Scotland's first minister Sturgeon faces resignation call amid row with predecessor

[kingdong]

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

 

Did it?

Those "banana republics" now have far more international clout as part of the EU than the UK does out of it.

Some would argue that the UK is now a banana republic. Although given we we still have an unelected head of state I suppose the correct term would be banana kingdom.

 " unelected head of state "? What are you on about?

[kingdong]

4 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

 

Did it?

Those "banana republics" now have far more international clout as part of the EU than the UK does out of it.

They,ll a!so have " freedom of movement " to settle in scotland,should they join the eu.

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, kingdong said:

 " unelected head of state "? What are you on about?

 

We get a vote on who gets to be queen now?

Why was I not informed?

And why has an opportunity to have a hit TV show called "The Great British Queen talent vote" been squandered? 

For what its worth if you had applied to the show I would have voted for you. 

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, kingdong said:

They,ll a!so have " freedom of movement " to settle in scotland,should they join the eu.

 

Ah so we are back to immigration again?

How are you getting on picking that fruit and veg the farmers are complaining is rotting in the fields?

[RuamRudy]

16 minutes ago, kingdong said:

They,ll a!so have " freedom of movement " to settle in scotland,should they join the eu.

Just like they had before, when they were a major contributor to the growth of our country. They will be very welcome to return again.

[RuamRudy]

15 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

 

Ah so we are back to immigration again?

How are you getting on picking that fruit and veg the farmers are complaining is rotting in the fields?

 

Don't worry - the Nasty Party has that one covered.

 

Top Tory's heartless plan to put pensioners to work picking fruit

[Rookiescot]

3 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Just like they had before, when they were a major contributor to the growth of our country. They will be very welcome to return again.

 

Dunno if the eastern europeans will be able to undercut the cheap labour trying to get in from the Peoples Democratic Kingdom of Brexitland.

[kingdong]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

 

Dunno if the eastern europeans will be able to undercut the cheap labour trying to get in from the Peoples Democratic Kingdom of Brexitland.

Oh i don,t know,with a little help from their friends i.e " self employed""emp!oyment contracts,zero hour contracts ( formerly made possible by freedom of movement,now made possible thanks to the unemployment created by the corona pandemic ) sure they,ll cope.

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, kingdong said:

Oh i don,t know,with a little help from their friends i.e " self employed""emp!oyment contracts,zero hour contracts ( formerly made possible by freedom of movement,now made possible thanks to the unemployment created by the corona pandemic ) sure they,ll cope.

 

Joking apart people are really struggling. Zero hours contracts are a damned disgrace in my opinion. Also the trend to push people off the unemployment lists and into self employed status has been devastating for many. 

The UK is not in a good place given the pressures from corona and Brexit.

[kingdong]

2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

 

Joking apart people are really struggling. Zero hours contracts are a damned disgrace in my opinion. Also the trend to push people off the unemployment lists and into self employed status has been devastating for many. 

The UK is not in a good place given the pressures from corona and Brexit.

Agree on your first point ,on your second i beg to differ,the " self employed " status is a way to get round paying the minimum wage,however a recent court case involving uber who lost,has meant all its workers are in fact employees,this should have implications to any employee using such a practise

2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

 

I 

[kingdong]

2 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

Just like they had before, when they were a major contributor to the growth of our country. They will be very welcome to return again.

Glad to hear it,and lets hope they put on a few extra courses when they rebuild hadrians wall.

[safarimike11]

15 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

Why high time? 

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/no-confidence-vote-nicola-sturgeon-190300848.html

 

[safarimike11]

Just now, safarimike11 said:

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/no-confidence-vote-nicola-sturgeon-190300848.html

 

Answer

 

[CG1 Blue]

7 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

 

Scotland has no debt. Its the UK's debt.

Scotland holds all the cards.

Must say I'm enjoying this more light hearted comedy style of writing from you Rookie ????

Wait...this was a joke, right? ????

[CG1 Blue]

6 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

But do you really think that the SNP will still be in existence after independence? As political parties go, there can be few as broad in terms of the political perspectives of its members. They encompass the right and the left, united in a common goal of independence. 

A bit like UKIP/The Brexit Party - i.e. single purpose parties. 

So how long could the SNP stay in charge of the country after independence, assuming independence was gained? I'm pretty sure they wouldn't walk away voluntarily. 

[RuamRudy]

7 hours ago, safarimike11 said:

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/no-confidence-vote-nicola-sturgeon-190300848.html

 

 

Not quite the fulsome answer I was hoping for, but if that's all you've got, that's all you've got. 

[sandyf]

14 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

 

I don't want to pre-empt the outcome of the investigation, but if there is evidence of wrongdoing on anyone's part then I hope that they will be held fully accountable, including the FM. If we aspire to make a better country, we need to have leaders who are above reproach, and systems in place to ensure that wrong doing is found out. 

Quite. The whole fiasco is quite simple Alex Salmond got himself in trouble and asked NS to help him out, she turned her back and he stuck a knife in it. We would still be watching an enquiry if she had helped him out, just a different perspective.

As for NS and the Scottish government, the case arose as a new policy was introduced, not surprising mistakes were made. Much has been misinterpreted and taken out of context regarding who said what and when. The legal advice used the word "reservations" but AS claims that means "definite failure".

The only conspiracy here is an attempt to suppress the calls for a referendum prior to the elections.

We can only wait and see what view the committee take.

 

Why hasn't there been similar enquiries regarding TM and BJ acting unlawfully? Has the cost to the tax payer of either PM being taken to court ever been revealed?

[Scott Tracy]

On 3/3/2021 at 7:47 AM, david555 said:

Seems the English really shxxng their pants for that referendum ....putting their backroom dark forces at work ...

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I think not. I, for one wish the Scots would just get on with it instead of faffing around. The English people care not a jot for the Scots, nor the Scots people for the English. Each just wish to live their lives and really are not concerned about 'the union'.

[RuamRudy]

2 minutes ago, Scott Tracy said:

 

I think not. I, for one wish the Scots would just get on with it instead of faffing around. The English people care not a jot for the Scots, nor the Scots people for the English. Each just wish to live their lives and really are not concerned about 'the union'.

 

I am not sure if you meant that to read as starkly as it came across to me, but I think we do care as much as you can care for an abstract community.

 

I would go further, and suggest that our fraternal history means that we care more for what happens to our neighbours than we do for a completely unrelated country on the other side of the world. 

 

Its just that we want to make our own decisions about the big things. That's all. 

[Mr Derek]

Not sure what everyone is talking about here. This issue is all about reining in radical feminism which has gaslighted all women into believing they are victims. The mounting hysteria has been been tearing society apart and is destroying innocent men's lives every day.

Partisan politics, independence, the EU - whatever - is all trivia compared to this issue which concerns the very fabric of society. That's why Sturgeon has to go.

[RuamRudy]

8 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

A bit like UKIP/The Brexit Party - i.e. single purpose parties. 

So how long could the SNP stay in charge of the country after independence, assuming independence was gained? I'm pretty sure they wouldn't walk away voluntarily. 

 

I genuinely think that they would split either in the run up to day 1, or in the immediate aftermath. My preference, in the event of a Yes vote, would be for a coalition government to be formed to lead us through the process with eections within 1 year of independence. 

[safarimike11]

2 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

 

Not quite the fulsome answer I was hoping for, but if that's all you've got, that's all you've got. 

Wellcom

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, Scott Tracy said:

 

I think not. I, for one wish the Scots would just get on with it instead of faffing around. The English people care not a jot for the Scots, nor the Scots people for the English. Each just wish to live their lives and really are not concerned about 'the union'.

 

A huge generalization which makes your opinion false. 

[david555]

5 hours ago, Scott Tracy said:

 

I think not. I, for one wish the Scots would just get on with it instead of faffing around. The English people care not a jot for the Scots, nor the Scots people for the English. Each just wish to live their lives and really are not concerned about 'the union'.

 (Is it contagious ...? Or are they both fed up with Boris doings ????...?   )

 

 

Welsh independence support surges to historic high - major warning for break-up of UK | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

 

Welsh independence support surges to historic high - major warning for break-up of UK

SUPPORT for Welsh independence has surged to its highest ever level, a bombshell new poll has revealed, providing a new headache for Boris Johnson as he fights to keep the UK intact.

 

By PAUL WITHERS

PUBLISHED: 00:01, Thu, Mar 4, 2021 | UPDATED: 07:40, Thu, Mar 4, 2021

 

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[CG1 Blue]

5 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

 

I genuinely think that they would split either in the run up to day 1, or in the immediate aftermath. My preference, in the event of a Yes vote, would be for a coalition government to be formed to lead us through the process with eections within 1 year of independence. 

I can't imagine ambitious politicians (the likes of Sturgeon, Salmond etc) would just walk away after being given the power to run the country. But I guess that's another topic. 

[Rookiescot]

22 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

I can't imagine ambitious politicians (the likes of Sturgeon, Salmond etc) would just walk away after being given the power to run the country. But I guess that's another topic. 

 

The SNP is a broad church. After independence there will be different opinions within it on which direction the country takes. 

I suspect this will result in new parties starting and old ones (Scottish Conservatives, Lib Dems and Labour) fading away.

[Thingamabob]

Never mind the independence issue. The fact is this farce has been badly handled by Sturgeon and her people. 

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, david555 said:

 (Is it contagious ...? Or are they both fed up with Boris doings ????...?   )

 

 

Welsh independence support surges to historic high - major warning for break-up of UK | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

 

Welsh independence support surges to historic high - major warning for break-up of UK

SUPPORT for Welsh independence has surged to its highest ever level, a bombshell new poll has revealed, providing a new headache for Boris Johnson as he fights to keep the UK intact.

 

By PAUL WITHERS

PUBLISHED: 00:01, Thu, Mar 4, 2021 | UPDATED: 07:40, Thu, Mar 4, 2021

 

more...

 

I think that most of the contagion is spread by you. 555. Do you never practice social distancing??  

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

I can't imagine ambitious politicians (the likes of Sturgeon, Salmond etc) would just walk away after being given the power to run the country. But I guess that's another topic. 

One can always hope, I suppose.

[Scott]

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