Greek Orthodox priest shot and wounded at church in France

[Thorgal]

12 minutes ago, Opl said:

Why did you right-on bring up "Islamophobia"?

 

Islamophobia is also expressing prejudices against Muslims.

 

Many French news outlets and their readers will, from any background, express online solidarity/fraternity in these difficult times.

 

Others will relate inappropriate islamophobic comments towards Muslims that are not concerned.

 

 

Edited November 1, 2020 by Thorgal

[Opl]

1 minute ago, Thorgal said:

 

Islamophobia is also expressing prejudices against Muslims.

 

Many French news outlets and their readers express online solidarity in these difficult times.

Others will relate inappropriate islamophobic comments towards Muslims that are not concerned.

 

 

Nobody - even in French Press mentioned anything like that, since yesterday, it has been reported that there is nothing to say - yet - just a person corresponding to the description of a witness - no details - found in a kebab restaurant - nothing more. You find kebabs everywhere, so what? 

[Thorgal]

4 hours ago, puipuitom said:

After so many terrorist attacks of muslim-origin... chance it was just this time done by a Hindu, Boeddhist, Taoist, Confusionist, Voodoo, polynesian native,  dark brown -African, Indo-Chinan origin, etc  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_France   

If also this president does not be successful, I already know the name of the next: La Pen

 

Shotgun with shortening barrels are used in organised criminal gangs.

This type of weapon was never used by radical Islamists in French history.

French police is now investigating a new trail of the Greek Orthodox network in Lyon. Some Greek fights inside the church happened recently.

No Islamist call was made to claim the attack.

 

Please note that the priest was shot at 4 PM when closing his church just before start of new covid-19 lockdown.

 

Showing up with a noisy shotgun by daylight in the city center and missing his target makes me believe that it won’t be difficult for the French anti terrorism police unit to trace the attacker.

He will be confronted with French dualism during his high protection period in prison.

 

[Thorgal]

1 hour ago, Dumbastheycome said:

And probably more than 50% true.

Who is to know how many times a messenger  has no message other than one they invented or copied to justify personal identification in an effort to deliver ?

 

Quote from link:

 

“Some individuals suffering from mental disorders display signs of radicalisation, which are a consequence of their illness rather than ideological conviction.

Nevertheless, they might emulate modi operandi typical of, or promoted by, terrorist groups.

Ultimately, multiple motives may underlie a decision to carry out an attack, and the intent to commit a terrorist act is only one of several factors to consider when assessing the threat posed by an individual.”

 

https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-te-sat-2020

 

[Ganesh108]

3 hours ago, teelac5 said:

Humankind will never evolve while these myths and fables are forced upon generation after generation. And now it seems like we're regressing back to the dark ages.  

I think countries like Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore have evolved very well despite their populations holding on to many 'myths and fables', as you call them.

 

Not all 'myths and fables' have a toxic influence on their followers. Their influence may even be beneficial, especially if harnessed by a very smart government (Singapore comes to mind). 

[Scott]

Troll post removed.  It's a discussion forum. 

 

[Opl]

5 hours ago, Thorgal said:

 

Quote from link:

 

“Some individuals suffering from mental disorders display signs of radicalisation, which are a consequence of their illness rather than ideological conviction.

Nevertheless, they might emulate modi operandi typical of, or promoted by, terrorist groups.

Ultimately, multiple motives may underlie a decision to carry out an attack, and the intent to commit a terrorist act is only one of several factors to consider when assessing the threat posed by an individual.”

 

https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-te-sat-2020

 

 

Mental illness according to which standards? 

 

 

[Thorgal]

2 hours ago, Opl said:

 

Mental illness according to which standards? 

 

 

 

DSM-5 is widely used now in EU and can be harmonized with other specific standards.

Europol didn’t mention if they’re using a general standard for their test protocol or if they use their own one.

[Opl]

4 hours ago, Thorgal said:

 

DSM-5 is widely used now in EU and can be harmonized with other specific standards.

Europol didn’t mention if they’re using a general standard for their test protocol or if they use their own one.

I'm very doubtful (to say the least) when it comes to the interpretation of signs of disorder applied to persons of other cultures where Religion or beliefs is/are almost the only thing they have. 

 

Edited November 2, 2020 by Opl

[Thorgal]

5 minutes ago, Opl said:

I'm very doubtful (to say the least) when it comes to the interpretation of signs of disorder applied to persons of other cultures where Religion or beliefs is/are almost the only thing they have. 

 

 

Insanity can be examined with checklists and additional surveys if the checklists are not conclusive.

 

Religious profilings are easily detectable because it’s mostly overt.

The covert side of insanity is mostly protected and hidden by what’s called “the mask of sanity”.

 

Many Western jihadi’s joining terrorist organisations in Syria and Iraq had no knowledge of the verses in the Koran and could not even speak classic Arabic. Many of them had records of drugs and serious criminal offenses. Yes, they’ve engaged in military ideology but not really for theological motives.

[FarangULong]

Just like many "apostates" are often rabidly anti-Islam...

[Scott]

Posts with links to foreign language sites have been removed along with replies.  

 

Since there is no credible source to show that the perpetrator was Muslim, continued discussion of Islam is off-topic.   Continue and face a suspension.