shackleton Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I think they should be looking at giving vaccines to all in Thailand as a first priority always on about looking after the Tourist first Plus Importing more vaccines and giving out at a faster rate keep hearing the private sector international hospitals are supposed to be getting but when and at what cost ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmen Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 On 4/5/2021 at 1:10 AM, hioctane said: These quarantine days are a bit misleading. I believe 10 days is really 12 nights and 13 days and 7 days is really 9 nights and 10 days. They are not counting the first and last day. I think I will wait for Phuket July 1. Can you leave Phuket though before the no quarantine October 1st kicks in? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyman567 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, crazykopite said: If you’ve got a vaccine certificate there is absolutely no need to quarantine Thailand can kiss goodbye to tourists for 2021 if they continue with this ridiculous policy . What’s the point of having a vaccine in the first place if countries continue to insist on quarantine I agree what the bloody point in getting the jab Maybe the job dont work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 A misleading troll post has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unblocktheplanet Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 hours ago, crazykopite said: If you’ve got a vaccine certificate there is absolutely no need to quarantine Thailand can kiss goodbye to tourists for 2021 if they continue with this ridiculous policy . What’s the point of having a vaccine in the first place if countries continue to insist on quarantine Absolute rubbish! Vaccines are simply not 100%. Masks, handwashing & physical distance will continue & our life will become one of endless boosters for new strains. I'd like to see Novavax (USA), Sputnik V (Russia) & Soberana 2 (Cuba), Abdala (Cuba) added to approved vaccines. Any of you planning vaccine tourism? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 An of topic post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Irrespective of how many Vaccines are included by the Thai Authorities into their "Approved " list, and even if the Quarantine period was only for One day, Tourists with an Ounce of Brain will not visit Thailand. Why ? Because the population have not been Vaccinated, and this leaves open the very real risk that Covid could possibly be carried back to their Homelands by the Tourists. Thats even if they are allowed to Vacation in Thailand by their Governments who may see Thailand as a high risk Country, and bar any travel to the Kingdom. With very little sign, and cohesion on Vaccinating the Citizens of Thailand, the Country will have to wait a long time to see any real number of Tourists visiting their Wats Etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masvil Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, Olivie said: Thank you but I will wait a little bit, until we don't have to do quarantine when vaccinated. Don't hold your breath, it’s possible that people who are fully vaccinated could still spread the virus. Edited April 19, 2021 by masvil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Zweistein Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 On 4/4/2021 at 9:12 AM, HashBrownHarry said: Totally agree, cleanest the beaches / water has been for many many years, great prices at hotels and no one about. And nowhere to go.......................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, masvil said: Don't hold your breath, it’s possible that people who are fully vaccinated could still spread the virus. That article is almost one month old. As of the latest US CDC data. out of 77 million vaccinated people 5800 people have been infected. which represent a statistically insignificant .008% PUBLISHED MON, APR 19 202111:09 AM EDTUPDATED MON, APR 19 20211:26 PM EDT " CDC says fewer than 6,000 Americans have contracted Covid after being fully vaccinated" https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/19/cdc-says-there-have-been-less-than-6000-breakthrough-covid-cases-among-fully-vaccinated-americans.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 40 minutes ago, Albert Zweistein said: And nowhere to go.......................................... I went to many places when i was there, day trips to various islands and restaraunts and bars at night. This was early November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Zweistein Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said: I went to many places when i was there, day trips to various islands and restaraunts and bars at night. This was early November. It's April now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 8 hours ago, Albert Zweistein said: It's April now. Wow - you don't miss a trick do you..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted April 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, sirineou said: That article is almost one month old. As of the latest US CDC data. out of 77 million vaccinated people 5800 people have been infected. which represent a statistically insignificant .008% PUBLISHED MON, APR 19 202111:09 AM EDTUPDATED MON, APR 19 20211:26 PM EDT " CDC says fewer than 6,000 Americans have contracted Covid after being fully vaccinated" https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/19/cdc-says-there-have-been-less-than-6000-breakthrough-covid-cases-among-fully-vaccinated-americans.html IMO thats completely obvious.... The Covid-19 RT PCR test does not test for the disease 'Covid-19’ - it tests for the presence of the SARS-CoV-2 Virus. Covid-19, the disease, is the symptom of the body's response to the SARS-CoV-2 Virus. Thus: When someone has been vaccinated they simply have elevated levels immunity. Thus, in theory they are the same as high percentage of people who have been exposed to SARS-CoV-2 and been found asymptomatic. Ultimately, in a perfect world, if 100% of of people were vaccinated with a 100% effective vaccine the Virus could still be transmitted from person to person, people would still test positive, but the virus would have no impact whatsoever, much like many other viruses floating around which we carry. Realistically, with 70% of the the population vaccinated with a 95% effective vaccine the virus would still be transmitted, but to most people who are in effect ‘asymptomatic’ through vaccine, they can still pass the virus on, but the likelihood of people becoming unwell is diminished because most people have the vaccine. The key question is how quickly the body dispels the SARS-CoV-2 virus when someone is asymptomatic, which one must assume is quicker than for someone presenting symptoms, thus, the risk of onward spread from asymptomatic vaccinated people is reduced such that those in high risk groups who cannot be vaccinated face greater protection from ‘herd immunity’. So... Next year, when everyone (>70%) of people have been vaccinated, the positive cases becomes completely irrelevant, the only metric by which to evaluate the course of this virus will be hospitalisations of those with Covid-19 symptoms. Edited April 20, 2021 by richard_smith237 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masvil Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, sirineou said: As of the latest US CDC data. out of 77 million vaccinated people 5800 people have been infected. which represent a statistically insignificant .008% PUBLISHED MON, APR 19 202111:09 AM EDTUPDATED MON, APR 19 20211:26 PM EDT " CDC says fewer than 6,000 Americans have contracted Covid after being fully vaccinated" https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/19/cdc-says-there-have-been-less-than-6000-breakthrough-covid-cases-among-fully-vaccinated-americans.html The article you linked explain how vaccine is effective again COVID-19. Consider that COVID-19 is NOT coronavirus, COVID-19 is a disease caused by coronavirus. It’s possible that people who are fully vaccinated could still spread the virus even if they don't contract COVID, that's why quarantine is also needed for vaccinated people. I just realized @richard_smith237 explained it much better than me with a great post ???? Edited April 20, 2021 by masvil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftpjtm Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 On 4/19/2021 at 4:58 AM, Olivie said: 7 days if you are vaccinated and 10 days if you are not? Thank you but I will wait a little bit, until we don't have to do quarantine when vaccinated. 7 days quarantine before getting released into the latest lockdown in non-vaccinated Thailand. Hard pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 hours ago, masvil said: The article you linked explain how vaccine is effective again COVID-19. Consider that COVID-19 is NOT coronavirus, COVID-19 is a disease caused by coronavirus. It’s possible that people who are fully vaccinated could still spread the virus even if they don't contract COVID, that's why quarantine is also needed for vaccinated people. I just realized @richard_smith237 explained it much better than me with a great post ???? There is a big difference between possible and probable. Many things in life are possible , they are called acceptable risks. We take one every time we cross the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Zweistein Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 10 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said: Wow - you don't miss a trick do you..... No, at home they call me tricky dicky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 On 4/18/2021 at 7:35 PM, crazykopite said: If you’ve got a vaccine certificate there is absolutely no need to quarantine Thailand can kiss goodbye to tourists for 2021 if they continue with this ridiculous policy . What’s the point of having a vaccine in the first place if countries continue to insist on quarantine All it takes is one breakthrough case to spark it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, Albert Zweistein said: No, at home they call me tricky dicky. With modern medical technology you know they can straighten it out. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Zweistein Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, sirineou said: With modern medical technology you know they can straighten it out. ???? I know, I did 60 years ago but that was still old technology with 2 horses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgMech Cowboy Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 What's missing in all this is why a person who has had COVID19 and recovered should have to be vaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bshimself Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 On 4/19/2021 at 2:35 AM, crazykopite said: If you’ve got a vaccine certificate there is absolutely no need to quarantine Thailand can kiss goodbye to tourists for 2021 if they continue with this ridiculous policy . What’s the point of having a vaccine in the first place if countries continue to insist on quarantine Yeah but they dont get it - are sure we all wil do anything to TH - " dirty farangs" and be treated like the pure <deleted> - like we wil beg them ? let them sink deeper maybe they wil understand it- but I doubt. . How about Vietnam ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hioctane Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 On 4/20/2021 at 11:49 PM, AgMech Cowboy said: What's missing in all this is why a person who has had COVID19 and recovered should have to be vaccinated. Because the antibodies wear off over time. Even vaccine effectiveness will wear off in 6 months to a year and we will need to get boosters. It will be a lot easier to get boosters if it lumped with the flu shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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