rooster59 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Bangkok air pollution at unsafe levels By The Nation Air pollution in Bangkok's 38 districts hit dangerous levels on Saturday morning with PM2.5 (particulate matter less than 2.5 micrometres in diameter) readings coming in at 39 to 72 micrograms per cubic metre (μg/m3), the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration's Air Quality and Noise Management Division reported. Thailand’s standard for safe levels of PM2.5 is 50 μg/m3, though the World Health Organisation sets it at 25 μg/m3. People, especially children and the elderly in areas where PM2.5 pollution is bad, have been advised to stay indoors and monitor their health. As of 7am, PM2.5 was at dangerous levels in Nong Khaem, Thawee Watthana, Khlong San, Bang Khen, Bangkok Yai, Bang Khun Thian, Pathumwan, Taling Chan, Phasi Charoen, Bangkok Noi, Samphanthawong, Phra Nakhon, Chatuchak, Sai Mai, Prawet, Lak Si, Bueng Kum, Sathorn, Bang Khae, Bang Bon, Nong Chok, Thung Khru, Yannawa, Don Muang, Chom Thong, Bang Sue, Pom Prap Sattru Phai, Thonburi, Wang Thonglang, Bang Na, Phaya Thai, Khlong Sam Wa, Lat Krabang, Phra Khanong, Din Daeng, Khlong Toei, Dusit and Minburi. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30399496 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-12-13 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Hardly 'news' these days. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarteso Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 And here we go again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC 71 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Tarteso said: And here we go again. ...........And Again ???? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garzhe Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Pattaya and Bangkok 10.00 am this morning. What are we in for when the burning starts next year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garzhe Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Pattaya air 10.00 am today. What are we in for when the burning starts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scot123 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 This is the kind of headline all the hi so, big spending tourists are looking for when booking their holidays. They just love smog and dicing with death breathing in pollution... Dream on!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Seems crop Burning profits for a few are more important than everyone's health..yet again, yet another year. The BS government health department is telling everyone this is because everyone is staying in Bangkok this weekend. Lol. Goodbye Thailand we put our health first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 7 hours ago, rooster59 said: Bangkok air pollution at unsafe levels Perhaps one day soon???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Justgrazing Posted December 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2020 12 hours ago, rooster59 said: Thailand’s standard for safe levels of PM2.5 is 50 μg/m3, though the World Health Organisation sets it at 25 μg/m3. Just need to raise their safe limit again by a 1/3 then problem solved .. ( joking ) No surprise that this re'occurs every year .. there'll be more talk and token gestures but nothing fundamental will change so the same hand wringing will occur next year .. and the year after .. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 If the real health impact was definitively measurable it would help. But like all low level pollution cases over history ot never seems to shake people into reality. Except maybe when people glow green. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 They are expecting a record rice harvest this season. I wonder if there's a connection? ???????????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Elkski said: If the real health impact was definitively measurable it would help. But like all low level pollution cases over history ot never seems to shake people into reality. Except maybe when people glow green. Or their lungs fail as happened to a friend of mine, a long term Bangkok resident who made no effort at self-protection from pollution. The PM2.5 in my bedroom right now is 000 according to my air tester and is a result of running my air purifier on (even) low for most of the day. So I have the relative luxury of breathing very clean air while I watch the RTAQ (Bangkok) and AQI (Klong Toei) sites. Should I feel sorry for the children who are now sleeping and breathing 'Unhealthy' level air because their parents...? Don't get started. My ignorant landlord has two young grandchildren living with him and believes in 'open windows' and burns josh paper regularly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 For the record (This was three hours ago. PM2.5 is now 176 and, BTW, those paper surgical/medical masks will not protect from this level of pollution - they weren't designed to do so) Sheltering in place, ideally with an HEPA air purifier running, and wearing an N100 respirator mask when outside is just about the only viable answer, IMO.: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldfun Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 The solution this year was sensors & info for all to know pm2.5 levels so why do anyone feel disappointed with no root cause action? You want more air spray? Free masks? Not happy so move (south) or to another country which clean air policy you can accept ???? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pique Dard Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) On 12/12/2020 at 11:31 PM, rooster59 said: Bangkok air pollution at unsafe levels when was it at safe levels to begin with? Edited December 14, 2020 by Pique Dard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Yes and the locals were out excersize in it this evening. Healthy, healthy. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry55 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 And it doesn't seem to becoming from neighboring countries as they quite often claim. Apart from India that is. BKK looks worse than CM right now.https://www.accuweather.com/en/th/bangkok/318849/air-quality-index/318849 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazbodner Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 32 minutes ago, DirtyHarry55 said: And it doesn't seem to becoming from neighboring countries as they quite often claim. Apart from India that is. BKK looks worse than CM right now.https://www.accuweather.com/en/th/bangkok/318849/air-quality-index/318849 Yes, pointless blaming anyone else. This is Bangkok's own making... From this morning: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) According to DirtyHarry55's accuweather posting, it appears to be concentrated to the direct west of Saraburi, which is to the NNW of Bangkok. But I don't see very many fires in the FIRMS 24-hours data (which shows only the fires' presences, which, in this case seem to be directly north of Bangkok, I believe, and not the pollution level produced by the fires, BTW). It's a 24-hour display and I'm not absolutely sure when they reset the data/display. The RTAQ 48-hour historic tracking showed that from last Friday and through the weekend it was cyclic - intensifying to unhealthy in the late evening and through the early morning and then returning to moderate by noon or 1300. https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map (map has to be positioned over the Bay of Bangkok and the focus area set manually) Edited December 14, 2020 by MaxYakov 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimbo2014 Posted December 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2020 Enjoy your beach holiday in Thailand. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaiDong Posted December 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2020 On 12/13/2020 at 4:37 AM, Scot123 said: This is the kind of headline all the hi so, big spending tourists are looking for when booking their holidays. They just love smog and dicing with death breathing in pollution... Dream on!!! Exactly. Even the dreamers in this land can't possibly convince themselves that tourists would rather come here than Vietnam where the air is 'Excellent' on these charts, or could they? Every day I'm out and about around Thawi Watthana on my scooter, and every day I see dozens of large vehicles pumping out black smoke from their exhausts, but I think the main problem comes from the pickups. These intentionally tuned and noisy pickups ENJOY painting the road with black muck! On my way into the city from TW, there's often a police block, I assume they're testing either noise levels or emissions, but it's obviously not enough. Something has to happen, things have got to change, and the sooner the rich & powerful realise that they're not immune from serious health implications, the better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 For reference regarding stubble burning in neighboring Cambodia Khmer Times):- December 14, 2020 Ministry of Environment issues ban on burning rice straw to avoid air pollution Environment Ministry bans burning rice straw and garbage in rural areas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiDong Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 39 minutes ago, Burma Bill said: For reference regarding stubble burning in neighboring Cambodia Khmer Times):- December 14, 2020 Ministry of Environment issues ban on burning rice straw to avoid air pollution Environment Ministry bans burning rice straw and garbage in rural areas. Let's hope it is enforced. My cynical side says it'll be enforced on those who can't pay up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiDong Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 The people in the distance have been burning every day, even when the air they can see with their own eyes - right in front of them - is blue with diesel smoke and other peoples' burnt rubbish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yom Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 21 hours ago, Elkski said: Except maybe when people glow green... ...or * when themselves or their family members get out of breathe * landing in an ICU * die. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiDong Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Yom said: ...or * when themselves or their family members get out of breathe * landing in an ICU * die. The problem with this is that it can take years, or even decades to manifest itself into serious illness, so the real consequences of this problem are easily swept under the bamboo mat ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yom Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, MaiDong said: it can take years Yes, you're right. But... I have been short of breath since Saturday 3 a.m. That night severe pain while lying on the left side and on the back, breathing a bit deeper or coughing. This has remained till today. ER and laboratory already done. Will see the Pulmonologist tomorrow. ***** By the way, you might find some facts to PM2.5 since Jan 15 2020 in the Chiang Rai Forum - The very northern part of Thailand, Chiang Rai, Phayao, Nan, Phrae and surrounding areas. Edited December 14, 2020 by Yom 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) Central Thailand is starting to resemble India or Bangladesh. AQICN lists Thailand in the World Rankings as #4 behind Palestine, Bangladesh and India this morning: Edited December 14, 2020 by MaxYakov 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiDong Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Yom said: Yes, you're right. But... I have been short of breath since Saturday 3 a.m. That night severe pain while lying on the left side and on the back, breathing a bit deeper or coughing. This has remained till today. ER and laboratory already done. Will see the Pulmonologist tomorrow. ***** By the way, you might find some facts to PM2.5 since Jan 15 2020 in the Chiang Rai Forum - The very northern part of Thailand, Chiang Rai, Phayao, Nan, Phrae and surrounding areas. I sympathise fully! I'm asthmatic and I'm short of breath despite staying indoors most of the day, and only going out for short bursts to the post office and to buy dinner - always wearing a proper PM2.5 mask. My comment was more in respect of scientific/medical proof of the consequences of this current state of air quality here. The authorities are very quick to set up barbed wire road blocks and send troops on to the streets of the capital, but less keen to enforce road stops for emissions checks, slightly warped priorities if you ask me... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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