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sputnik is already approved in hungary (which is EU). They also have approved one of chinese one.

So now it's open door to the other EU countries, and declaration of importing might be very real.

Russia is doing mass vax program since november, so far with success.

 

also to note:

"In an unprecedented move in the coronavirus vaccine field, the Gamaleya Institute joined forces in December with the drugmaker AstraZeneca, which makes a vaccine with human adenoviruses. The two teams will combine their vaccines to see if the mixture can increase the efficacy of the AstraZeneca vaccine. AstraZeneca registered a Phase 1 trial for the combination on Dec. 24. In January, Gamaleya researchers also started a trial on a single-dose version of the vaccine, which they dubbed “Sputnik Light.” 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html

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I have no reason to doubt Russia's vaccine but I'm always a little hesitant to believe numbers out of Russia.

 

On November 11, immediately after Pfizer suggested their vaccine could be 'more than'' 90% effective, Russia announced their vaccine was 92% effective. I think it was the next day.  Pfizer later announced 95%.  However, the 92% was based on just 20 volunteers who contracted the virus. Now I'm asked to believe the real number is 91.6% based on a larger but still not sizeable trial.

 

In a way, it reminds me of Sinovac's vaccine's 50.4% efficacy, just 0.4% above the approval rating.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-russia-vaccine-idUSKBN27R0ZA

 

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3 hours ago, internationalism said:

sputnik is already approved in hungary (which is EU). They also have approved one of chinese one.

Russia is doing mass vax program since november, so far with success

Yes, I am well aware of that. However, Hungary has virtually been at war with the EU for some time this mainly to do with the policies of Orban cs (independent of COVID) and their approval for the Sputnik and Sinopharm vaccines without green light from the EMA has upset quite a few   https://www.ft.com/content/20bfa7ba-4df9-4422-9dbf-06811da1294c. I don't think Germany will just proceed like this.

And about the successful vaccination in program: Russia has just vaccinated 0.7% of its population (ourworldindata) and it appears that most Russians are very suspicious of Sputnik (maybe of other vaccines too). It appears that they have an oversupply of vaccines but with many of the vaccination centers largely empty. A recent article (not sure how reliable this is, but many western correspondents mention the lack of enthusiasm regarding vaccination, they could get it for free though they were not high on the list as few Russians turned up)    https://theprint.in/world/oversupply-of-covid-shot-in-russia-but-skepticism-dogs-sputnik-v-vaccine-drive/595878/ 

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4 hours ago, internationalism said:

AstraZeneca, which makes a vaccine with human adenoviruses

Wrong.

AZ uses chimpanzee adenovirus. Chadox = chimpanzee adenovirus Oxford. I hardly dare to write that chimpanzees are not human, afraid to get banned...

BTW i checked your source,  NYT really writes this. 

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13 hours ago, Kiujunn said:

Wrong.

AZ uses chimpanzee adenovirus. Chadox = chimpanzee adenovirus Oxford. I hardly dare to write that chimpanzees are not human, afraid to get banned...

BTW i checked your source,  NYT really writes this. 

Indeed. If you want to know why AZ has chosen a chimp cold virus you can check this article:

In contrast, Sputnik uses human cold adenoviruses (Ad26 for the first shot and Ad5 for the second), whereas the one shot Janssen vaccine (from Johnson & Johnson) uses one (Ad26). The Ad26 platform is fairly common for viral vector vaccines (i.e. against Ebola, Zika, HPV, malaria, etc).

 

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.vaccine.2020.09.018

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