2 minutes ago, sandyf said:

You avoided the question of popularity.

Sadly I think it will rocket...we are talking about your average voter remember.

2 hours ago, vinny41 said:

I see the EU had grand plans to double the budget of their Erasmus program  from 14.7 billion euros to 30 billion wonder the EU was keen that the UK  to retain Erasmus membership.

As everyone knows the EU never reduces its budget or scales back it grandeur plans even when they lose a major player  so I guess the remaining 27 members will have to pick up the extra cost

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/budget-may2018-erasmusplus_en_0.pdf

Boris said it's being replaced with something better that enables people to study in places worldwide including in the ????????.

29 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Not a snowball's

Bob Geldoff got one..............that's a point I wonder if he knows it's Brexmas time at all?

Edited December 25, 20205 yr by vogie

3 minutes ago, sandyf said:

You avoided the question of popularity.

 

  You only need to get about 100 000 sales/downloads to get to Number 1 in the charts .

Hardly makes it popular , with 50 million odd people NOT buying/downloading the song 

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  You only need to get about 100 000 sales/downloads to get to Number 1 in the charts .

Hardly makes it popular , with 50 million odd people NOT buying/downloading the song 

If it has sold the most....by definition it is popular...surely?

4 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Boris said

555

5 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

If it has sold the most....by definition it is popular...surely?

 

  Popular with people who dont like Boris , not popular with the Nation as a whole 

Well as already mentioned Boris was not leaving with out a deal which no doubt will <deleted> off quite a few Brexit leavers

Who don't care about the hit the country would have taken jobs wise plus a low pound ect

Accept the deal is done let's get on with it look forward to a prosperous New Year 2021

7 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Popular with people who dont like Boris , not popular with the Nation as a whole 

So if 48% of the UK population vote for Boris  .......Boris is only popular with the people who like him?

24 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Is that French for Christmas ?

If so, Merry Erasmus to you .

I think it means Xmas has been

rubbed out this year. ????

41 minutes ago, Old Dissenter said:

The Government said the deal means pensioners who retire to the EU will get an uprating of state pensions.

If this is the case it will blow their 'no new agreements since 1981' out of the water. Lets hope HMG finally correct the 'frozen' fiasco at the same time. I can't really see how they can refuse any longer.

Edited December 25, 20205 yr by evadgib

6 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

So if 48% of the UK population vote for Boris  .......Boris is only popular with the people who like him?

 

  Yes .

Same as that

4 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

I see you are now replying to my posts. Still didn't get an apology.

 

Anyway the UK has left the EU. It seems there has been a compromise.

 

So you and the other EU lovers will be happy.

 

I feel there are difficult times ahead for the EU.

Said the tail about the dog.

5 minutes ago, evadgib said:

If this is the case it will blow their 'no new agreements since 1981' out of the water. Lets hope HMG finally correct the 'frozen' fiasco at the same time. I can't really see how they can refuse any longer.

UK pensions in EEA countries always did get the yearly rise.

1 minute ago, overherebc said:

UK pensions in EEA countries always did get the yearly rise.

That has no relevance to my point.

Is this what success looks like.....?

7 minutes ago, evadgib said:

That has no relevance to my point.

Replied to wrong post Sorry.

I wouldn't hold my breath on it being changed to include more countries.

The excuse for a small rise next time and 'can't afford to include other countries' will be having to sort out the economy because so much has been borrowed/spent on Covid.

One of several from St Nigel overnight:

 

57 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

If it has sold the most....by definition it is popular...surely?

Most people don't buy but get it for free.

An off topic troll post dragging Mr Trump in the topic has been removed

6 hours ago, Hi from France said:

Another question was policing and fighting terrorism, this deal is a serious setback too

 

 

 

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-britain-will-be-less-secure-without-access-to-shared-data-12172399

 

So what's the plan? 

 

Why don't you wait and read it?

His (Johnson's) optimism contrasted with the expectations of the government’s own independent forecaster, the Office for Budget Responsibility, which expects Brexit to shave 4% off GDP in the medium term.

 

But of course this is easily discounted as being wrong/project fear/yet to be proved/don't agree/plain rubbish.

 

4%...who really cares?

Edited December 25, 20205 yr by Surelynot

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

They already do..so no change?

It strengthens the case for extending the upgrades worldwide including those who get the British state pension in Thailand.

UVL in quiet, measured tones....

 

This whole debate has always been about sovereignty. But we should cut through the sound bites and ask ourselves what sovereignty actually means in the 21st century.

 

“For me, it is about being able to seamlessly do work, travel, study and do business in 27 countries. It is about pooling our strength and speaking together in a world full of great powers. And in a time of crisis, it is about pulling each other up. Instead of trying to get back to your feet, alone.

 

BJ

 

**** you, we won.

1 minute ago, Old Dissenter said:

It strengthens the case for extending the upgrades worldwide including those who get the British state pension in Thailand.

Dream on...but nice thought...all for it.

32 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Most people don't buy but get it for free.

 

  We all end up paying one way or the other 

5 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

It sounds like a fudge to me, with most everything kicked down the road.

 

They're waiting for the leavers to die so they can have another referendum.

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Where are you living? Thailand?

How about a complete break and going back to the UK? Forever. No holiday to any other country anymore. And don't you dare to buy anything from those foreigners. Enjoy your sovereignty!

 

That doesn't even begin to make sense. You can't go to another country in the world if your home country is not a member of the EU? What is your home country?

36 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

independent forecaster, the Office for Budget Responsibility, which expects Brexit to shave 4% off GDP in the medium term.

Are these the same forecasters who predicted a 10% contraction of the UK economy if Brexit passed or different ones? It seems like "operation fear" is still not dead.

So a hard Brexit and a deal, everybody got what he wanted. Now time to move on and get on with it.