Anutin backtracks: All Thais and foreigners are eligible for Covid treatment

[brianthainess]

23 hours ago, PatOngo said:

The loss of face must be almost unbearable!

Well the face he has is almost unbearable init. 

[Cadan]

On 1/11/2021 at 8:53 AM, scorecard said:

OK, but his message doesn't mention/clarify anything about who must pay and who doesn't have to pay. 

He does mention that it's all paid for by Thai taxpayers, perhaps that's the clue as to who doesn't have to pay?

I believe the foreigners pay the majority of salary tax in Thailand while most taxes are paid on import duties at average 20%. 

Edited January 12, 2021 by Cadan

[robblok]

8 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I'd say it's extortion. 

I don't think so every choice you make in life has advantages and disadvantages. You just have to choose. Anti vaxers will have to learn that not vaccinating has consequences. They are all for not wanting to take it but they don't want to bear any problems that come from not taking it. 

Choices are never like that they always have a benefit and a disadvantage. Just choose what is most important to you.

[dallen52]

But we still have to be fully insured.

400k inpatient coverage and 40k outpatient treatment. 

Plus 100,000 usd covid19 insurance. 

Dont see what portions of the Thai tax covers this?

[Lacessit]

53 minutes ago, robblok said:

No idea, but does not entitle you to free healthcare. Just buying a car in a country and paying tax does not make you automatically insured. It does not do that anywhere in the whole world.

Quite correct. However, there is a difference between paying a reasonable premium over what Thais pay, and being gouged.

Take the Astra Zeneca vaccine. Let's say the Thai government provides it at cost to Thais, 100 baht. If they want to charge me 500 baht, no problem. Having said that, would you be happy to get stung 8000 baht for a vaccine you know only costs 100?

[Neeranam]

9 minutes ago, robblok said:

I don't think so every choice you make in life has advantages and disadvantages. You just have to choose. Anti vaxers will have to learn that not vaccinating has consequences. They are all for not wanting to take it but they don't want to bear any problems that come from not taking it. 

Choices are never like that they always have a benefit and a disadvantage. Just choose what is most important to you.

It isn't a choice if the authorities say you won't get a visa if you don't or you won't be able to use an airplane etc.

It's exactly the same as a hoodlum telling you you have a choice to pay for protection or not, the very definition of extortion. 

[Neeranam]

15 minutes ago, Cadan said:

I believe the foreigners pay the majority of salary tax in Thailand while most taxes are paid on import duties at average 20%. 

What makes you believe that? Incredible suggestion! 

[sandyf]

18 minutes ago, robblok said:

I don't think so every choice you make in life has advantages and disadvantages. You just have to choose. Anti vaxers will have to learn that not vaccinating has consequences. They are all for not wanting to take it but they don't want to bear any problems that come from not taking it. 

Choices are never like that they always have a benefit and a disadvantage. Just choose what is most important to you.

Quite. I saw an item on the news a couple of days ago about the quest for the polio vaccine in the 50's. Forgotten about that, there was a girl in my class with a steel cage on her leg because of polio.

Where would we be today if the anti vaxers had prevailed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/polio-deadly-summer-1956-2117253.html

[fulhamster]

On 1/11/2021 at 9:48 AM, PatOngo said:

God help Thailand whoever becomes the next PM! They're all tarred with the same greedy brush!

 

 

I think it's already been decided who the PM is ad infnitum.

 

[robblok]

11 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

It isn't a choice if the authorities say you won't get a visa if you don't or you won't be able to use an airplane etc.

It's exactly the same as a hoodlum telling you you have a choice to pay for protection or not, the very definition of extortion. 

Why is it not a choice if you think vaccines are that unsafe and bad for you despite medical evidence saying otherwise then its not even a choice you don't take the vaccine go back to your home country and be done with it. If its not that important then you just take the vaccine and be done with it.

 

I guess you want an easy choice, not all choices in life are easy.

[sandyf]

10 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

It isn't a choice if the authorities say you won't get a visa if you don't or you won't be able to use an airplane etc.

It's exactly the same as a hoodlum telling you you have a choice to pay for protection or not, the very definition of extortion. 

Distorted point of view, the hoodlum is out for personal gain.

Taking a vaccine is about the safety of others, those that refuse are like the hoodlum, out for personal gain.

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Distorted point of view, the hoodlum is out for personal gain.

Taking a vaccine is about the safety of others, those that refuse are like the hoodlum, out for personal gain.

Distorted, in your opinion. I believe the government will gain by controlling the citizens. 

 

If I don't take a vaccine, what is my gain?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 12, 2021 by Neeranam

[robblok]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Distorted, in your opinion. I believe the government will gain by controlling the citizens. 

 

If I don't take a vaccine, what is my gain?

Not taking it means you fight the government (however deluded you are) and you get your way. But to get your way and do what you want the government can do certain things too. Why should there be no consequences to your refusal ? By not taking it you put others at risk. Those who really cannot be vaccinated and so on. 

 

Anyway your choice I mean you have to think what is more important for you.

[Neeranam]

4 minutes ago, robblok said:

Why is it not a choice if you think vaccines are that unsafe and bad for you despite medical evidence saying otherwise then its not even a choice you don't take the vaccine go back to your home country and be done with it. If its not that important then you just take the vaccine and be done with it.

 

I guess you want an easy choice, not all choices in life are easy.

I don't think vaccines are unsafe. 

I wouldn't have to go back to my home country(I'm dual), but if I did, how would I get there, walk?

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, robblok said:

Not taking it means you fight the government (however deluded you are) and you get your way. But to get your way and do what you want the government can do certain things too. Why should there be no consequences to your refusal ? By not taking it you put others at risk. Those who really cannot be vaccinated and so on. 

 

Anyway your choice I mean you have to think what is more important for you.

I would take it, just saying. Some things I choose to fight the govt., like when Thatcher introduced the Poll tax in Scotland. Resisting the Thai govt. is a little more complicated. I'd better read the Constitution again to see what my rights are.

[stigar]

28 minutes ago, dallen52 said:

But we still have to be fully insured.

400k inpatient coverage and 40k outpatient treatment. 

Plus 100,000 usd covid19 insurance. 

Dont see what portions of the Thai tax covers this?

I paid about 10.000 bath for 3 months travel incurance included all expencives about covid-19.This incurance cover everything that they request.If people cant afford to pay this they better stay home.

This i bougth from www.misterprakan.com

[robblok]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I would take it, just saying. Some things I choose to fight the govt., like when Thatcher introduced the Poll tax in Scotland. Resisting the Thai govt. is a little more complicated. I'd better read the Constitution again to see what my rights are.

If your a Thai (its possible you got PR) then your rights are different. But airlines and other countries can still ban you from flying. Its their rules you either comply or not. You don't have to take it you can. 

 

For your information there have always been countries that wont let you in if you did not have certain vaccinations. Been so forever. Now its a bit more of an issue as more countries will do it because of COVID. 

 

Your rights are not taking it.

 

Its a right of an other country and an airline to make it mandatory before boarding a flight.

[robblok]

44 minutes ago, Cadan said:

I believe the foreigners pay the majority of salary tax in Thailand while most taxes are paid on import duties at average 20%. 

What a deluded point of view. Just check how many foreigners there are and how many Thais. Then you will see that Thais pay more. So you might be right saying that foreigners pay on average more sales tax. Could be true I have no idea how much rich Thais spend.

 

But the majority of sales tax (of the whole country) is deluded.

[David T Pike]

Wait a minute! If foreigners will receive free treatment then WHY the requirement for COVD Insurance??? Honest question. Am I missing something?

[Pravda]

Love Anutin. 

 

Keep up the good work. 

[tomauasia]

Human rights and this character don't belong in the same paragraph 

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, jackdd said:

This translation is wrong, it doesn't say "treatment". If you don't have any symptoms and are only getting locked away to protect other people, this paragraph might be applicable though.

But then there is section 5 of the constitution which can be interpreted as that the whole constitution only applies to Thai people. You would definitely need a judge who likes foreigners to be successful pushing this through.

Providing everyone of us comply with the regulations and protocols, instead of griping and moaning about them, it won't be put to the test will it.

 

So mask up, wash your hands and play your part. It's in all our interests.

 

Edited January 12, 2021 by Moonlover

[Mywayboy]

On 1/11/2021 at 12:00 PM, colinneil said:

That is a priceless comment, unhinged gawd he certainly is seriously unhinged.

There are several others just like him in government here, just look at Prawit he certainly is unhinged.

He only opens his mouth to change feet

[SunsetT]

On 1/11/2021 at 8:21 AM, webfact said:

The frequently unhinged minister

.................Love it!    Spot on for once.

[wwest5829]

On 1/11/2021 at 10:28 AM, Peterw42 said:

You both paid 7%. The difference being the farmer is a Thai citizen and entitled to Thai medical care, as you are entitled to the medical services of your country, 

Medical care is never determined by how much tax you pay, in any country, its determined by being a citizen of that country.

Although allowing for no guarantee of medical care in the USA, citizen or no. Just an observation. Yes, I want a US national healthcare program like all other western democracies provide for their citizens ...

[bluesea]

On the 31st October the Australian Foreign Affairs minister Senator Marise PaynePledged to the South East Asian Countries $500,000,000 Dollars Aud , which also included The Kingdom of Thailand to Purchase and Supply People who are in Thailand the Covid-19 Vacinne.( see the Facebook Link from the Australian Embassy) & the Link from the Ministers Govenment Foreign affairs.

https://www.facebook.com/australiainthailand/photos/a.154657341349501/1877299875751897/

 

https://www.foreignminister.gov.au/minister/marise-payne/media-release/australian-support-covid-19-vaccine-access-pacific-and-southeast-asia?fbclid=IwAR3B8_lm6tqpVTSeNQVLBrk2EzaovEJ-nn2sNU1xDYL8iGQEPRxMh4lMJRs

 

I have asked the Australian Embassy in Bangkok this Question of the $500 Million Dollars for the Covid-19 Vacinne for Expats in Thailand and there reply was it is now Thailands Money and it is up to the Thai Health Department to make that decission.

 

"Quote" Anutin said that the Thai medical services is funded by Thai taxes. He mentioned two sections of the Communicable Diseases Act taking a swipe at those who break the Covid rules, illegal migrants and those that aid and abet them. 

Anutin has often courted controversy in the pandemic - in the early days he famously castigated a foreigner who would not accept his offer of a free mask and soon after had a pop at his own medical personnel. 

 

Stay Tuned another false accusation that the Vacinnes are paid with Thai Taxes..

 

The Question has to be asked , how many other Countries have pledged money to Third World Thailand ??

 

 

Edited January 12, 2021 by bluesea

[hugocnx]

Raises the question why billionaires are in politics. Money doesn't make you smart; look at House and Senate in the US. (both parties)

[Pique Dard]

On 1/11/2021 at 2:21 AM, webfact said:

Anutin backtracks: All Thais and foreigners are eligible for Covid treatment

a decision as sensible as logic! unless anutin was thinking a foreigner suffering from covid can't infect a thai citizen

[Gandtee]

On 1/11/2021 at 9:13 AM, FarFlungFalang said:

He campaigned on a platform to legalise marijuana not aspects,that part came latter, more money can be made if it remains illegal.Gives new meaning to the phrase "a snake in the "grass".

Grass as in weed I take it?????

[Mayhem11]

I pay VAT. Does that count?