Londoners hit the town one last time before new lockdown

[webfact]

Londoners hit the town one last time before new lockdown

 

People are seen enjoying drinks before pubs close ahead of the lockdown in Soho, London, Britain, November 4, 2020. REUTERS/Henry Nicholls

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Londoners shrugged off a resurgent COVID-19 pandemic and flocked to pubs and restaurants on Wednesday night, hours before the introduction of a new month-long lockdown across England.

 

While the UK's death toll from the coronavirus rose on Wednesday by 492, the most since mid-May, London's Soho entertainment district was busy with revellers seeking one last night out before lockdown.

 

People will be ordered to stay at home from 0001 GMT on Thursday to combat a surge in new infections that scientists say could, if unchecked, cause more deaths than a first wave that forced a three-month lockdown earlier this year.

 

The United Kingdom has the biggest official death toll in Europe from COVID-19 and is grappling with more than 20,000 new coronavirus cases a day. Scientists warned the "worst-case" scenario of 80,000 dead could be exceeded without action.

 

Even before Wednesday, data from restaurant bookings service OpenTable showed a surge in demand for London eateries during the run-up to the new lockdown.

 

Several English police forces used social media to urge people going out on Wednesday night to follow social-distancing rules.

 

The rest of the UK - Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland - have their own lockdown policies and enacted tougher health restrictions last month.

 

(Reporting by Henry Nicholls; Writing by Andy Bruce; Editing by Peter Cooney)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-11-05

 

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[LoliLoso]

By the look of the photo of November 4, the Brits do not seem to exit. They are enjoying themselves with social distancing casts aside. Brave Nation. Enjoy to the fullest before lockdown. Great !

[graemeaylward]

Absolute madness!!! This virus is no respecter of deadlines and can strike you down if you do not respect guidelines, which are there to protect you.  If only people had more sense and abided by the regulations, there would be no need for Government legislation!

 

[evadgib]

Two videos have surfaced overnight showing;

 

a) A mother being separated and unable to leave hospital with her newborn child because she will not consent to either of them being covid tested, &

 

b  ) A nurse of 30 years standing sitting in the back of a police car in handcuffs while her adult daughter continues filming. Her 'crime' was to spring her mother (96, in the passenger seat of the car the nurse had been driving) from a care home where she had not been visited for 9 months.

 

A petition to the Queen under ????????????????????????????'s 1688 BoR is going ahead in Hull this Saturday whether plod likes it or not...

[natway09]

So the people do not care obviously,,,,,,,,,what a joke the  people of the UK are making themselves.

I really thought that they had a more brains than the Americans,,,,,,,disapointing

[7by7]

4 hours ago, evadgib said:

Two videos have surfaced overnight showing;

 

a) A mother being separated and unable to leave hospital with her newborn child because she will not consent to either of them being covid tested, &

 

b  ) A nurse of 30 years standing sitting in the back of a police car in handcuffs while her adult daughter continues filming. Her 'crime' was to spring her mother (96, in the passenger seat of the car the nurse had been driving) from a care home where she had not been visited for 9 months.

 

Covid tests are not routinely required for mothers and newborns on leaving hospital anywhere in the UK, under the old rules nor the new ones starting today in England.

 

However, the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health have issued  COVID-19 - guidance for neonatal settings.

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Testing and isolation of infants

General principles

With the increase in testing capacity, it is anticipated that all NHS hospital inpatients will be screened for SARS-CoV-2 on admission. Screening of all mothers on admission to hospital for delivery is intended primarily to inform maternity teams but has implications for clinicians caring for the infant; systems should ensure results are communicated between maternal and neonatal clinical teams.

Performing nasal swabs on asymptomatic newborn infants may result in false negative results and so applying a blanket screening policy for infants admitted to NNUs is not recommended.

 But even if your claim is true and not some conspiracy fantasy; why would any mother not want herself or her baby tested?

 

As for Ms Angeli, she was arrested on suspicion of assault.

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"We responded to a report of an assault at the care home, who are legally responsible for the woman's care and were concerned for her wellbeing.

"As was our legal duty, we returned the lady to the home and a 73-year-old woman who was initially arrested was de-arrested and allowed to return home with her daughter.

 

See also Hull police arrest nurse as she tries to take mum, 97, from care home

 

Very surprised that you were unable to link to either of those reports or the others in the MSM. 

 

5 hours ago, evadgib said:

A petition to the Queen under ????????????????????????????'s 1688 BoR is going ahead in Hull this Saturday whether plod likes it or not..

 

Five new confirmed coronavirus cases in Hull and East Yorkshire

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The total number of cases in the region has increased to 3,378

 

Kirk Ella becomes East Riding's biggest coronavirus hotspot

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With the infection rate of all the positive cases that have been recorded in the East Riding throughout the pandemic now at 595.6 per 100,000 of the population.....

 

 

If these morons, like those pictured in the OP, want to infect each other, that's up to them. But they are putting the health and lives of others at risk, too.

[salsajapan]

All these people in EU and UK just get what they deserve...

 

Bye bye Christmas !

 

5555+

 

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, natway09 said:

So the people do not care obviously,,,,,,,,,what a joke the  people of the UK are making themselves.

I really thought that they had a more brains than the Americans,,,,,,,disapointing

It's extremely embarrassing and infuriating.  Especially from a country that has a proud history of coming together to defeat a common enemy.

 

A lot of incredibly selfish and short-sighted individuals that don't care about anyone other than themselves, or are simply too stupid to realise that they are not the only person who is at risk.

 

"I don't care if I get the coronavirus.  I don't see what the big deal is.  If you're going to get it, you're going to get it."  Great, but you're part of endangering vulnerable people and ruining the economy.

[BangkokReady]

4 minutes ago, salsajapan said:

All these people in EU and UK just get what they deserve...

Come on... there are a lot of people following all the restrictions to the letter and they are being punished for other people's stupidity.

[BangkokReady]

6 hours ago, evadgib said:

A mother being separated and unable to leave hospital with her newborn child

Separated?  Like they took the newborn baby away from her and would not let her access it?  Or they asked her to stay and the baby and mother were occasionally separated like any newborn and mother are?

 

If "videos" have "surfaced", why not link the videos?  Then people won't assume you're either lying or exaggerating.

[Tarteso]

Send Anutin to GB.... problem resolved.

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

Separated?  Like they took the newborn baby away from her and would not let her access it?  Or they asked her to stay and the baby and mother were occasionally separated like any newborn and mother are?

 

If "videos" have "surfaced", why not link the videos?  Then people won't assume you're either lying or exaggerating.

Because of the frequency by which the report button is abused in order to stifle the many things MSM & the lefties won't touch.

LBC and talkradio have since covered the kidnapped granny.

HTH

Edited November 5, 2020 by evadgib

[Susco]

18 minutes ago, evadgib said:

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

If "videos" have "surfaced", why not link the videos?  Then people won't assume you're either lying or exaggerating.

Because all too often they disappear along with the accompanying text which is why I rarely bother & didn't on this occasion.

LBC and talkradio have since covered the latter.

 

You know for which reason certain videos are removed from this forum, don't you

[7by7]

15 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Because all too often they disappear along with the accompanying text which is why I rarely bother & didn't on this occasion.

 So your mother and baby story doesn't come from a reputable source; what a surprise.

 

17 minutes ago, evadgib said:

LBC and talkradio have since covered the latter.

Bit late; as previously shown it was on Sky News this morning and in the local paper yesterday!

[evadgib]

Just now, Susco said:

 

You know for which reason certain videos are removed from this forum, don't you

All too well pal ????

[evadgib]

14 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 So your mother and baby story doesn't come from a reputable source; what a surprise.

 

Bit late; as previously shown it was on Sky News this morning and in the local paper yesterday!

In which case why haven't you told us about it?

(& I consider a first hand account from a distraught visitor to the hospital a reputable source 49, but knew full well the tar and feathers were poised as explained).

Edited November 5, 2020 by evadgib

[7by7]

17 minutes ago, evadgib said:

In which case why haven't you told us about it?

 Because by the time I'd seen it on Sky you'd already posted about it.

 

It also has nothing to do with this topic; I'd have posted it in  the one on the actual lockdown.

 

17 minutes ago, evadgib said:

(& I consider a first hand account from a distraught visitor to the hospital a reputable source 49, but knew full well the tar and feathers were poised as explained)

 I haver not made any attempt to "tar and feather" Ms Ashton, her mother nor her Grandmother. Neither has anyone else.

 

But I am not surprised that you have made such an accusation; par for the course from you.

 

 

 

 

[sammieuk1]

The sensible waited until today before going out shopping Sainsburys and Asda empty of shoppers after what looked like Christmas on steroids yesterday????

[evadgib]

22 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 Because by the time I'd seen it on Sky you'd already posted about it.

 

It also has nothing to do with this topic; I'd have posted it in  the one on the actual lockdown.

 

 I haver not made any attempt to "tar and feather" Ms Ashton, her mother nor her Grandmother. Neither has anyone else.

 

But I am not surprised that you have made such an accusation; par for the course from you.

Excellent twist; wrong end of the stick as usual but lets leave it there.

[impulse]

2 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

A lot of incredibly selfish and short-sighted individuals that don't care about anyone other than themselves, or are simply too stupid to realise that they are not the only person who is at risk.

 

Are you referring to the people out working, making a living, and enjoying life, or the ones who would have all that grind to a halt by government edict?

 

Because, either way, there's going to be a lot of pain inflicted on one group or another.

 

Edited November 5, 2020 by impulse

[BangkokReady]

18 minutes ago, impulse said:

Are you referring to the people out working, making a living, and enjoying life, or the ones who would have all that grind to a halt by government edict?

I'm referring to the people who I'm obviously referring to in the entirety of the comment.

[impulse]

24 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

I'm referring to the people who I'm obviously referring to in the entirety of the comment.

 

There was never any doubt who you were referring to.  Just whether you realize that there are 2 sides to most polarizing arguments like this one. 

 

Apparently not.

 

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

there are 2 sides to most polarizing arguments like this one

Not really.  You don't need to shut everything down.  Just follow basic measures like social distancing, wearing masks and regularly sanitising.  These basic measures are even being ignored, as we see constantly.

 

I'm sure you'll say that people need human contact and businesses need to open, but if people weren't so lazy that they couldn't even meet the basics, we wouldn't be going into another lock down now.

 

Unfortunately, it's pretty much a "if you can't play nicely, we'll have to take your toys away" situation.

 

Obviously the government has handled the outbreak terribly and their lack of action is to blame for many deaths, but the blood (and phlegm) of many innocent Brits are on the hands of the extremely selfish public as well.

[onebir]

3 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

It's extremely embarrassing and infuriating.  Especially from a country that has a proud history of coming together to defeat a common enemy.

 

A lot of incredibly selfish and short-sighted individuals that don't care about anyone other than themselves, or are simply too stupid to realise that they are not the only person who is at risk.

I don't get this either... The British history's not so recent, but Israelis have been subject to more or less constant existential danger too; if 'coming together' was going to work anywhere, one might have thought it would be there. But actually they also managed to fail to keep Covid under control (partly due to political reluctance to impose a timely second lockdown).

 

The logic (& even existence) of the concept of a 'common good' seems lost on many people in many places.

[thaibeachlovers]

22 hours ago, webfact said:

People will be ordered to stay at home from 0001 GMT on Thursday to combat a surge in new infections that scientists say could, if unchecked, cause more deaths than a first wave that forced a three-month lockdown earlier this year.

It'll be interesting to see how much of a push back against the dictat there is. Seems to me that people have had a gutsful of government imposed imprisonment for all and are going to resist. Time will tell.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

Not really.  You don't need to shut everything down.  Just follow basic measures like social distancing, wearing masks and regularly sanitising.  These basic measures are even being ignored, as we see constantly.

 

I'm sure you'll say that people need human contact and businesses need to open, but if people weren't so lazy that they couldn't even meet the basics, we wouldn't be going into another lock down now.

 

Unfortunately, it's pretty much a "if you can't play nicely, we'll have to take your toys away" situation.

 

Obviously the government has handled the outbreak terribly and their lack of action is to blame for many deaths, but the blood (and phlegm) of many innocent Brits are on the hands of the extremely selfish public as well.

It's statements like after the last comma that have caused some to resist. Some are not convinced, despite the rhetoric.

[faraday]

How can the British people believe anything that BJ says?

 

I posted a comment yesterday about Hospitals not being overwhelmed, & another comment about Matty Hancock giving yet more munny to a Tory linked company for Covid testing.

 

Additionally, I asked why the Covid deaths by age are not being revealed........

 

Then, I read this:

 

"A rapid coronavirus test at the heart of Boris Johnson’s mass-testing strategy missed more than 50% of positive cases ...."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/05/operation-moonshot-rapid-covid-test-missed-over-50-of-cases-in-pilot

 

 

 

 

[7by7]

21 hours ago, evadgib said:

Excellent twist; wrong end of the stick as usual

OK, looking back I see that you said "a first hand account from a distraught visitor to the hospital." So am I now to assume that you meant your mother and newborn baby separation claim?

21 hours ago, evadgib said:

but lets leave it there.

Of course; as usual you have no credible evidence with which to substantiate your claim!

[BritManToo]

On 11/5/2020 at 6:56 PM, BangkokReady said:

It's extremely embarrassing and infuriating.  Especially from a country that has a proud history of coming together to defeat a common enemy.

 

A lot of incredibly selfish and short-sighted individuals that don't care about anyone other than themselves, or are simply too stupid to realise that they are not the only person who is at risk.

 

"I don't care if I get the coronavirus.  I don't see what the big deal is.  If you're going to get it, you're going to get it."  Great, but you're part of endangering vulnerable people and ruining the economy.

On the other hand, Brits have a reputation for fighting tyranny.

Give me liberty, or give me death!

Edited November 6, 2020 by BritManToo

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

OK, looking back I see that you said "a first hand account from a distraught visitor to the hospital." So am I now to assume that you meant your mother and newborn baby separation claim?

Of course; as usual you have no credible evidence with which to substantiate your claim!

- Assume whatever you like.

- Actually It's YOU (as always) that lacks whatever you're looking for & I for one will not be feeding you.