unblocktheplanet Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Shuya said: Stop putting people in hospitals just because they test positive. I could not disagree more. A great percentage of infections are in-family or in-household or in-workplace. These people need to be isolated, even if asymptomatic, in order to protect others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 So the good news in a few days will tell us that infection rates have gone down...and the general population will think everything is getting better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naturesway Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Will they ever grow some brain to understand there is only way to stop this covid bs is if they stop pcr testing the people. If they would do that then we could go back to normal only 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Naturesway said: Will they ever grow some brain to understand there is only way to stop this covid bs is if they stop pcr testing the people. If they would do that then we could go back to normal only Would all those Covid patients in ICU and seriously ill do a miraculous normalization too? As they have currently filled all the beds in Bangkok and there's none left to care for more who are also critically ill with covid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Any plans or committes getting prepared to issues plans to the COVID-19 control committee and the Anutin health and weed department. Everything is under control. Its like the 3 stooges are running the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 10 hours ago, Jimbo2014 said: Yes its completely bizarre - I dont know of any other country doing this. China 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordchild Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) plenty of empty/closed hotels in Bangkok and around the country. Some hotels are being used already for mild covid or recovering cases. Also many hotels have already had the experience of being used as part of the ASQ scheme , and occupancy has fallen for many of these. As i understand it, hotel room supply (for positive covid cases) is limited because of strict health and safety and other Government mandated requirements. Some of these requirements look ridiculously gold plated in the current (emergency) environment eg as well as nursing and medical care the hotel also needs to ensure that patients have access to a psychologist! This nonsense needs to be stopped; the basic requirement is beds to allow for isolation in the first instance, then more serious cases can be moved to hospital . The government should use emergency powers to take over 10/20000 rooms in Bangkok, compensating the hotels at some minimal level but then the government should take on full responsibility for all additional medical services. public and private hospitals should be instructed to work with the hotel facilities in their area and provide nursing and medical staff to support. Let the underemployed private hospital staff do something useful rather than sitting on their backside all day! Edited June 25, 2021 by wordchild 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron jeremy Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Certainly not hearing from the crowd telling us about the world class health care system in Thailand! Pretty silent? still very much third world ????! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenwich Boy Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 There are 130k tourists arriving in Phuket allegedly. 3 Covid tests each is pushing 400k tests. Where are these coming from and what will they cost? Having done the tests here they are no fun. I suspect the sandbox will go ahead as so much face has been invested but it is going to be an almighty shambles if anyone actually turns up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordchild Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, wordchild said: plenty of empty/closed hotels in Bangkok and around the country. Some hotels are being used already for mild covid or recovering cases. Also many hotels have already had the experience of being used as part of the ASQ scheme , and occupancy has fallen for many of these. As i understand it, hotel room supply (for positive covid cases) is limited because of strict health and safety and other Government mandated requirements. Some of these requirements look ridiculously gold plated in the current (emergency) environment eg as well as nursing and medical care the hotel also needs to ensure that patients have access to a psychologist! This nonsense needs to be stopped; the basic requirement is beds to allow for isolation in the first instance, then more serious cases can be moved to hospital . The government should use emergency powers to take over 10/20000 rooms in Bangkok, compensating the hotels at some minimal level but then the government should take on full responsibility for all additional medical services. public and private hospitals should be instructed to work with the hotel facilities in their area and provide nursing and medical staff to support. Let the underemployed private hospital staff do something useful rather than sitting on their backside all day! And what about all the huge soapy massage places, currently closed. Plenty of unused rooms in those. The government should take them over as well. Maybe some of the former staff could even be persuaded to return to help out with patients who have been isolating for too long. Obviously they would need to wear a full PPE suit over their normal working attire, but, even with these restrictions, they would still likely be more beneficial than clinical psychologists! Edited June 25, 2021 by wordchild 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben2talk Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 I actually know folks who paid 4000 to get tested 'for piece of mind'... knowing full well that, even if they're not sick, they'd get locked up in a hospital for the duration. It's ridiculous that everyone tested positive must get a bed - that leaves no beds for the sick - and it's even more ridiculous that they'll shut everyone else out, including people who are sick!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben2talk Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 21 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said: I could not disagree more. A great percentage of infections are in-family or in-household or in-workplace. These people need to be isolated, even if asymptomatic, in order to protect others. But NOT in hospitals!!! Extra rooms could be found to isolate people who are not ill. They also don't need isolating unless they're living with other people - many people live alone here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben2talk Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 There's another story - my wife went and had her first AZ shot, minutes later she was lying down with a high heartrate (153) and developed a fever - she was shipped to a hospital who said there were no more beds. When she said she would PAY (i.e. not as a government patient) they actually said they'd check to see if there were beds for her... but obviously they couldn't suddenly come up with one so they still turned her away. I'm curious how many folks in the hospitals don't actually have COVID but are reacting to the vaccine? and how many beds are not available for government patients. Certainly Princ seems to have 6 floors of wards with no lights on above the 11th floor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excel Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, ben2talk said: There's another story - my wife went and had her first AZ shot, minutes later she was lying down with a high heartrate (153) and developed a fever - she was shipped to a hospital who said there were no more beds. When she said she would PAY (i.e. not as a government patient) they actually said they'd check to see if there were beds for her... but obviously they couldn't suddenly come up with one so they still turned her away. I'm curious how many folks in the hospitals don't actually have COVID but are reacting to the vaccine? and how many beds are not available for government patients. Certainly Princ seems to have 6 floors of wards with no lights on above the 11th floor. But never mind that, how is your wife now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Seems like a neck-jerk, head into the sand, solution! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 On 6/24/2021 at 5:01 PM, Shuya said: Stop putting people in hospitals just because they test positive. What a great idea. This will stop hospital overcrowding. It will reduce the infection numbers, save money on test kits, and force people to be vigilant and self isolate at home. A quick visit to the local temple to receive a blessing might help to spread the word to other people to do the same. Don't forget to visit the local pharmacy for a bag of colored pills to make sure your treating the right thing. On 6/24/2021 at 5:01 PM, Shuya said: Stop putting people in hospitals just because they test positive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 On 6/25/2021 at 6:47 PM, ben2talk said: There's another story - my wife went and had her first AZ shot, minutes later she was lying down with a high heartrate (153) and developed a fever - she was shipped to a hospital who said there were no more beds. When she said she would PAY (i.e. not as a government patient) they actually said they'd check to see if there were beds for her... but obviously they couldn't suddenly come up with one so they still turned her away. I'm curious how many folks in the hospitals don't actually have COVID but are reacting to the vaccine? and how many beds are not available for government patients. Certainly Princ seems to have 6 floors of wards with no lights on above the 11th floor. Not enough staff could be one reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 23 minutes ago, kiwikeith said: What a great idea. This will stop hospital overcrowding. It will reduce the infection numbers, save money on test kits, and force people to be vigilant and self isolate at home. A quick visit to the local temple to receive a blessing might help to spread the word to other people to do the same. Don't forget to visit the local pharmacy for a bag of colored pills to make sure your treating the right thing. The 2 people who I know in England who got covid they were sent home to self isolate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Just curious. If you quit testing people, how do you know how many beds you need to add? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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