snoop1130 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Kids less likely to spread Covid so schools should stay open, says respiratory disease expert By The Nation Dr Manoon Leechawengwongs Closing schools to curb Covid-19 does more damage than good, because it deprives children of education, an expert in respiratory diseases said on Friday. Dr Manoon Leechawengwongs, a specialist at Bangkok's Vichaiyut Hospital, said adults were far more likely to spread Covid-19 than children. Writing on Facebook, he added that children rarely show symptoms after infection, while their death rate from Covid-19 is lower than from other common respiratory diseases. “Closing schools helps stop the virus spreading from children to their families, but it is not worth it when children's opportunity to study is halted," he said. Children were at risk of Covid-19 infection in school, especially young children, who find it hard to follow control measures, said Dr Manoon. He added that many children study in poorly ventilated classrooms, which increases the chance of the disease spreading. But he applauded the move to reopen public schools nationwide – except in Samut Sakhon – from Monday. "We must recognise that we will have to live with Covid-19 for a long time, so I agree with the government's move to reopen schools soon," he said. He added that teachers should be vaccinated to prevent them from spreading the virus to children in the classroom. Currently, Thailand’s Covid-19 inoculation programme does not cover children, since more research is needed on the vaccines’ efficacy and safety in kids. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30401998?utm_source=category&utm_medium=internal_referral -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2021-01-29 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted January 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2021 Less likely to spread a virus,what a bunch of BS. My kids were super spreaders. They would get infected at school and then share the virus or illness with myself and their mother. They were equal opportunity infectors. 27 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: he added that children rarely show symptoms after infection, while their death rate from Covid-19 is lower than from other common respiratory diseases. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 35 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: Dr Manoon Leechawengwongs, a specialist at Bangkok's Vichaiyut Hospital, said adults were far more likely to spread Covid-19 than children While I believe that is true, the fact is children can also spread covid. Children rarely get symptoms so viral loads must be less but when you get them all together in classrooms with teachers then spread it will. In Zurich they've taken the approach that if they find two or more covid cases in a school then they mass test everyone. The results of the first mass test are in: 7% of the students and teachers tested positive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post internationalism Posted January 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2021 that exactly what boris johnson in the uk, as well as many politicians in the other countries were saying. Sadly, start of schools in september caused the second wave within several weeks 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Originally children were listed in highest risk group! Turns out the exact opposite was true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 children, and seniors, were barred from leaving homes during the first wave. they are not in the high risk group, because they don't get sick, don't have symptoms, they can spread the virus. with kindergartens and schools closed, the best way to allow parents to work was grounding grandparents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoybeing Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Hi is very correct as children rarely even have symptoms. Nice to see someone using logic in their assessment. Also, I have recently seen on google searches that there has never been a single "documented" case of an Asymptomatic transmission, meaning if you have no symptoms, you do not spread this virus. Does anyone know for fact, of documented Asymptomatics spreading Covid? Even the WHO says it is very rare, if it occurs at all. all.. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52977940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Teachers should be near the front of the queue for jabs under essential workers (if they are not already) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoybeing Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, sungod said: Teachers should be near the front of the queue for jabs under essential workers (if they are not already) I know they say the vaccines distributed in the USA do not protect against spreading, or transmission of Covid. It also does not protect one from contracting Covid. They say it will only reduce the symptoms of Covid. I don't know if the vaccine used in Thailand is the same or not...? https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/verify-moderna-and-pfizer-vaccines-may-prevent-disease-but-not-infection/65-f65cb7ee-24dc-48d0-bc08-8cfb3423a3b6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, enjoybeing said: Hi is very correct as children rarely even have symptoms. Nice to see someone using logic in their assessment. Also, I have recently seen on google searches that there has never been a single "documented" case of an Asymptomatic transmission, meaning if you have no symptoms, you do not spread this virus. Does anyone know for fact, of documented Asymptomatics spreading Covid? Even the WHO says it is very rare, if it occurs at all. all.. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52977940 From another 6+month old article.... https://www.nursingtimes.net/news/research-and-innovation/over-40-of-covid-19-infections-are-asymptomatic-suggests-study-01-07-2020/ And therein lies the problem - you ask a group of scientists and you get a scientific reply. You ask another group and you get a completely different but still scientifically correct, answer. The correct response is - 'maybe, or not'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Closing schools to curb Covid-19 does more damage than good, because it deprives children of education, an expert in respiratory diseases said on Friday. He maybe a medical expert, but an education expert he is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 hours ago, enjoybeing said: Hi is very correct as children rarely even have symptoms. Nice to see someone using logic in their assessment. Also, I have recently seen on google searches that there has never been a single "documented" case of an Asymptomatic transmission, meaning if you have no symptoms, you do not spread this virus. Does anyone know for fact, of documented Asymptomatics spreading Covid? Even the WHO says it is very rare, if it occurs at all. all.. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52977940 Give it a rest please. Many studies out there say the opposite and The Who has Backtrack on your claim of saying asymptomatic cases are rare. Study: Up to 80% of COVID-19 Infections Are Asymptomatic | Time WHO expert backtracks after saying asymptomatic transmission 'very rare' | World news | The Guardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 17 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Kids less likely to spread Covid so schools should stay open, says respiratory disease expert Well said... should have stepped up to the plate six weeks ago though, waiting for now that schools are going to re-open is a bit pointless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chilly07 Posted January 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2021 Of course kids spread Wuflu just like any other virus and more likely when they are asymptomatic as they won't stay away from school and playing with their friends or mixing with the rest of their family and carers. Keep schools shut! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 So that's why half of them stopped wearing masks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOAX Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Less likely lol Sure, probably less likely than overcrowded drunken festivals, but schools all over Europe aren`t being shut down for fun, they`re shut down because of outbreaks. Despite Norway only having a couple of hundred daily new cases, outbreaks occur in schools all the time, shutting them down. I`m assuming Norway isn`t unique here. Children tend to spread the virus to other family members and friends, which often leads to outbreaks getting out of hand, new lockdowns/restrictions and a further increase in deaths of someone`s family members, perhaps even their own. Keep the schools closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Denis Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Give it a rest please. Many studies out there say the opposite and The Who has Backtrack on your claim of saying asymptomatic cases are rare. Study: Up to 80% of COVID-19 Infections Are Asymptomatic | Time WHO expert backtracks after saying asymptomatic transmission 'very rare' | World news | The Guardian It looks like you have 'given it a rest' by referring to two articles that are both more than 7 months old (respectively from May and June 2020). Glad to hear a voice of reason from a Thai doctor and not the usual dr Yong BS we are fed on the Forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Peter Denis said: It looks like you have 'given it a rest' by referring to two articles that are both more than 7 months old (respectively from May and June 2020). Glad to hear a voice of reason from a Thai doctor and not the usual dr Yong BS we are fed on the Forum. Just used the same time frame for the post as the poster I was referring to used. Here are a few recent case studies and articles. Good reading. Covid-19: Asymptomatic Transmission Seen as Major Source of Infection | Physician's Weekly The truth about asymptomatic spread of COVID-19 | UCHealth Today Edited January 30, 2021 by ThailandRyan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Denis Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Just used the same time frame for the post as the poster I was referring to used. Here is a recent case study and article Covid-19: Asymptomatic Transmission Seen as Major Source of Infection | Physician's Weekly This article - published Nov 2020 - in Nature, tells a different story. > https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w It is not based on 'models' but on testing of almost 10 million (!) residents of Wuhan. Attached below an excerpt: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 So many different views from the medical profession, no wonder this virus is such a 1 off, and creating the havoc it is.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoybeing Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Give it a rest please. Many studies out there say the opposite and The Who has Backtrack on your claim of saying asymptomatic cases are rare. Study: Up to 80% of COVID-19 Infections Are Asymptomatic | Time WHO expert backtracks after saying asymptomatic transmission 'very rare' | World news | The Guardian Of course they backtracked.. How could they impose control and sell vaccines if they didn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letseng Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 This is the opposite of what is experienced in Europe. Kids play a big role in spreading infections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Hop Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 14 hours ago, enjoybeing said: Hi is very correct as children rarely even have symptoms. Nice to see someone using logic in their assessment. Also, I have recently seen on google searches that there has never been a single "documented" case of an Asymptomatic transmission, meaning if you have no symptoms, you do not spread this virus. Does anyone know for fact, of documented Asymptomatics spreading Covid? Even the WHO says it is very rare, if it occurs at all. all.. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52977940 If what he is saying is true and you confer, please explain as to why the UK is therefore investing at least £912m in the rollout of mass testing for everyone in the coming months? Also, try speaking to some teachers who will undoubtedly tell you Covid is fairly rife within schools? The fact that I have 3 friends who are teachers and of which 2 have already caught Covid, speaks volumes in itself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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