3 hours ago, CraigInBangkok said:

 or "i need a superiority complex" ... but I would think used as an anesthetic is more likely

there’s no shortage of that affliction here, Thai or foreign 

30 minutes ago, Hayduke said:

 

Why? If you’re making money selling illegal drugs…the last thing you want to hear is that they’re going to legalize it.

 

 

 

The soon to be opened Sukhumvit branches of 'Abuja Community Dispensary' agree.

And up goes the death rate on the roads, as if it's not bad enough already..

Actually this is good news.  Locally developed medications from these sources will be less expensive for Thais, giving more of them access to medications that were previously too expensive.

 

Cocaine hydrochloride is used in eye drops for some medical purposes.  It is a good anesthetic and is still used for eye surgery.  It is also a vasoconstricting agent, useful for certain conditions.

 

Opium can be converted into morphine as well as into heroin.  Morphine is widely used as a pain killer, cough suppressant,  and can be used for severe cases of diarrhea. 

 

Heroin can be used as a last resort pain killer in cases such as terminal cancer, but is out of favor and generally illegal because of its addictivity.  Synthetic opioids such a fentinyl, which is stronger than heroine but also even more addictive than heroin (the developers lied about fentinyl's addictivity to get governments to approve it), are used instead.

I don't know what this all means. Morphine has always been available in Thai hospitals and it is hard to see how they could manage without it.  The vet told me that diamorphine (heroin) is also also available in human and animal hospitals for use as pain killer of last resort in terminal patients.

Does this mean that paracetamol with codeine and cough syrup with codeine will be back on sale in pharmacies over the counter?  I doubt it.  No mention of allowing cold medicine with pseudoethedrine that actually works back either. So what difference is this going to make for the average person who gets a cold or allergies or back pain from time to time?  

 

It seems like ministries feel under an obligation to make meaningless press releases from time to time to make it appear to the ignorant public that they are doing something useful. The ignorant Thai reporters just print them as is without understanding them. 

Edited November 17, 20205 yr by Dogmatix

Excellent ! the roads are too safe and the driving standard too high here

 

42 minutes ago, HarrySeaman said:

Actually this is good news.  Locally developed medications from these sources will be less expensive for Thais, giving more of them access to medications that were previously too expensive.

 

Cocaine hydrochloride is used in eye drops for some medical purposes.  It is a good anesthetic and is still used for eye surgery.  It is also a vasoconstricting agent, useful for certain conditions.

 

Opium can be converted into morphine as well as into heroin.  Morphine is widely used as a pain killer, cough suppressant,  and can be used for severe cases of diarrhea. 

 

Heroin can be used as a last resort pain killer in cases such as terminal cancer, but is out of favor and generally illegal because of its addictivity.  Synthetic opioids such a fentinyl, which is stronger than heroine but also even more addictive than heroin (the developers lied about fentinyl's addictivity to get governments to approve it), are used instead.

 

You can already get Ropec which is codeine in hospitals and is useful as a cough suppressant and against diarrhea.  Tramadol, a synthetic opioid recently disappeared from pharmacies but is still available in hospitals.

 

This regulation will be effective 240 days after the date of announcement in the Royal Gazette.

2 minutes ago, Dogmatix said:

Tramadol, a synthetic opioid recently disappeared from pharmacies but is still available in hospitals.

You might want to check again, as the Pharmacies I get my meds from still carry Tramadol, as I use it on an as needed basis for my back issues, and keep stocking up whenever I go into the LAB, or the two other pharmacies I use.

5 hours ago, webfact said:

▪︎ For the benefit of the government.

 

Cocaine for the benefit of the government ?

Sounds good ...

So, let me see:

Covid19 chineses virus total deaths: 59

Drug overdose and related deaths: into thousands   

 

another great decision 

It also means that long distance Thai registered aircraft will be able to carry  morphine on board

for emergencies & they do arise

 

5 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Sounds like plans to put the Golden Triangle back into production to benefit the government.I wonder if this is at the suggestion of one Thamanat.

 

nah  because  as  we  were  told  earlier,  behind  every  good man  is a 30  year  younger peace and  love  world  saviour handbag  devouring porsche  driving  woman.................who  always  puts  love  first

That’s handy . If I’m not mistaken is China not one of the worlds biggest manufacturers of chemicals used to make synthetic drugs ? 
If so then it’s nice of the Thai government to put all these things in place to make it easy for the new masters to start manufacturing in new factories in Thailand . 

5 hours ago, webfact said:

For the benefit of the government.

does this mean as long as gov is getting a cut, its all good ?

5 hours ago, robblok said:

Best to let them totally liberalise cat 5 (weed kratom) instead of this

i thought they just legalized Kratom a few weeks ago ?

IIRC from what wifey told me, but could be LIT

correct that, after looking myself
it just looks like gov will soon be able to "legally" produce, sell and export,
and will still criminalize anyone else that engages in the activity

Edited November 17, 20205 yr by patman30

Cocaine is also used during procedures involving the upper respiratory tract. In addition to anesthesia and vasoconstriction of the upper respiratory tract, cocaine also shrinks the mucosa or mucous membranes.3

Cocaine used during medical procedures comes in the form of a topical solution. This cocaine hydrochloride solution comes in three different concentrations: 1%, 4%, or 10%. Because of potential toxicity, usually, only 1% or 4% solutions are used

9 minutes ago, ronaldo0 said:

That’s handy . If I’m not mistaken is China not one of the worlds biggest manufacturers of chemicals used to make synthetic drugs ? 
If so then it’s nice of the Thai government to put all these things in place to make it easy for the new masters to start manufacturing in new factories in Thailand . 

From what i read, these are not synthetics,
however with the 240 days etc.
maybe they are in the middle of negotiations????

4 hours ago, bluesofa said:

Meet your new crack dealer  - the Thai government.

 

Funny it comes just a few days after they found a billion of dollars worth of drugs...

 

They havn't even really foud out how to do the marihuana legalization thqt's still in the works , but i geuss they already see lots of money can be made so quickly move on to different drugs to make even more . Or is this law just made to justify the return of the katingdaeng son . 

Oh good then Cannabis will be much more available and less regulated. I noticed my supplier has had more and better lately. People need to avoid narcotics cannabis is the only medicine you need for things like sleep and even chronic pain once you get used to it. Medical Cannabis has done me a world of good and I’m even more active physically because of it. I’m a disabled veteran and I’m telling you medical cannabis works. Just don’t drink or mix it with any other medication. I never drink anymore or take ANY OTHER medication anymore thanks to medical cannabis.
 

So that’s probably why medical cannabis is suddenly more plentiful lately ????. 

4 minutes ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

They havn't even really foud out how to do the marihuana legalization thqt's still in the works , but i geuss they already see lots of money can be made so quickly move on to different drugs to make even more . Or is this law just made to justify the return of the katingdaeng son . 

It’s been done for a few years now actually not bad at all either. 

6 hours ago, webfact said:

▪︎ For the benefit of the government.

Say's it all.

6 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

This is good news for those suffering

chronic conditions. 
 

Thailand slowly moving forwards into the 21st century !

I don't think they will be the main beneficiaries.

But please do not push narcotics on people 

3 hours ago, Keesters said:

Well that's it. Thailand is now officially insane. 

Thailand is now officially broke more like.

1 minute ago, KirkStephan said:

It’s been done for a few years now actually not bad at all either. 

I know but it's still in the beginning stages and a few years is a bit long don't you think . I don't remember since when you could register but that's not been a few years yet . They have been busy for a few years talking about it that's right but the actual legalization hasn't begun that long ago . 

6 hours ago, webfact said:

For the benefit of the government.

 

and .............. ??????

39 minutes ago, patman30 said:

i thought they just legalized Kratom a few weeks ago ?

IIRC from what wifey told me, but could be LIT

correct that, after looking myself
it just looks like gov will soon be able to "legally" produce, sell and export,
and will still criminalize anyone else that engages in the activity

But it's decriminalized for users?