EU's Barnier says: just hours left for a Brexit trade deal

[CorpusChristie]

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

To be fair a rather oblique reference to the numbers of Turks claimed to be ready to swamp the UK if we didn't vote for Brexit.

 

Part of Project Fear?

 

  I do think that it was well known that theres little chance of Turkey joining the E.U anytime soon 

[CorpusChristie]

56 minutes ago, david555 said:

He said: “The position is unchanged. There are problems. It is vital everybody understands that the UK has got to be able to control its own laws completely and also that we have got to be able to control our own fisheries.

 

   That is quite a reasonable request .

Would the E.U be willing to come to an agreement, if the E.U had to abide by UK laws ?

[luckyluke]

24 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

It is well known that the EU runs a protection racket to artificially keep prices high

Didn't know that.

Any links where I can get more info about the subject?

[david555]

10 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   That is quite a reasonable request .

Would the E.U be willing to come to an agreement, if the E.U had to abide by UK laws ?

He thinks that trick would work once more to change a signed agreement after ?....besides now U.K. is screaming injustice as Macron take control of FRANCE borders ...sound familiar....not ...? ???? " taking control of own borders "..... U.K. think twice before you push further ....???? 

[CorpusChristie]

1 minute ago, david555 said:

He thinks that trick would work once more to change a signed agreement after ?....besides now U.K. is screaming injustice as Macron take control of FRANCE borders ...sound familiar....not ...? ???? " taking control of own borders "..... U.K. think twice before you push further ....???? 

 

  The UK is NOT screaming injustice about Macron taking control of French borders .

Another in the long list of false claims .

(Are you referring to France wanting to take other Countries fish in other Countries waters ? )

[david555]

21 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   That is quite a reasonable request .

Would the E.U be willing to come to an agreement, if the E.U had to abide by UK laws ?

Exactly same from E.U. side they ask for access to single market to abide by E.U. laws ,including the ECJ .... fair enough i would say .. Hello U.K. .....!

Edited December 22, 2020 by david555

[CorpusChristie]

Just now, david555 said:

Exactly from E.U. side they ask for access to single market to abide by E.U. laws ,including the ECJ .... fair enough i would say .. Hello U.K. .....!

 

  Hi David, "Hello" back from the UK , Good afternoon 

[vinny41]

7 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

Didn't know that.

Any links where I can get more info about the subject?

The conclusion is that the EU does indeed protect some of its producers, especially farmers, from outside competition, although the EU's single market means they are fully exposed to competition from within the EU.

The EU can't claim to be the world's freest trader, but on many measures it's toward the more liberal end of the spectrum.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44291103

[david555]

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  The UK is NOT screaming injustice about Macron taking control of French borders .

Another in the long list of false claims .

(Are you referring to France wanting to take other Countries fish in other Countries waters ? )

Read you U.K. newspapers ....

[welovesundaysatspace]

10 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

The conclusion is that the EU does indeed protect some of its producers, especially farmers, from outside competition, although the EU's single market means they are fully exposed to competition from within the EU.

The EU can't claim to be the world's freest trader, but on many measures it's toward the more liberal end of the spectrum.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44291103

So your own source says it’s pretty much the opposite of the “protection racket to artificially keep prices high” that you claimed. 

[transam]

14 minutes ago, david555 said:

Read you U.K. newspapers ....

I don't follow UK rag individual column writers.....????

[david555]

 (From his own ranks it starts ....????  )

 

 

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1374830/Brexit-news-latest-update-northern-Ireland-protocol-ben-habib
Johnson brutally ripped apart over handling of Brexit

BREXITEER Ben Habib has issued a scathing attack on Boris Johnson for how he has navigated the UK's departure from the EU.

By BILL MCLOUGHLIN
PUBLISHED: 08:00, Tue, Dec 22, 2020 | UPDATED: 08:40, Tue, Dec 22, 2020

In particular, the former Brexit Party MEP claimed the public did not vote to leave by 52 percent to 48 percent in 2016 to have left Northern Ireland “largely in the EU”. Speaking to Express.co.uk, Mr Habib claimed the future ramifications for Northern Ireland will only be realised in the years to come following Brexit. Not only did Mr Habib hit out at the “annexation” of Northern Ireland but he also claimed the Prime Minister has “deceived” British voters over the assurances of an oven-ready trade deal.

 

 

Mr Habib said: “I don’t think people understand what’s happened in Northern Ireland.

“Over time, people will realise what an awful thing has happened with Northern Ireland.

“We did not vote for Northern Ireland to be annexed.

“We didn’t vote for a border down the Irish Sea, we didn’t vote for any of that.

[david555]

Just now, transam said:

I don't follow UK rag individual column writers.....????

Why not .... you would fit in perfect  

[vinny41]

3 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

So your own source says it’s pretty much the opposite of the “protection racket to artificially keep prices high” that you claimed. 

outside the eu they operate a protection racket within the eu they can't

The conclusion is that the EU does indeed protect some of its producers, especially farmers, from outside competition, although the EU's single market means they are fully exposed to competition from within the EU.

The EU can't claim to be the world's freest trader,

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44291103

 

[CorpusChristie]

14 minutes ago, david555 said:

Read you U.K. newspapers ....

 

  Yeah, right OK, you write whatever you want and I will run around looking and searching for sources for what you write .

  Write anything you like , and I will be off searching for evidence to back up what you say

[luckyluke]

17 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

The conclusion is that the EU does indeed protect some of its producers,

"Is the European Union a 'protectionist racket'?

It's an allegation that some supporters of Brexit have been making for some time."

 

That's the first lines of the article.

 

I will certainly reed the rest later on, but not now.

Time to give a rest to Thai Visa.

[transam]

5 minutes ago, david555 said:

Why not .... you would fit in perfect  

Fit into what, may I ask...?..

[vinny41]

Irish beef may potentially have to compete directly with South American beef' - analyst

However, in a no deal scenario, countries like Brazil and Argentina will have equal access into the UK beef market. 

"Until now they were priced out by the EU external tariff policy, making their beef uncompetitive. 

"However, South American countries have a significantly lower cost of production than the UK and Ireland. 

https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/beef/irish-beef-may-potentially-have-to-compete-directly-with-south-american-beef-analyst-37946288.html

[david555]

4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Yeah, right OK, you write whatever you want and I will run around looking and searching for sources for what you write .

  Write anything you like , and I will be off searching for evidence to back up what you say

 one here for instance .... and further look yourself  for them if interested 

 

Brexit news: Fury as French official uses ‘irresponsible’ channel closure in Brexit swipe | UK | News | Express.co.uk

‘Irresponsible’ France uses border FURY to take Brexit swipe - ‘Could have helped!’

A FRENCH official has claimed the nation "could have helped" the UK battle the new Covid-19 strain if it hadn't voted for Brexit as the two nations battle over the shutdown of the French border.

By EDWARD BROWNE

PUBLISHED: 06:03, Tue, Dec 22, 2020 | UPDATED: 06:05, Tue, Dec 22, 202

[CorpusChristie]

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

 one here for instance .... and further look yourself  for them if interested 

 

Brexit news: Fury as French official uses ‘irresponsible’ channel closure in Brexit swipe | UK | News | Express.co.uk

‘Irresponsible’ France uses border FURY to take Brexit swipe - ‘Could have helped!’

A FRENCH official has claimed the nation "could have helped" the UK battle the new Covid-19 strain if it hadn't voted for Brexit as the two nations battle over the shutdown of the French border.

By EDWARD BROWNE

PUBLISHED: 06:03, Tue, Dec 22, 2020 | UPDATED: 06:05, Tue, Dec 22, 202

 

   They were not "screaming injustice about France taking control of its borders"

I cannot be bother to explain what the article meant , but the article simple stated they thought the move to close the border was "unnecessary "

[david555]

14 minutes ago, transam said:

Fit into what, may I ask...?..

*

Edited December 22, 2020 by david555

[transam]

1 minute ago, david555 said:

 

I haven't a clue what you are on about..........????

[david555]

4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   They were not "screaming injustice about France taking control of its borders"

I cannot be bother to explain what the article meant , but the article simple stated they thought the move to close the border was "unnecessary "

Diplomatic answer....... but don't bother.... let just things run his course 

[Kwasaki]

On 12/19/2020 at 4:50 PM, puipuitom said:

One of the stupidities of the EU: GIVE money. better: let others have a LOAN from the EU, even at 0,1% and pay-back in a hundred years. Or like the eternal assignats of Napoleon, see Assignat. Then every nation is remembered every year to the debt to the EU and what they thank the EU.

Fior Turkey: they now have a president who hates the EU, but.. based on just a 52 % of the votes. Might change next election completely, especially when the 2016 Turkish coup d'état attempt will be examined.

Turkey will elbow the EU the same as the USA they deal with Russia now. 

[Kwasaki]

Just hour's left !!!  Has EU's clock stopped, is UK released yet.? 

[david555]

8 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Just hour's left !!!  Has EU's clock stopped, is UK released yet.? 

Funny remark ,....as this post is running a while  hence title not recent anymore on today .????

 

 Sincerely hoping all ends very soon , i favor the brexiteers "clean cut no deal " .... but for other than their reasons  

anyway a win win for 2 opposite opinion's 

Edited December 22, 2020 by david555

[Bruntoid]

9 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Just hour's left !!!  Has EU's clock stopped, is UK released yet.? 

Boris needs more time to give the EU more fish - I think he’s currently up to 66% PLUS compensation for the missing rest (from a position of not budging from 25%) 

 

Excellent work Boris - you’ve sure got those Sun readers fooled!

[welovesundaysatspace]

41 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

outside the eu they operate a protection racket within the eu they can't

If it’s outside the EU, it’s in a non-EU country. In a non-EU country, only that country’s government and laws can operate something — so it’s not the EU operating it. 

 

41 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

The conclusion is that the EU does indeed protect some of its producers, especially farmers, from outside competition, although the EU's single market means they are fully exposed to competition from within the EU.

The EU can't claim to be the world's freest trader,

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44291103

 

Yes. Pretty much the opposite of the “protection racket to artificially keep prices high” that you falsely claimed. 

[david555]

 (But.... But ....Boris said he had a very good call with Macron .... all would be cleared in hours ....would Boris dare to ly to the British people on his last PR session ...???????????? )

 

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1375487/Macron-France-border-blockade-lorries-stuck-in-Kent-Eurotunnel-Dover-latest-update

 

Macron refuses to lift blockade: Eurotunnel to bring 2000 lorries to UK but take NONE out
MORE chaos is expected to hit the British border today as lorries head into the UK with border restrictions still in place - and Emmanuel Macron refusing to lift the blockade.

By DARREN HUNT
PUBLISHED: 09:47, Tue, Dec 22, 2020 | UPDATED: 09:54, Tue, Dec 22, 2020

 

France shut the border with the UK over fears surrounding a new super-contagious strain of coronavirus that has emerged in the south east of Britain.

But, the decision has triggered huge tailbacks of lorries, with Kent effectively “becoming a lorry park”.

 

The situation is feared to only get worse as ITV’s Robert Peston wrote: “Eurotunnel expects to bring 2000 lorries into the UK and take none out today. Kent is becoming quite a lorry park”. Crisis talks with France will continue on Tuesday in an attempt to resume trade flows.It came amid warnings that the border needed to be running again by Wednesday to avoid food supply issues.

More than 1,500 lorries are backed up in Kent, unable to make the crossing to France.

Edited December 22, 2020 by david555

[vinny41]

8 minutes ago, Bruntoid said:

Boris needs more time to give the EU more fish - I think he’s currently up to 66% PLUS compensation for the missing rest (from a position of not budging from 25%) 

 

Excellent work Boris - you’ve sure got those Sun readers fooled!

It would appear the reports in the media are incorrect

A Government source hit back against reports, first published by Bloomberg, that the UK was prepared to accept an EU reduction in the value of the fish it catches in UK water of around 33 per cent, saying: "It's not right, it's not the offer and the EU are still miles off what we need."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/21/pm-plays-downprospect-imminent-brexit-deal-uk-eu-seen-moving/

 

The media was reporting from someone that isn't attending the discussions and isn't even in Goverment

Here’s a Brexit compromise on fish — and both sides would be wise to take it

Raoul Ruparel, who correctly predicted the landing zone for last year’s Brexit deal, says a trade deal is within reach.

https://www.politico.eu/article/opinion-heres-a-compromise-on-fish-post-brexit-and-both-sides-would-be-wise-to-take-it/