Popular Post snoop1130 Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 Photo by Christof STACHE / AFP The Infectious Disease Association of Thailand (IDAT) is calling on the Thai government to procure mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, instead of China’s Sinovac, citing concerns over the Chinese vaccine’s efficacy against new variants, especially the virulent Delta strain. The IDAT submitted a letter addressed to Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha today (Wednesday), explaining that Sinovac is a whole virus vaccine, which may not be effective against the Delta or other new variants, citing lack of formal research into this type of vaccine, and that previous assessments were made when the Alpha variant was dominant. The whole virus vaccine uses inactivated pathogens to trigger an immune response. Another Chinese vaccine Thailand has imported, privately through Chulabhorn Royal Academy, is Sinopharm, which is another vaccine of this type. Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/experts-call-for-thai-government-to-procure-mrna-vaccines-instead-of-sinovac/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2021-06-30 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 But . . . the brown envelopes are coming much faster and thicker with Sinovac. 18 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Justgrazing Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 minute ago, snoop1130 said: The IDAT submitted a letter addressed to Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha today (Wednesday), explaining that Sinovac is a whole virus vaccine, which may not be effective against the Delta or other new variants, citing lack of formal research into this type of vaccine, and that previous assessments were made when the Alpha variant was dominant. Blimey rocking the boat abit with that .. expect a " t'was misunderstanding that's all and there is nothing to see here so move along " type clarification in the coming days .. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipper Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Comes from the approach adopted. Either they weren't advised properly or they didn't heed informed facts that virus mutation is unpredictable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djayz Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 As if he cares. Pretty sure he's had his vaccination (of choice) a long time ago. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RotBenz8888 Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 45 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: which may not be effective against the Delta or other new variants, Thailand has a long long way to go before things are under (real)control. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rimmer Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 A misleading troll post has been removed. Any posts or topics which our moderation team deems to be scaremongering, deliberately misleading or has been posted to deliberately distort information will be removed without warning. You may also be subject to a posting suspension or have your profile permanently suspended from the site. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blumpie Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 Sinovac looks like junk to me, and it's been shown that it hardly protects you at all compared to the other vaccines. Plus a story of gunky vaccine showing up. Yikes! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blumpie Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, RotBenz8888 said: Thailand has a long long way to go before things are under (real)control. This simple sentence has so much meaning. I figure ten million doses every month for an entire to get herd immunity. They are nowhere even close to this. Spurts of five million doses is nothing. A steady supply needs to be had. And they don't even have the workers to administer ten million doses a month. I think it will be more than a year even if a miracle somehow happens. Again, time will tell. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 the message in the OP is pretty clear and someting many on here have been saying for several weeks - the Chinese vaccines are useless against these new and possibly furure variants - medical experts are telling you this - why are you ignoring them Prayut 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ripstanley Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 I will have to get new glasses. I thought it said Expats and I started laughing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 Did not see that coming. Cracks appearing by the day. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 Give it 6 months and Thailand's warehouses will be full to overflowing with tons of this expiring Chinese rubbish. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 A troll post has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soikhaonoiken Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 There is not enough back handers if we buy other vaccine... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The Infectious Disease Association of Thailand (IDAT) is calling on the Thai government to procure mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, instead of China’s Sinovac, citing concerns over the Chinese vaccine’s efficacy against new variants, especially the virulent Delta strain. Ain't going to happen, Sino-something is all they can get hold of.. procuring anything else will take time and money... both of which the government is running out of. 120 days to open the nation is his plan, getting vaccines imported and injected in time will not fit the plan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2021 12 hours ago, smedly said: the message in the OP is pretty clear and someting many on here have been saying for several weeks - the Chinese vaccines are useless against these new and possibly furure variants - medical experts are telling you this - why are you ignoring them Prayut No plan B? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Isaan sailor Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2021 Disaster in the making: if people in the tourist and transportation industries get only Chinese SinoVac shots—word will spread in the west. Who in their right mind (besides other SinoVac-shot tourists) would visit, knowing the deficiencies of SinoVac? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 This piece of "expert advice", sound as it is, comes many months too late. A bit like advising to dredge Bangkok's canals when the roads are already flooded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 16 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said: Thailand has a long long way to go before things are under (real)control. I'm sure this will help. When the new Chinese tourist come here shortly, I hope they test them for Swine flu as well, as there is a big outbreak in china amongst other things that can kill us. But Hey, we need the money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Litlos Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2021 Is interesting to compare the results of various vaccines in real time. I used the John Hopkins site for data as it has daily cases vs vaccinations, unfortunately does not show percentage of the population for vaccination data. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html So comparing to completely different countries where I just happen to know which vaccine is being used. Country #1 Israel (don't choke on your weeties) initiated a coordinated and well planned vaccination rollout using Pfizer. Now virtually back to normal ie low daily cases. For reference https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01018-7/fulltext Country #2 Indonesia, probably more similar to Thailand in climate economics, but a far more advanced vaccination program. Is rolling out as best they can Chinese vaccines and some AZ. No noticeable change in daily profiles for contracting or dying. Country #3 Thailand. A shambolic response that was supposed to use predominantly AZ and is now buying another 28million Sinovac. There is an option at some point to pay for an alternative vaccine, but you will be raped by the hospitals (TIT). Personally I will bide my time and get a western vaccine thank you very much. This was done as a comparison, if you wish to see other comparisons, Google or the site referenced are there. Cheers 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiChai Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 I suspect the rich and powerful running the government don't care about the average Thai. mrna is the way to go, although you can understanding the thinking behind the AZ vaccine: get a vaccine out as quick as possible thats cheap to produce and can be used for mass vaccination in a pandemic. I have had both AZ shots and it does make you feel unwell after the first shot (also lots of people I know experienced this); wife has had the first Pfzier shot and she had no side effects and science shows the mrna vaccines are much better than the traditional vaccines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas J Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Now is there any true reason why only predominately Sinovac is available in Thailand. Now which word would be the most accurate, Bribery or Coercion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Bit late there Dr. Van Winkle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John Drake Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 20 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The Infectious Disease Association of Thailand (IDAT) is calling on the Thai government to procure mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, instead of China’s Sinovac, As AZ isn't an mRNA vaccine either, doesn't that mean also shifting away from it and to Moderna/Pfizer? But I bet there is a problem with doing that, isn't there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Drake Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2021 Just imagine. Had Thailand made an initial investment in bringing Moderna and Pfizer into the country, instead of the other vaccines, Thailand would now be a Southeast Asian showcase of advanced medicine and patient care. Combine the mRNA vaccines with the initial Covid lockdown success and Thailand would have received the sort of good publicity that no amount of money could buy. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlandtday Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, John Drake said: Just imagine. Had Thailand made an initial investment in bringing Moderna and Pfizer into the country, instead of the other vaccines, Thailand would now be a Southeast Asian showcase of advanced medicine and patient care. Combine the mRNA vaccines with the initial Covid lockdown success and Thailand would have received the sort of good publicity that no amount of money could buy. Not exactly the virus is mutating and many are still getting Covid. I would not be so optimistic or cofident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) Sinovac has the lowest efficacy rating and is the most controversial ! Stands to reason, to go with the best (M or P vacc)while I hide out in my Shangri-La moo barn up here in Sakon Nakhon ,waiting for it to arrive! Edited July 1, 2021 by riclag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Drake Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Just now, tlandtday said: Not exactly the virus is mutating and many are still getting Covid. I would not be so optimistic or cofident. The danger area in which Covid is mutating, it seems to me, is in one locale. India. Delta and Delta Plus do not refer to skymiles. Whatever people want to say about the Chinese (and it was their initial lax response and coverup which went a long ways in making this a worldwide pandemic), their subsequent actions have worked. They may be draconian, but their lockdowns and lockouts seem to be successful. Contrast that with India. That country seems to be turning into a petri dish for Covid. The world should have locked out India, but it's too late now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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