You can apply the same process to humans.

 

Humans learned over time - eat this its ok - eat that you die.

 

Was that random ? or intelligent ?   Human intelligence comes from making the wrong random decisions and learning.

 

We are to Planet Earth a virus.........one which is currently killing its host as we mutate and thrive and reproduce.

So some of you are trying to give a single cell virus thinking abilities.  Maybe you have lived on lala land for to long

10 hours ago, ukrules said:

It's strange that they've decided to go down this route of allowing the virus to spread en masse all over the country.

 

Still, what do I care, it's their country - they can do what they want.

Trouble is Prayut stated there won't be a lockdown a week ago. Now there dammed if they do and dammed if they don't. The question remains will he have egg on his face anytime soon while people still remember what he said. Looks to me as if they will let the pandemic rage rather than upset the big man.

9 minutes ago, pokerface1 said:

Trouble is Prayut stated there won't be a lockdown a week ago. Now there dammed if they do and dammed if they don't. The question remains will he have egg on his face anytime soon while people still remember what he said. Looks to me as if they will let the pandemic rage rather than upset the big man.

Prayuth does what he's told regardless of what he's previously said.

 

Isn't this the guy who once said 'There will be no coup...' just before the coup?

I agree but the correct numbers will never be posted. so expect a few hundred at least. They will follow the China model.

5 hours ago, RR2020 said:

Virus mutate..............

 

They mutate when under pressure.  A virus does not want to kill its host..........it has to find the balance to thrive in the host and spread.

who China?

Educate yourself people. Enough of the misinformation.

 

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdUOA?Si

 

https://www.percentagecal.com/answer/500000-is-what-percent-of-7800000000

A helpful hint to the Thai govt - get the vaccine and get the population vaccinated. After months of control of Covid the Thai population is fresh meat for the virus to spread quickly 

A little insight to the reality of  vaccine availability. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03370-6

1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

I agree but the correct numbers will never be posted. so expect a few hundred at least. They will follow the China model.

Exactly. Lying suits them anyway. 

 

Even the focus on the outbreak being centered around the market and not the Thai whores who came back from their illegal sex work in Myanmar is just like the China model. China blamed the start on the market when it was likely the lab. 

Blame the people when the problem as always been with the leaders. Payoff at the borders have always been a common problem with or without the virus it was a matter of time before a number got through now that it has gotten through only a hint of finding the guilty one's instead deflect the real problem but he is a bit right better be more careful.????

At least the Thai government hasn't turned wearing masks into a political issue like some countries have . . . actually only one country (mine):  

Trumplandia.  

Edited December 29, 20205 yr by dgwooster

14 hours ago, ukrules said:

It's strange that they've decided to go down this route of allowing the virus to spread en masse all over the country.

 

Still, what do I care, it's their country - they can do what they want.

No one allowed it, it happened. You perhaps can put blame on those who allegedly allowed large numbers of untested immigrants enter the country I suppose but not the government as a whole.

we hear of clusters and outbreaks,must be dealt with so how does allowing huge nos of people travel do that,free hiway tolls etc.rayongs locked down.corruption and lies are the root cause behind this,the people bribing their way over the northern border,the gambling in a country where the law says its not possible and the abuse of the immigrant worker leads to a mass outbreak in the slave districts.kharma?sounds like it.what of the economy it will crash more and no govt support for people or small business.buy vaccs.the moneys there,use the sub money or.......well we all know

Sorry to say, Thailand stuck its head in the sand thinking they didn't have a virus problem and become complacent, decided not to mass test for the virus, instead waited for people to get sick, only problem is that 90% or more of cases are Asymptomatic and don't realize that they have the virus, so carry on as normal and spread it everywhere.

It seems some countries just don't get it. The country is already in an Economic mess and doesn't need a second wave to hit.

1 hour ago, Dumbastheycome said:

A little insight to the reality of  vaccine availability. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03370-6

Excellent article. Clearly why Thailand has both partnered with AstraZenica to manufacture and is developing their own.

 

But on that chart, would you really want a vaccine named Wuhan?

 

Edited December 29, 20205 yr by rabas

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Dr Taweesilp urged people to refrain from socialising in order for the number of new cases to “run flat” rather than spike.

Yeah, like that's gonna happen voluntarily over new year.

Even with places closed families will join together, or with close friends and that's enough to spark it all off again.

I suspect mid-January we will see the numbers & areas increasing substantially.

15 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Expect a bad hangover. 

Lasting for 6 months or more.

14 hours ago, misterjames said:

What about all that gloating about how well they handled covid compared to the dirty farrang countries? 

 

I guess it was just luck then!

I think the luck just ran out !

2 minutes ago, DUNROAMIN said:

Sorry to say, Thailand stuck its head in the sand thinking they didn't have a virus problem and become complacent, decided not to mass test for the virus, instead waited for people to get sick, only problem is that 90% or more of cases are Asymptomatic and don't realize that they have the virus, so carry on as normal and spread it everywhere.

It seems some countries just don't get it. The country is already in an Economic mess and doesn't need a second wave to hit.

 

I understand it's confusing between asymptomatic cases and asymptomatic when tested,  but I hope people stop repeating 90%. The number of true asymptomatic cases worldwide is widely reported as about 17% to 20%.  The other 80% eventually develop systems. 

 

14 hours ago, Guderian said:

Well. if they're that scared then why on earth haven't they cancelled all New Year parties and travel, instead of just a few headline events? The messages here are becoming as mixed and muddled as they are back in the UK, and look what a mess things are there. The government shouldn't be asking people to follow the rules, it should be forcing them to, as it did back in April. Come on, Prayut, have you lost your mojo? 

If you haven't noticed, it seems that each government organization doesn't coordinate with the others. They work at cross purposes. You would think a General would be good at coordinating action. Or at least hope so.

 

Just like one group woos tourists, another creates obstacles to tourism.

 

Your government at work.

1 hour ago, Dumbastheycome said:

A little insight to the reality of  vaccine availability. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03370-6

Vaccines are no where in sight in Thailand. Procuring them takes a little foresight, and kudos to Vietnam on having some of that.

 

But at least Thailand has submarines on the way, and the world's most expensive flying toilet. 

Just now, elgenon said:

If you haven't noticed, it seems that each government organization doesn't coordinate with the others. They work at cross purposes. You would think a General would be good at coordinating action. Or at least hope so.

 

Just like one group woos tourists, another creates obstacles to tourism.

 

Your government at work.

Left hand, right hand comes to mind ????????

15 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Expect a bad hangover. 

Yes!! Because the trouble is the Bangkokians will travel to the provinces with no outbreaks and take it there!! (Or here where allegedly we have had none.......yet) ????????????????????????????????

13 hours ago, Nout said:

8 months later there is a different perspective. There is still time for a lockdown and other containment strategies. Not everyone believes in blanket lockdowns but here we know when given government directions the people will cooperate unlike the UK and USA.

Fact is if it spreads it proves they arent 'cooperating '

The people are already scared enough, so this kind of extreme scare mongering is not helpful, on any level. I believe the doctor should be arrested, and locked up for such erratic and alarmist behavior, and an attempt to incite panic amongst the public. Not helpful, on any level. 

15 hours ago, ukrules said:

It's strange that they've decided to go down this route of allowing the virus to spread en masse all over the country.

 

Still, what do I care, it's their country - they can do what they want.

Just like every other country in the world.

Nobody ever gets it right all of the time but Thailand has a better track record with covid than most.

At the end of the day the real responsibility lies with people, after 9 months no one can say they don't know what is required, they shouldn't need the government to force them into anything.

Is Temperature checking really very effective at finding the infected?
Yesterday I had my temperature checked 4 times whilst driving around some Amphur's have set up road checkpoints to measure

everyone's temp going into there district. If every Amphur did that it would make traveling around very laborious.

 

17 minutes ago, DirtyHarry55 said:

Yesterday I had my temperature checked 4 times whilst driving around some Amphur's have set up road checkpoints to measure

everyone's temp going into there district. If every Amphur did that it would make traveling around very laborious.

Effectively reducing the number of people on the roads and forcing them to stay home. GOOD. 

Edited December 29, 20205 yr by Keesters

Longway, and myself think the same, if he had wrote that a few weeks ago he would have been banded from the forum, but like with all things with humans the truth comes out in the end, amen