'People must brace for new-normal lifestyle for at least two years before Covid-19 is contained'

[pacovl46]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Lock up everyone for 6 weeks and the virus will go extinct in humans. 

[rabang]

12 minutes ago, smudger1951 said:

Is Dr Poovorawan a government advisor and does he advocate isolating the country from the rest of the world for another 2 years. 

There is no alternative. The governments have painted themselves in to a corner. If you want to maintain a zero covid policy you must remain closed for many years to come.

[Zack61]

What happens to the brown sheep?

[miamiman123]

Thailand is the new normal 

keep those foreigners out 

[Bagwain]

10 minutes ago, Throatwobbler said:

Please tell me your background in medical training? Where you studied? How many years of training you have in dealing with infectious diseases?

 

 

A hell of a lot more than you "know doubt". 12 yrs enough. Grow a brain!

[Enzian]

A favorite meme goes:

Young girl to her mother: Mom, what is normal?

Mother: A setting on the dryer, dear.

I will say I understand those who say that their lives have changed very little. They probably don't pay for a multiple re-entry permit when they renew their non-O. I do however. Until this year I was spending a third of the year in Europe and a month in CA, my nominal "home"-Thailand was a hub. I can't complain; I'm still alive. But if it were possible to relocate to Europe I probably would.

[Venom]

2 hours ago, rabas said:

When you do so, please wear a mask. 

You'll need one for the horrendous air pollution in Thailand if for no other reason. 

[Dene16]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

The Covid-19 pandemic may take about two years to slow down, after a large number of people become infected and become immune to the disease

 

Probably got this assumption from the Spanish flu (another pandemic) which infected a third of the world population in 1918 killing 50-100 million people. Before dying out ( in its original form) roughly after 2 years due to people getting an immunity to it. It continued to mutate, going through different mammals and apparently is still with us today all be it, not in its deadliest form

[NCC1701A]

the pandemic will be over on November 3.

[AbeNormal]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

People must brace for new-normal

There is nothing normal about it

[suzannegoh]

2 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

 

 

3 hours ago, simon43 said:

"New normal lifestyle"?  I'm intrigued also as to what this is.  My lifestyle is absolutely unchanged.  I can only think it refers to international travel, which certainly has been affected.  Otherwise, no changes here....

 

2 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

So you haven't noticed the global pandemic? How odd.

That would be quite possible for soneone who doesn't go out much and spends most of their time in their living room. TV and the internet still work fine.

 

[polpott]

1 hour ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Italians don't want new normal anymore, this was from tonight.

 

 

I saw the same years ago in Sicily. Lots of noise, lots of waving hands and everyone went home uninjured and happy. The reason? A local supermarket changed its opening times.

 

The Italians love a good protest but its harmless fun. Love 'em all.

[ThailandRyan]

38 minutes ago, Crash999 said:

If you Google the word “virus” it will answer all these questions for you and more. 

Virus definition is - any of a large group of submicroscopic infectious agents that are usually regarded as nonliving extremely complex molecules

 

Sounds to me like the definition I posted above is describing most of those who are leading the Governments of the world. 

 

Even they can not agree.

 

Not to be sarcastic, but very few have stayed the course on their beliefs without flip-flopping, case in point is the WHO

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

the pandemic will be over on November 3.

Thank you for being so pragmatic NCC, but I think you meant the 4th when the smoke clears, or full civil war escalates all around.

[suzannegoh]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

The 'scientists' can't even agree on masks, Fauci and WHO can't even make a decision and stick to it.

What should we do? pick one particular scientist, and follow him and every change of mind he has?

Which scientist would you like us to follow?

 

Don't question CNN groupthink.

 

[leosurin]

Well you may said so...

My tough, this time ain't gonna go down easy. 

Myself working in turism industry's got hit hard last summer,not work and little help by Gov.Now they close the skiing places,so no winter season too,restaurants and coffee shops closing at 18.00,people getting affected, Italians as happy and solar peoples are not used to this kinds of restrictions. 

 

[TheFishman1]

I remember after 911 the new normal at airports words could not bring water on the plane they were longer lines and after a few months most people excepted that was the new normal at airports maybe the new normal with this virus is going to be everybody needs to be wearing mask and social distancing until they can come up with a shot for immunization

[scammed]

i think the coffers will run dry long before that

[seancbk]

3 hours ago, ezzra said:

The thing is that no no can or will tell you what the new normal is and what to prepare for, could it be that the new normal is Not normal? and that everyday bring new "new normal"? who can really say beyond just throwing cliche phrases into the air?...

 

The new normal is wearing a mask everywhere, not being able to see people's faces, not being able to have a conversation on the BTS (for those of us in Bangkok that use it a lot). 

 

[suzannegoh]

1 hour ago, robbioff said:

What we’re seeing is a mass over-reaction by most governments around the world. The cure is worse than the disease. Life needs to go on. Healthy people need to work. Unhealthy folks need to protect themselves.

In that regard, Thailand is handling the situation better than most places. 

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, scammed said:

i think the coffers will run dry long before that

It is why the elite have safes full of cash, gold, silver, diamonds and other easily tradeable gems.  For those who do not have any type of savings within reach to live daily life, they better start to put some away within grasp if possible.  This way they can live hand to mouth until the day a newer normal called living life returns.....Yes partially sarcastic.

[Fairynuff]

2 hours ago, holy cow cm said:

The world really needs to slap China hard and heavy for this. For the US, by the way they are going and not following having so many outbreaks, they should have herd immunity really fast being almost ahead of the game

I think you’ve been listening to the great leader too much.

[johnarth]

numbers in the pandemic are wrong because governments (health officials) put many deaths that could or could be related to the Chinese virus in as fact was, is related to the virus, as stated many times as far as many people are concerned nothing has changed for them except they have to wear a face mask when they go shopping, and the governments say that is saving the world, who has noticed that the two meter spacing has been thrown out the window and all big officials are not wearing masks

[scammed]

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

It is why the elite have safes full of cash, gold, silver, diamonds and other easily tradeable gems.  For those who do not have any type of savings within reach to live daily life, they better start to put some away within grasp if possible.  This way they can live hand to mouth until the day a newer normal called living life returns.....Yes partially sarcastic.

in burma they already reached the point of new normal,

as a consequence of fighting covid & climate change (^TM)

peasant life eating rats

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, seancbk said:

 

The new normal is wearing a mask everywhere, not being able to see people's faces, not being able to have a conversation on the BTS (for those of us in Bangkok that use it a lot). 

 

However, the BTS and MRT will be the only place the masks are worn diligently.  Even in malls, folks take them down and walk without, just like on the streets.  Running in Lumpini park now has most folks not wearing them unless they are just walking.  As far as using the Thai Chana app, I rarely see people logging in or scanning into restaurants, or for that matter the Malls and shopping venues.  Last night in China Town, with the last night of the vegetarian festival in full swing, I saw a 50/50 wearing of masks.  When we left to get back on the MRT a group in front of us, who had masks with them but not on, were denied entry until they put them on, and then they apologized to the security personnel at the scanner and taking temperatures.  Seems to me that because of the way this Government has played with Covid in stating that Covid is under control here, people are becoming even more complacent.

[Lacessit]

No question international mobility is gone for some time to come, and the days of budget air travel are gone. Domestic tourism will have to fill the void left by foreigners not coming, in most countries. America is fast becoming the new pariah nation.

I'm relatively unaffected, except for wearing a mask into supermarkets etc. No big deal. I can get all the services I used to get in Australia here, sometimes a lot cheaper.

The people who are really affected by the new normal are those in service industries, the ones who are lucky enough to have jobs have adjust to significantly diminished incomes.

It's an ill-wind that blows nobody any good, Thai women seem to be flirting with me a lot more. And I'm old and ugly.

 

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[Bluedan]

1 hour ago, tribalfusion001 said:

In the UK Prof Sunetra Gupta, Prof Carl Henneghan and Dr Mike Yeadon have different views to the governments medical advisors, these are esteemed experts who are ignored. When there is nothing left after protecting health services, then there will be no money for those health services or anything else. Stopping economies like this causes resentment with the younger generation and those are the people who will suffer paying back for this mess.

Not only are they being ignored but often censored for their scientific opinions. There are more including Nobel prize winner Dr Michale Levitt. None of these people are calling Covid a hoax. They are asking for a sense of proportionality. They argue for protection of the vulnerable and to allow the rest of the population to go about their lives. They may be in the minority as it seems that mainstream is driving an agenda of sticking with the catastrophe originally and falsely predicted by Ferguson in his imperial college model. That model predicted 10-12 times the current death rate. Its ok to say we got that wrong and reformulate policy.

 

There is a flip side to deaths or illness from the disease itself. There is death and misery from the measures taken but those statistics and facts are often marginalized also. The WHO estimated more than 100 million will be thrown into extreme poverty. That surely translates to many deaths and many years of lives lost. This is not just some minor collateral damage. Doctors worldwide are reporting on a mass scale failure to treat cardiac conditions failure to diagnose and treat cancer and other serious illnesses. Children are missing out on education. This will also lead to poverty and reduced life expectancy. And then there is the psychological harm, increases in suicide drug dependance alcoholism and domestic violence.  

 

The focus is on questionable statistics. First of all any death with cover present is classified as a death from Covid. This is misleading and not done with respect too other illnesses. Secondly there is a "casedemic" a focus on case numbers where as initially the talk was all about hospitalizations for serious illness and deaths. Why is now forgotten? Cases simply indicate a positive test which can mean fragments of death virus are still in ones body but not able to make the host sick or transmit. Its another misleading statistic. So the curve was flattened so now eradication? Wait for a silver bullet vaccine which will probably only give 30% effectiveness and then what?  

 

To point out the damage these policies are doing does not make one a COVID denier or conspiracy theorist. There should be a balanced debate not simply blind adherence to this new normal claim.

[Throatwobbler]

44 minutes ago, Bagwain said:

A hell of a lot more than you "know doubt". 12 yrs enough. Grow a brain!

Grow a brain? Lol. Your clearly uneducated statements are laughable and you are telling me to grow a brain. Go to back to using word like plandemic to make yourself feel all clever again.

Edited October 26, 2020 by Throatwobbler

[JerseytoBKK]

35 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

the pandemic will be over on November 3.

3 months ago I thought the same thing, but not now. Are our "leaders" going to just miraculously give up their newfound powers over us? Now that they see how easy it was to scare the majority of people and turn them into children frightened by monsters hiding under the bed, they will feel duty bound to continue to rule us with a firm hand.