2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

 Only if you regard a police station cell as a jail .

Jails and police stations are two separate places 

Only a Judge can send a person to jail , the police cannot take a person to jail and this guy didnt even get prosecuted and he will not have a criminal record stating he spent two days in jail .

Jail and prison are often used interchangeably as places of confinement. If you want to be specific jail can be used to describe a place for those awaiting trial or held for minor crimes, whereas prison describes a place for convicted criminals of serious crimes.

 

”held for minor crimes”

 

You’re arguing with dictionary definitions. That’s special. 

I love how people are trying to justify what the resort did just because the guest, apparently, acted like a jerk and was dishonest.

The long and short of it is the resort knew full well the local laws and the fact that the guest risked prison. And they still went ahead with the criminal charges. That's a major a-hole move if I ever saw one.

The least Trip Advisor could do is warn any prospective guests. Well done.

Edited November 12, 20205 yr by Dalewhatdale

Great of Tripadvisor. Well done. 

Paying off officials to do the dirty work and go to the court for a bad review? Hope everyone will boycott this place for ever. 

Watch out for change of name!!!! get the address!

6 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   ...

   Trip Advisor should warn people not to make false reviews 

They do. Every single time you post a review.

TripAdvisor is only earning potential travellers that A person spent time in jail for posting a bad review.

why is the hotel complaining.

what TripAdvisor wrote is the truth.

beware Thailand, your archaic laws and those companies that use these laws are now on notice.

end of rant

9 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

Jail and prison are often used interchangeably as places of confinement. If you want to be specific jail can be used to describe a place for those awaiting trial or held for minor crimes, whereas prison describes a place for convicted criminals of serious crimes.

 

”held for minor crimes”

 

You’re arguing with dictionary definitions. That’s special. 

 

   He didnt get sent to jail . 

He didnt receive a jail sentance for his review 

He was held at a police station for two days and then released without charge , he didnt go anywhere near a jail

2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   He didnt get sent to jail . 

He didnt receive a jail sentance for his review 

He was held at a police station for two days and then released without charge , he didnt go anywhere near a jail

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/11/world/asia/thailand-hotel-tripadvisor-jail.html

https://www.foxnews.com/travel/tripadvisor-warns-thai-hotel-american-jailed-critical-review

https://bdnews24.com/travelandtourism/2020/11/11/thai-hotel-that-put-american-in-jail-gets-new-label-on-tripadvisor

https://nypost.com/2020/11/11/tripadvisor-puts-warning-on-thai-hotel-that-had-guest-jailed/

https://skift.com/2020/11/11/tripadvisor-struck-back-at-thailand-hotel-that-had-reviewer-jailed/

 

The recurring word that stands out in the first 5 searches on Google is the word 'jail'. That's because he was jailed. 

By the way, if you want to visit the Sea View Resort and Spa Koh Chang in the middle of December, we randomly chose a date on Bookings.com and found a room for 2,900 baht a night. Have a great time, but don’t argue about the corkage!

 

Give me 2,900 baht a night, I would not stay at them ..... I hope this hotel will go to hell! 

1 minute ago, rkidlad said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/11/world/asia/thailand-hotel-tripadvisor-jail.html

https://www.foxnews.com/travel/tripadvisor-warns-thai-hotel-american-jailed-critical-review

https://bdnews24.com/travelandtourism/2020/11/11/thai-hotel-that-put-american-in-jail-gets-new-label-on-tripadvisor

https://nypost.com/2020/11/11/tripadvisor-puts-warning-on-thai-hotel-that-had-guest-jailed/

https://skift.com/2020/11/11/tripadvisor-struck-back-at-thailand-hotel-that-had-reviewer-jailed/

 

The recurring word that stands out in the first 5 searches on Google is the word 'jail'. That's because he was jailed. 

 

   No, he was held at a police station , and then released without charge , he didnt get a jail term sentance , he didnt receive any punishment because the case didnt go to Court , he got released without charge 

No, he was held at a police station , and then released without charge , he didnt get a jail term sentance , he didnt receive any punishment because the case didnt go to Court , he got released without charge 

 

Do u have any .... idea what 2 days are like under Thai police 'hospitality'? Hell on earth!

Edited November 12, 20205 yr by Chopinbkk

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   No, he was held at a police station , and then released without charge , he didnt get a jail term sentance , he didnt receive any punishment because the case didnt go to Court , he got released without charge 

After he made bail he was released from jail, yes. 

2 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

After he made bail he was released from jail, yes. 

 

  He wasnt bailed , he was released without charge  , released without charge from the police station  when he had spent the previous night 

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  He wasnt bailed , he was released without charge  , released without charge from the police station  when he had spent the previous night 

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/09/30/us-man-could-get-prison-for-review-of-koh-chang-hotel/

"In an earlier statement for the media, he said he has lost his teaching job and fears going to prison. He was arrested earlier this month and freed on 100,000 baht ($3,160) bail after being jailed for two nights. His next court date is Oct. 6"

 

Yeesh! You're having a shocker. 

2 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/09/30/us-man-could-get-prison-for-review-of-koh-chang-hotel/

"In an earlier statement for the media, he said he has lost his teaching job and fears going to prison. He was arrested earlier this month and freed on 100,000 baht ($3,160) bail after being jailed for two nights. His next court date is Oct. 6"

 

Yeesh! You're having a shocker. 

 

  Yes, but before the Oct 6 court hearing , he got released without charge after making a settlement with the hotel  

7 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   Many Countries have slander laws .

The American guy didnt get charged for writing a negative review, he got charged with lying about the hotel and writing false reviews 

True ... but I do note a large difference in Thai law and slander/libel law in those other countries.

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Yes, but before the Oct 6 court hearing , he got released without charge after making a settlement with the hotel  

You said he wasn't bailed - 

You can stop now. 

2 hours ago, Thomas Hannah said:

No it is not.this will be highlighted in western media.how wrong trip advisor have been.not good for trip adviser reputation.

You could not be more wrong. It has made the BBC news again now and guess what? 

 

More bad publicity for the hotel and Thai tourism. 

27 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   He didnt get sent to jail . 

He didnt receive a jail sentance for his review 

He was held at a police station for two days and then released without charge , he didnt go anywhere near a jail

He was in a cell in a police station right? 

2 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

He was in a cell in a police station right? 

 

   Yes, he spent the night in a cell at a police station 

Just now, CorpusChristie said:

 

   Yes, he spent the night in a cell at a police station 

He said 2 nights? 

 

So he was in a police station jail cell for two nights? 

 

That's confirmed, right? 

8 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

You could not be more wrong. It has made the BBC news again now and guess what? 

 

More bad publicity for the hotel and Thai tourism. 

Forget it. Thais will not understand how sick their draconian laws (and treatment of inmates) are regarded in the rest of the world. They can benchmark themselves with Saudi Arabia, but that is as good as it gets. In this respect, lovely Thailand is 500 years behind the rest of the civilised world ...... .
Let's make it easy: Stay away from this hotel and refer to this case if u write a (negative) comment on Trip Advisor.

Edited November 12, 20205 yr by Chopinbkk

Fritssinkkink hit the nail on the head. I usually avoid any comments here, because as he says "dumb comments as usual.".  Too many idle farang with nothing better to do.  The reviewer does have a conviction for aggressive and illegal behaviour with restaurants/hotels and it does give an indication of the type of character he is. Full marks to the hotel and no accolades to Tripadvisor for adding fuel to the fire with their snarky warning.  Highly unprofessional.

2 hours ago, mark131v said:

 

Nope, no other Thai hotels have had their guests jailed, old saying: you make your bed, you lie in it

 

 

 

Ahh but if you slander them they do have the right to have you jailed though... that is what the warning is for.

6 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

He said 2 nights? 

 

So he was in a police station jail cell for two nights? 

 

That's confirmed, right? 

 

   Two days......................which would mean one night                       

2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   Two days......................which would mean one night                       

'Barnes, who says he has lost his job teaching English in Thailand, was arrested earlier this month and taken back to Koh Chang by authorities. Since he arrived on Saturday, Sept. 12, he wasn’t able to post the 100,000 baht (about $3,164 USD) bail until Monday, and spent two nights in jail'

 

https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/wesley-barnes-thailand-hotel-review-defamation

44 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   He didnt get sent to jail . 

He didnt receive a jail sentance for his review 

He was held at a police station for two days and then released without charge , he didnt go anywhere near a jail

I thought he spent time in Trat jail?

I see this story is now running on the BBC website, whatever the truth of the matter, this hasn't done the resort any favours. The motto "The customer is always right" is clearly the better path. 

The resort should sue trip adviser ???? Tripadviser should not be allowed in Thailand it is BS review site. They should give a general warning for Thailand but not single out this resort.They  are there for their own interests only, nothing to do with real and honest reviews. They US guy was way out of line and it serves him well.

1 minute ago, ChipButty said:

I thought he spent time in Trat jail?

 

   He would only have gone to jail if the Judge at the trial gave him a jail sentance , he got released without charge and didnt go to a jail 

1 minute ago, SomchaiCNX said:

The resort should sue trip adviser ???? Tripadviser should not be allowed in Thailand it is BS review site. They should give a general warning for Thailand but not single out this resort.They  are there for their own interests only, nothing to do with real and honest reviews. They US guy was way out of line and it serves him well.

 

   Yes, I think that warning was also a warning to other businesses in Thailand *If you prosecute any reviewers , we will place this on your TA page* , which will discourage any more prosecutions