, after having secured their unemployment benefits, would rather spend the winter sitting on a bar stool, watching the cars passing by and enjoying their fresh exhaust fumes. Exactly the kind of characters Thailand would be better off without... Pattaya has built itself to attract "choice" tourists, what do you expect. It is a seedy hole of a place and not a place people want to invest their money in visiting for their well earned holiday. It is home to skint retirees, sex tourists and not much else. It has had its day, even after COVID is said and done it is going to take decades of reinvention to bring it up to a tourist destination for people with money to spend. Might sound sad but it is simply the truth, facing reality will be the start to reinventing the city. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Leaver said: It would be embarrassing if after all the protest to open the boarders, no one came. ???? it is exactly what would happen in my view. People are staying local for holidays and weekend breaks, if they are going to travel long haul there are countless choices before Pattaya (unless of course you are a sex tourist who wants to spend their holiday with prostitutes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulikens Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 should have been saying this 3-4 months ago. too little too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 A regular tourist, from any country, cannot afford to sacrifice two weeks of their annual leave on quarantine. Simple as that. There are obviously snowbirds, gap year students, retirees and similar groups who COULD quarantine. A fraction of them also WOULD (and has the money), so the number of people Thailand can "woo" with such an offer is quite limited. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo53 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 11 hours ago, Brunolem said: Tourists or "tourists"? There is no such thing as a "long term tourist". The Chinese, who are real tourists, spend on average one week in Pattaya or somewhere else. The Russians need more time to launder the suitcases of cash brought with them. Some Europeans, after having secured their unemployment benefits, would rather spend the winter sitting on a bar stool, watching the cars passing by and enjoying their fresh exhaust fumes. Exactly the kind of characters Thailand would be better off without... Thats only your opinion, i am sure there are plenty of Thai's that would love to see any type of tourists sitting on bar stools regardless of what fumes they were enjoying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susco Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I just read a post on FB from a bar owner in Pattaya who said there are currently quite some Chinese tourists in Pattaya already. Anyone in Pattaya can confirm? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garbol56 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 12 hours ago, Oldie said: Pattaya with all its nightlife is for sure the best place to allow foreigners from high risk countries to enter... Are you serious, what nightlife? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shdmn Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) They have accurate 20 minute tests now. There may even be accurate 5 minute tests. Test everyone and then let them go on their way. Why are they still clinging to this completely unacceptable quarantine idea? Edited October 17, 2020 by shdmn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sncoem Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 No thank you ! As Thai are quite slow, I am not sure that they really understood how lucky they are to have some of us still here ! Once they will really know and beg for more, maybe tourists could come back ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 15 hours ago, keith101 said: With the baht getting stronger every day why would anybody want to come here as a tourist and lose money and quarantine for fourteen days at their expense . Whats with these never ending Debbie Downer comments one after the other? You can tell these people commenting have never started a business. Here's a tip, open it up and let the people decide if they want to come or not. Being so negative, "oh, they'll never come" is no way to go through life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB58 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 13 hours ago, pokerface1 said: Are there any other countries open for Tourism? I know Australia has opened up to allow New Zealand tourists in however its a one way ticket at this stage. No quarantine required . Yes, several countries have opened up, a few never closed, but no flights means, might as well be closed. With that said restrictions are varied, and most of the time depends upon the country you’re traveling from... In all Thailand is more restrictive than most, but that’s pretty consistent with SE Asia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 14 hours ago, pokerface1 said: Are there any other countries open for Tourism? I know Australia has opened up to allow New Zealand tourists in however its a one way ticket at this stage. No quarantine required . I like this one as its always UPDATED....applies to Yanks but seems is valid for ALL travelers as per covid https://www.traveloffpath.com/countries-that-have-reopened-for-american-tourists/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 13 hours ago, 86Tiger said: Give this man a cookie. Every single one of us will test positive for this virus at some point. It is out in the world and can not be put back in the vial at the lab. Couple posts up notes "...the virus spreading like wildfire in Europe and the US again..." This is because more and more people are going about their normal lives. Though positive tests are increasing deaths are not increasing, hospitals are not over whelmed. We have learned this virus is not a death sentence. It is not going to wipe humanity off the face of the earth. Methods have been developed to successfully treat it. So, hide in the basement for another month or another 5 years. Eventually, we will all be exposed and test positive. Doesn't mean we will all get sick. Life has got to resume or the burden on society will be too great to over come. I have many more links if needed...Doctor..any cookies left? https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/16/pandemic-states-virus-rebound-429753 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 11 hours ago, micmichd said: promise Thai ladies a rose garden perhaps a cactus is a better choice as it seems the river is running dry.......or on the flipside all the thai bargirl tears may fill that river to the max....my dearest teerak...so sad...buffalo velly velly sick..send money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Leaver said: It would be embarrassing if after all the protest to open the boarders, no one came. ???? Ive often heard that walking out of the massage shops! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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