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Popular Post bwpage3 Posted November 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 If you have to live in Thailand because of finances you can make it work, however, if you have the finances, there are much, much nicer places. Thailand continues to go down hill year after year. Years pass before a new government is elected, because the old government did absolutely nothing while they were in power. Change of attitude towards foreigners. Make sure to keep 500,000 baht topped up so you can visit for 60 days and spend all your money. Did you ever think how many 1,000's of countries you can visit without that requirement? Air pollution and over crowding getting worse and worse. Costs rising. Poor exchange rate. Just reported 41% of all Thai's living paycheck to paycheck. How in the world could anyone even predict the next 1, 5 or 10 years in Thailand or the challenges that may arise due to the decisions of the government? Student uprisings are just the start. They are finally learning life and their future doesn't look quite so great. 5 1 2 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post swissie Posted November 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, bwpage3 said: Just reported 41% of all Thai's living paycheck to paycheck. Not bad compared to the US. 14 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2009 Posted November 15, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, bwpage3 said: If you have to live in Thailand because of finances you can make it work, however, if you have the finances, there are much, much nicer places. Thailand continues to go down hill year after year. Years pass before a new government is elected, because the old government did absolutely nothing while they were in power. Change of attitude towards foreigners. Make sure to keep 500,000 baht topped up so you can visit for 60 days and spend all your money. Did you ever think how many 1,000's of countries you can visit without that requirement? Air pollution and over crowding getting worse and worse. Costs rising. Poor exchange rate. Just reported 41% of all Thai's living paycheck to paycheck. How in the world could anyone even predict the next 1, 5 or 10 years in Thailand or the challenges that may arise due to the decisions of the government? Student uprisings are just the start. They are finally learning life and their future doesn't look quite so great. Mkay, I think you entered the wrong meeting. I certainly can't refute everything that you said; you have some good points. I see Thailand getting better year after year, to be honest. Less grungy and fun, but better. I see Western countries going downhill actually. I haven't noticed a change in attitude toward foreigners, but the Bangkokians are a bit more polite and civilized in general. I didn't realize there were thousands of countries on Earth. And I actually really appreciate Thailand's immigration policy in general. I assume the new requirement is just temporary though. I honestly haven't noticed prices rising much in 10 years. Ah, Thailand always has a red/yellow protest once every decade. Nothing new there. 13 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UB40 Posted November 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 All I love about Thailand was earned thru the last years and will remain in my memory. R.i.P. Thailand, I stay away in the future, your visitors rules are ridiculous 3 5 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lovethai123 Posted November 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) I love how they say "go with you" Edited November 15, 2020 by lovethai123 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2009 Posted November 15, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 44 minutes ago, UB40 said: All I love about Thailand was earned thru the last years and will remain in my memory. R.i.P. Thailand, I stay away in the future, your visitors rules are ridiculous What visitor rules are ridiculous? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 473geo Posted November 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, bwpage3 said: If you have to live in Thailand because of finances you can make it work, however, if you have the finances, there are much, much nicer places. Thailand continues to go down hill year after year. Years pass before a new government is elected, because the old government did absolutely nothing while they were in power. Change of attitude towards foreigners. Make sure to keep 500,000 baht topped up so you can visit for 60 days and spend all your money. Did you ever think how many 1,000's of countries you can visit without that requirement? Air pollution and over crowding getting worse and worse. Costs rising. Poor exchange rate. Just reported 41% of all Thai's living paycheck to paycheck. How in the world could anyone even predict the next 1, 5 or 10 years in Thailand or the challenges that may arise due to the decisions of the government? Student uprisings are just the start. They are finally learning life and their future doesn't look quite so great. I think you misread the title ???? 2 1 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psimbo Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Thaigeezers. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UB40 Posted November 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 minute ago, 2009 said: What visitor rules are ridiculous? Try to visit Thailand as a tourist again, as I did for many years, always 2-4 weeks and 2 trips every year. Now: Prepay tickets 40000 COE 3000 ASQ hotel 50000 "Fit-for-fly" medical 3000 Special Covid insurance 4000 Name a guarantee $$$ 2-3 days before flight PCR-Test 3000 If positive all above money is gone After arrival 14 days jail with 3 meals daily. After that time is over, you wear a wristband 2-3 days and fly back home. End of holidays 5 2 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 473geo Posted November 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 If one is flexible and not steeped in the current PC indoctrination of the 'western world' Thailand is a very relaxed country . Just have to remember that well known quote from the pigs 'all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others' 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2009 Posted November 15, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, UB40 said: Try to visit Thailand as a tourist again, as I did for many years, always 2-4 weeks and 2 trips every year. Now: Prepay tickets 40000 COE 3000 ASQ hotel 50000 "Fit-for-fly" medical 3000 Special Covid insurance 4000 Name a guarantee $$$ 2-3 days before flight PCR-Test 3000 If positive all above money is gone After arrival 14 days jail with 3 meals daily. After that time is over, you wear a wristband 2-3 days and fly back home. End of holidays Sorry, the pandemic is affecting sanook time (which, by the way, is a bargain these days). Thailand has done an excellent job of managing the pandemic. And this won't be forever, you know. Edited November 15, 2020 by 2009 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UB40 Posted November 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, 2009 said: And this won't be forever, you know. Everybody's time is limited. So is mine. I will try to find another country for my retirement relocation. 6 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted November 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 The love has gone ???? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post talahtnut Posted November 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 20 years ago Thailand was wonderful, now my best memory of Thailand was escaping at the end of July, too much anti farang sentiment for me as someone aimed his car at me as I was crossing the road. I will never go back, the missus is coming over here next year, shes Thai, and is also angry with Thailand. 8 1 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 My way of life here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chinasimon Posted November 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 The food Pretty women Good weather 7/11 snacks Some hotels Islands visited by yacht Some people are friendly Artsy stuff Coffee culture Live music Luxury condos with amenities Naughty nightlife Some great roads Scenic places I'm sure there's more but those are all pretty great and not easily found in the region. 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bwpage3 Posted November 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2020 10 hours ago, 2009 said: Mkay, I think you entered the wrong meeting. I certainly can't refute everything that you said; you have some good points. I see Thailand getting better year after year, to be honest. Less grungy and fun, but better. I see Western countries going downhill actually. I haven't noticed a change in attitude toward foreigners, but the Bangkokians are a bit more polite and civilized in general. I didn't realize there were thousands of countries on Earth. And I actually really appreciate Thailand's immigration policy in general. I assume the new requirement is just temporary though. I honestly haven't noticed prices rising much in 10 years. Ah, Thailand always has a red/yellow protest once every decade. Nothing new there. Air pollution is get better yes 500,000 baht in the bank for 60 day VISA yes Exchange rate getting better? Haven't noticed any rising prices the past 10 years? You like that Sukhimvit Road SOI 4 is nothing but western fast food? People that have trapped themselves in Thailand, never notice anything but the roses. What choice do they have with no way to get out? 2 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwpage3 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 10 hours ago, swissie said: Not bad compared to the US. Revisit 1997 and educate yourself! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bwpage3 Posted November 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2020 9 hours ago, 2009 said: What visitor rules are ridiculous? How about 500,000 baht in the bank for a 60 day visa. I would say that is pretty darn ridiculous. 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bwpage3 Posted November 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2020 9 hours ago, 473geo said: I think you misread the title ???? Not going to worship the false god, sorry. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bwpage3 Posted November 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2020 9 hours ago, 2009 said: Sorry, the pandemic is affecting sanook time (which, by the way, is a bargain these days). Thailand has done an excellent job of managing the pandemic. And this won't be forever, you know. What does managing the pandemic have to do with all these ridiculous costs? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2009 Posted November 16, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, bwpage3 said: Air pollution is get better yes 500,000 baht in the bank for 60 day VISA yes Exchange rate getting better? Haven't noticed any rising prices the past 10 years? You like that Sukhimvit Road SOI 4 is nothing but western fast food? People that have trapped themselves in Thailand, never notice anything but the roses. What choice do they have with no way to get out? Air pollution right now in Bangkok at rush hour is moderate, same as Chiang Mai, Korat, Udon. You could live in Phuket. No air pollution. I check the app regularly. Lol, the 500k is a new thing and presumably temporary. You should see how hard it is for a Thai to get a visitor visa to the UK under normal circumstances. The exchange rate is better, yes, depends which way you are exchanging. I can buy more of other currencies with my baht. The baht is strong. I get that some don't like that. Honestly, no. I haven't noticed rising prices. My rent is less than 10 years ago, fried rice is the same, I think a beer on Sukhumvit is less these days. Maybe there has been a little inflation. That is normal, you know, but I haven't really noticed it. Yes, I go to soi 4 for farang food. If it was full of Thai food, I would have to go somewhere else. Lol. You know Chinatown in London is full of Chinese food. Sounds like in your last paragraph you are describing a retiree who came here so his pension could go further, but now is getting squashed by the exchange rate, yet can't afford to go anywhere else. Are you describing yourself or what? Edited November 16, 2020 by 2009 2 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2009 Posted November 16, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, bwpage3 said: What does managing the pandemic have to do with all these ridiculous costs? What ridiculous costs? Insurance isn't free you know. Nor are blood tests. The 500k. Well, they want tourists to stimulate the economy right now cos times are hard. Many countries aren't allowing international travel right now which is fair enough. Thailand is being selective. They want tourists with a bit of cash. It is risk vs reward. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baansgr Posted November 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2020 Cheap cost of living, ease of transport, reasonable climate...do a thread on what you dislike about Thailand, will be a longer list???????????? 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post quake Posted November 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2020 Departure lounge Swampy. 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2009 Posted November 16, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2020 26 minutes ago, bwpage3 said: How about 500,000 baht in the bank for a 60 day visa. I would say that is pretty darn ridiculous. Some people in can spend thousands on a 2 week family vacation. Brits do it all the time in Spain. I don't get it. What's the problem? Who doesn't have 500k in the bank? It is not a lot of money. Christ. Even an farang English teacher in Thailand could save that up in a few years, max. I see many people complaining about the 400k, the 800k, now the 500k. But I am thinking what's the problem? How can you blame Thai immigration that you don't have that amount of money? It ain't a fortune. 4 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 ;Noi and Nit and Wan and Lek and ............. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted November 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2020 10 hours ago, 2009 said: What visitor rules are ridiculous? IMO everything except the visa exempt entry. Which is not to say other countries rules are better. Threatening to make visitors wear tracking devices is <deleted>. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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