4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Well done Lewis Hamilton.

 

 

I recall very well his first appearance in Formula 1 racing, not just his clearly evident  talent but the overt racism amongst white F1 followers who really did not like seeing Lewis winning.

 

It had a precedent in Tiger Lewis, where white fans of golf didn’t like seeing him win either.

 

As others have stated, the same is true in soccer but also on the tennis courts.

 

Hamilton has had a long hard journey to the top of his sport, his achievements speak for themselves. He richly deserves this recognition.

 

...

As for Lewis expressing his political views, take note of the views expressed by those objecting, a pattern exists.

 

 

You seem to recall/know a lot, can you give us your ringside experience regarding Lewis and Tiger Woods...?

 

For me, Sport, BLM, and politics should not mix....  

BLM gets you a knighthood? Pathetic.

25 minutes ago, transam said:

You seem to recall/know a lot, can you give us your ringside experience regarding Lewis and Tiger Woods...?

 

For me, Sport, BLM, and politics should not mix....  

Lewis Hamilton disagrees.

19 minutes ago, spiekerjozef said:

BLM gets you a knighthood? Pathetic.

That’s a rather pathetic assumption.

I have no issue with Hamilton receiving recognition for his contribution to his sport.

 

But I do not think it is right for anyone who has turned their back on the UK and not contributing to the economy of their home country by living in another country for the purpose of tax evasion should not be honored by the country they have deserted.

 

If he wants recognition from his home country he should live there and pay tax like the rest of us.

 

 

 

 

 

He will fit right into the system well done ????

 

Hamilton appears to have used shell companies in the British Virgin Islands (BVI), the Isle of Man and Guernsey to avoid the entire £3.3m VAT bill triggered when he imported his £16.5m red Bombardier aircraft into England from Canada in 2013. Hamilton set up another Isle of Man company to purchase a €1.7m motorhome that he uses at racetracks. No VAT appears to have been paid on that purchase either. Hamilton denies using shell companies, and says the Manx entities were part of his businesses.

The British racing driver, born and raised in Stevenage, takes numerous steps to shelter his £130m fortune. He is contracted to Mercedes, with whom he secured his fourth world championship last month, via a Guernsey company. He holds a Malta company for image rights, and has lived as a tax exile since 2007, first in Switzerland and now in Monaco.

1 hour ago, sammieuk1 said:

He will fit right into the system well done ????

 

Hamilton appears to have used shell companies in the British Virgin Islands (BVI), the Isle of Man and Guernsey to avoid the entire £3.3m VAT bill triggered when he imported his £16.5m red Bombardier aircraft into England from Canada in 2013. Hamilton set up another Isle of Man company to purchase a €1.7m motorhome that he uses at racetracks. No VAT appears to have been paid on that purchase either. Hamilton denies using shell companies, and says the Manx entities were part of his businesses.

The British racing driver, born and raised in Stevenage, takes numerous steps to shelter his £130m fortune. He is contracted to Mercedes, with whom he secured his fourth world championship last month, via a Guernsey company. He holds a Malta company for image rights, and has lived as a tax exile since 2007, first in Switzerland and now in Monaco.

Good for him. Only an idiot would not minimise his tax.

Love to know just how much in tax this man has paid in the UK in the last 3 years ?

7 hours ago, mtraveler said:

 

You're absolutely right.  All lives SHOULD matter.  The problem is that up until now, they haven't.  A quick look at history would indicate that Black lives have not mattered.  "Black Lives Matter" really is asking for the lives of Black people to matter on par with the lives of White people, not special consideration as many incorrectly claim.  

 

"Many are banging on about the same thing" because many believe it's an issue that needs addressing. 

 

Most black victims of murder in the USA are victims of other black people. The importance of human life needs to stressed to the communities that are doing the killing. Anybody committing loyalty to a self avowed Socialist organization dedicated to the overthrow of our society should be arrested not rewarded.

Congratulations Lewis. Who cares that he avoided paying taxes in the UK.......at one point it used to be you got sixpence for every pound you made.....no wonder people left and lived elsewhere. If Lewis paid through the nose you would be calling him a fool for not moving elsewhere. When he wins Silverstone or the US Grand Prix you would pay taxes in those countries, and probably the same in every country they race in. I think a number of the comments on here have racism behind them. And saying he went straight to Maclaren and Mercedes misses the point that he spent years working through karting and F2 and F3.....there was no magic ticket to the top teams, it was all done with graft and skill and practice. Nobody gives you a top seat unless they think you can produce at the top levels. Everything he and his family have achieved they deserve. Again Congratulations Sir Lewis Hamilton.

A reminder to stay on topic, please

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4 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Quelle surprise...the daily mail promoting a false narrative once more. 

yep, they never let facts get on the way of their comic book reports. 

1 hour ago, natway09 said:

Love to know just how much in tax this man has paid in the UK in the last 3 years ?

who cares, good on him if he can afford to avoid the place; I do. 

3 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

BLM gets you a knighthood? Pathetic.

 

False assumption; from the OP:

 

"The citation referred to Hamilton's sporting record and his "charitable and philanthropic contributions in the UK and overseas".

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5 hours ago, Beachcomber said:

I have no issue with Hamilton receiving recognition for his contribution to his sport.

 

But I do not think it is right for anyone who has turned their back on the UK and not contributing to the economy of their home country by living in another country for the purpose of tax evasion should not be honored by the country they have deserted.

 

If he wants recognition from his home country he should live there and pay tax like the rest of us.

 

 

 

 

 

So, if HMRC’s UK Income Tax Liabilities Statistics, published in 2019, puts Hamilton among the top 5,000 highest tax payers in the UK, you'll be happy?

 

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/prime-minister-urged-not-deny-152011350.html

13 hours ago, soi3eddie said:

 

Hamilton will have no trouble taking the knee at the investiture. Hope Her Majesty controls the sword well. 

Funnily enough, I hope she doesn't!

No doubt he is a good car driver, with a foriegn car, does not pay British tax and chooses to live  elsewhere. So a good British person he is not.

1 hour ago, Wullie Mercer said:

No doubt he is a good car driver, with a foriegn car, does not pay British tax and chooses to live  elsewhere. So a good British person he is not.

 

From the Yahoo link above...

 

HMRC’s UK Income Tax Liabilities Statistics, published in 2019, puts Hamilton among the top 5,000 highest tax payers in the UK.

3 hours ago, Wullie Mercer said:

No doubt he is a good car driver, with a foriegn car, does not pay British tax and chooses to live  elsewhere. So a good British person he is not.

You might want to read the post 2 places above yours...  

3 hours ago, Wullie Mercer said:

No doubt he is a good car driver, with a foriegn car, does not pay British tax and chooses to live  elsewhere. So a good British person he is not.

says someone on a Thai forum and maybe living in Thailand? 

21 hours ago, Beachcomber said:

I have no issue with Hamilton receiving recognition for his contribution to his sport.

 

But I do not think it is right for anyone who has turned their back on the UK and not contributing to the economy of their home country by living in another country for the purpose of tax evasion should not be honored by the country they have deserted.

 

If he wants recognition from his home country he should live there and pay tax like the rest of us.

 

 

 

 

 

wrong wrong wrong.  He pays tax on his UK interests, of which he has many,  and he drives for a team that has massive engineering  infrastructure  and therefore  jobs in the UK. People make it up as they go along.

 

Funny thing is that most people, UK or otherwise, posting on here live in Thailand and would avoid their home country's tax if they could.  Hypocrisy and jealousy are wonderful sins to have. 

Edited January 1, 20215 yr by Pilotman

On 12/31/2020 at 10:54 AM, andyg75 said:

 

Hardly a long hard journey, he came into F1 by being signed up by McLaren  and winning 21 races with them ,then got signed up by Mercedes. I’m a Hamilton fan but he never started  in a lower team then worked his way up to McLaren and Mercedes .

 

We've never seen what Hamilton can do in a slow car. Personally I doubt that his abilities match those of Fangio, Clarke or Senna to name but a few.

29 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

We've never seen what Hamilton can do in a slow car. Personally I doubt that his abilities match those of Fangio, Clarke or Senna to name but a few.

Do you think he just walked into the top job?

On 12/31/2020 at 10:54 AM, andyg75 said:

 

Hardly a long hard journey, he came into F1 by being signed up by McLaren  and winning 21 races with them ,then got signed up by Mercedes. I’m a Hamilton fan but he never started  in a lower team then worked his way up to McLaren and Mercedes .

 

Correct, McLaren saw the raw talent and he out performed his team mate Alonso, if the team had brought him in just one lap earlier he would no doubt have become World Champion in his first year of F1

52 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

We've never seen what Hamilton can do in a slow car. Personally I doubt that his abilities match those of Fangio, Clarke or Senna to name but a few.

later years at McLaren, it was the third fastest car and he still won races.  He is a much better and fairer  racer than Senna and MS, ever were and Fangio always made sure that he was in the fastest car available.  Clark was probably the nearest to Lewis in terms of overall talent, I would put them equal, but who knows. .  . 

26 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Do you think he just walked into the top job?

 

No, he was carefully groomed for it by his father. Started as a boy in Karts. Was mates with Nico Rosberg on the karting circuit. 

 

No one should doubt the effort he's put into developing his natural skills to the fullest.

 

But he's a racing driver, a very well paid one too. Not some social leader whose there to lecture us, the people who paid for his wealth. 

4 hours ago, Pilotman said:

wrong wrong wrong.  He pays tax on his UK interests, of which he has many,  and he drives for a team that has massive engineering  infrastructure  and therefore  jobs in the UK. People make it up as they go along.

 

Funny thing is that most people, UK or otherwise, posting on here live in Thailand and would avoid their home country's tax if they could.  Hypocrisy and jealousy are wonderful sins to have. 

 

Nothing to do with hypocrisy and jealousy.

 

Do you have access to his personal tax records? He lives in Monaco, known as a tax haven. 

 

So, as you claim to know, how much tax has he paid to HMRC over say the last 10 years? And what % of his actual worldwide income is that?

2 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Nothing to do with hypocrisy and jealousy.

 

Do you have access to his personal tax records? He lives in Monaco, known as a tax haven. 

 

So, as you claim to know, how much tax has he paid to HMRC over say the last 10 years? And what % of his actual worldwide income is that?

where he lives has little to do with his tax liabilities on UK income. I live here in LOS, but I don't pay Thai tax, except on my property,  but I do pay both UK and Taiwan tax on income derived there.  Just check his website to see what he does in the UK that will mean he pays tax on that portion of his income.