vandeventer Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 hours ago, placeholder said: You're confused. It was Trump who appeased Kim. But he gave him nothing!!! except nice letters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Did anyone expect Kim to say China or Russia was his biggest enemy? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 59 minutes ago, vandeventer said: But he gave him nothing!!! except nice letters. Trump surprises with pledge to end military exercises in South Korea EOUL/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump’s declaration on Tuesday that he intended to end joint military exercises with South Korea took South Korean and U.S. military officials by surprise. Although the Pentagon said Defense Secretary Jim Mattis was consulted ahead of time, current and former U.S. defense officials expressed concern at the possibility that the United States would unilaterally halt military exercises without an explicit concession from North Korea lowering the threat from Pyongyang. “I’m sort of stunned about how much we gave up and how little we got in return,” said one former official, saying the decision “borders on irresponsible” and would erode readiness and diminish the credibility of the U.S.-South Korean alliance. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-military-idUSKBN1J812W Trump called South Korea military exercises 'provocative,' the same way North Korea described them US President Donald Trump used the same language as Kim Jong-un when suspending the joint South Korea military exercises, calling them “provocative”. He also said the “war games” were “expensive”. The plan to freeze military exercises may have been a concession for getting North Korea to the Singapore summit in the first place. Last month Pyongyang had said the joint US and South Korean Air Force drills, which included fighter jets, was a “rehearsal for [an] invasion of the North and a provocation amid warming inter-Korean ties…[it is an] intentional military provocation running counter to the positive political development on the Korean Peninsula”. https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/donald-trump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, chilli42 said: I am no fan of Lil’ Kim but he is 100% correct that the US is their main enemy and threat to how he likes to run things in the surreal world on North Korea And he is one of the main threats to the West. Sadly. No easy answers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Imo, it just Kim throwing something at the USA's incoming new admin to see how they might react. Obviously, at some point P.E. Biden will have to address the NK issue and we will just have to wait and see. What I think is more important is the question of whether NK is really extending/increasing its nuclear deterrent program or not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 The biggest enemy of North Korea is that fat little ...t running it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, TKDfella said: Imo, it just Kim throwing something at the USA's incoming new admin to see how they might react. Obviously, at some point P.E. Biden will have to address the NK issue and we will just have to wait and see. What I think is more important is the question of whether NK is really extending/increasing its nuclear deterrent program or not. There's little doubt North Korea is developing more advanced nuclear weapons. But Donald & Jong-un will always have Singapore.???? North Korea's missile and nuclear programme North Korea is widely believed to have missiles capable of striking long-range targets, including potentially the US mainland. In October 2020, it unveiled what appeared to be one of the world's largest intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs). https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41174689 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: And he is one of the main threats to the West. Sadly. No easy answers. Only if you believe he's suicidal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proboscis Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I think that this is just a case of getting your revenge in early, as in hurting the other guy before he hurts you. In the case of Biden, I think that is a bit stupid of Kim but there you are. But then he has to create the "evil other" in order to keep his own people on side. It is Totalitarianism 101. Alway have an enemy that you can blame and use to scare the population. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 50 minutes ago, placeholder said: There's little doubt North Korea is developing more advanced nuclear weapons. But Donald & Jong-un will always have Singapore.???? North Korea's missile and nuclear programme North Korea is widely believed to have missiles capable of striking long-range targets, including potentially the US mainland. In October 2020, it unveiled what appeared to be one of the world's largest intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs). https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41174689 I didn't mention or imply Pres. Trump but what the next admin might do and so your comment is of little value. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted January 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2021 11 hours ago, Tug said: Just keep it up little Kim I don’t think you will find the Biden administration so stupid as was trumps I suggest you batten down your hatches cause there’s rough seas ahead Are you serious? Trump made more progress with North Korea than any previous president. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, TKDfella said: I didn't mention or imply Pres. Trump but what the next admin might do and so your comment is of little value. So you didn't write "What I think is more important is the question of whether NK is really extending/increasing its nuclear deterrent program or not."? And I don't understand your comment about Trump. I didn't mention him in the post in question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Are you serious? Trump made more progress with North Korea than any previous president. Can you describe to us what progress has been made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, placeholder said: Can you describe to us what progress has been made? How did you miss it? It was big news for quite a while. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-southkorea-trump/trump-should-win-the-nobel-peace-prize-says-south-koreas-moon-idUSKBN1I10OD 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted January 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: How did you miss it? It was big news for quite a while. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-southkorea-trump/trump-should-win-the-nobel-peace-prize-says-south-koreas-moon-idUSKBN1I10OD And how did it turn out? What was actually accomplished? North Korea's nuclear forces are more formidable than ever. North Korea just denounced the US as its #1 foe. Ya think maybe that article is a bit out of date? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, placeholder said: And how did it turn out? What was actually accomplished? North Korea's nuclear forces are more formidable than ever. North Korea just denounced the US as its #1 foe. Ya think maybe that article is a bit out of date? Can you show where another president has done more? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Can you show where another president has done more? Absolutely: Deal Freezes Pyongyang’s Nuclear Program The United States and North Korea sign the Agreed Framework [PDF], in which North Korea commits to freezing its illicit plutonium weapons program and halting construction on nuclear reactors, in Geneva. In exchange, the United States pledges to provide sanctions relief, aid, oil, and two light-water reactors for civilian use. Earlier in the year, the CIA assessed that North Korea had produced one or two nuclear weapons. North Korean Nuclear Negotiations: A Brief History (cfr.org) Because of thaivisa rules, I can only post this 1 paragraph. But there's plenty more to see. All you have to do is click on the link. And what I can't do is show you any President who has done less. Trump accomplished nothing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 10 hours ago, BangkokReady said: Are you serious? Trump made more progress with North Korea than any previous president. If you count photo ops as progress, then Trump was #1! Otherwise, he made things worse. Gave Kim the global stage, something he desperately wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Troll post reported and removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said: he made things worse Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Monday Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Trump got bamboozled by Kim. An easy mark. Anybody who says the Trump administration accomplished anything on NK is similarly a sad dupe, in fact Trump made it worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 32 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Source? Google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said: Google. Haha. Didn't think you would have one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 13 hours ago, BangkokReady said: Source? 11 hours ago, BangkokReady said: Haha. Didn't think you would have one. Haha. But I do: North Korea was Trump’s chief foreign policy boast, but things got worse on his watch Days before Donald Trump was sworn in as president, Barack Obama gave him an urgent warning: North Korea was a serious threat and might soon be capable of marrying a nuclear warhead to a long-range missile that could reach American shores. Almost four years after that meeting at the White House, as Trump faces the prospect of possibly turning over the presidency to Joe Biden, there is little evidence the danger has been reduced, despite the most sustained and aggressive diplomacy of Trump’s tenure. If anything, North Korea poses a greater threat, according to Korea specialists: The country has tested and developed more weapons; its leader, Kim Jong Un, has become less isolated; and international resolve to confront North Korea has weakened after Trump’s three meetings with Kim. https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-08-24/north-korea-trump-foreign-policy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 27 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Haha. Didn't think you would have one. Too lazy to feed a troll. If you really want to understand the history of NK, do some research. Go way back. And how many previous administrations failed to deal with Kim. Lots of mistakes made. By lots of different parties. In the end, he's the leader of a terrorist country. Nuclear weapons is only one of the terrorist acts he is carrying out. Drugs, counterfeiting, hacking, selling weapons illegally, etc, etc, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 A post advocating assassination has been removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I still want to have a crack at his sister. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 21 hours ago, placeholder said: there is little evidence the danger has been reduced, despite the most sustained and aggressive diplomacy of Trump’s tenure Haha. So the same as all the rest. Great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 21 hours ago, Jeffr2 said: If you really want to understand the history of NK I already understand it fully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 48 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: I already understand it fully. Doesn't seem you do.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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