Ireland32 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Today’s news in USA is Pfizer efficacy isn’t the fix- all vaccine against Indian Variant, Moderna is very good , I’m very fortunate to have received 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WingFat Posted July 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 "Thailand will order an additional 10 million doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, its health ministry said on Friday, as the Southeast Asian country battles its biggest COVID-19 outbreak to date."...and I plan to enter the Tokyo Olympics to replace Simone Biles in the women's overall gymnastics...I think I have about as good a chance in that as Thailand does in actually ordering the vaccines and administering them in an efficient manner. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 “The best laid schemes o’ mice an’ men. Gang aft a-gley” Robert Burns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lks7689 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ireland32 said: Today’s news in USA is Pfizer efficacy isn’t the fix- all vaccine against Indian Variant, Moderna is very good , I’m very fortunate to have received I got the moderna too but it doesn't matter much because we are all affected one way or another if the rest gets sick. The recent CDC revelation that Delta variant is as transmissible as chicken pox is very worrying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WingFat Posted July 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ireland32 said: Today’s news in USA is Pfizer efficacy isn’t the fix- all vaccine against Indian Variant, Moderna is very good , I’m very fortunate to have received Yep, you and me both. I get a big laugh from all the US-haters on this forum when they come to realize that the US has produced the most effective vaccine to date...under the leadership of that guy they all love to hate. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 U.S. Charge d'Affaires in Thailand Michael Heath said at a separate briefing that the United States would send one million doses of an unspecified COVID-19 vaccine in addition to that batch. So perhaps that was the deal here—order 10 million more Pfizer, and US will kick in another donation of a million Pfizer/Moderna/J&J. A little hardball from the USA? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, WingFat said: Yep, you and me both. I get a big laugh from all the US-haters on this forum when they come to realize that the US has produced the most effective vaccine to date...under the leadership of that guy they all love to hate. the second part of pfizer vaccine is BioNTech, that from the german company, which first worked on development of mRNA. To scale up research they partnered with pfizer. non of posts above are about the us-hate. trump, under whom this vaccine was developed, but without any of his support (fda gave $1bln to moderna, nothing to pfizer) is hated much more in the usa itself, than from all different foreigners living in thailand. He is goner and forgotten already 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DBath Posted July 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 24 minutes ago, WingFat said: Yep, you and me both. I get a big laugh from all the US-haters on this forum when they come to realize that the US has produced the most effective vaccine to date...under the leadership of that guy they all love to hate. Oh, but they will line up and sing Xi Jinping’s praises and hail to Sinovac!!! And tell you how great it is - even how great China is…what a croc of propaganda. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBath Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 29 minutes ago, lks7689 said: I got the moderna too but it doesn't matter much because we are all affected one way or another if the rest gets sick. The recent CDC revelation that Delta variant is as transmissible as chicken pox is very worrying. Would you mind sharing the link? I just moved to Spain and am not yet at the point of making a final decision on any vax, but this info may force my hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kwonitoy Posted July 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 I know its coincidence but when vaccines are donated they arrive to great fanfare the next day on a jet, from America for instance. When they are paying there own money the vaccines are "on order" and will arrive "later" or next year ???? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nattaya09 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 At least donations are happening. I suppose the Pfizer's will be saved as boosters for the favored population 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, DBath said: Oh, but they will line up and sing Xi Jinping’s praises and hail to Sinovac!!! And tell you how great it is - even how great China is…what a croc of propaganda. But, so far, you are peddling nationalistic and statist propaganda in this thread. It's about pfizer order - nothing to do with sinovac, it's efficacy, about which political leaders are the best or which country is your favourite 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I think the tide’s turning in favor of Pfizer/Moderna vaccines. We can pat ourselves on the back here on T.V., but in reality the praise and recognition should go to all the Thai media. Even in the farm villages now, people know the difference in vaccines. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 26 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said: So perhaps that was the deal here—order 10 million more Pfizer, and US will kick in another donation of a million Pfizer/Moderna/J&J. A little hardball from the USA? Not seeing any quid pro quo on this additional 1 mm. Could be Moderna, Pfizer or J&J, all are approved here. U.S. gave 3 mm Moderna to Vietnam last week, in addition to the 2 mm Moderna delivered to Vietnam earlier this month. U.S. gave 1 mm Pfizer to Malaysia earlier this month (delivered). U.S. gave 4.5 mm Moderna to Indonesia. Most via COVAX. Too much to keep up with. But I think the additional doses are likely to be Pfizer, just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 15 hours ago, bbko said: 10 mil doses? I didn't realize there were that many Thai hi-so's in the country? It's OK. They just think they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBath Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, internationalism said: But, so far, you are peddling nationalistic and statist propaganda in this thread. It's about pfizer order - nothing to do with sinovac, it's efficacy, about which political leaders are the best or which country is your favourite Nope, I was responding to Isaan Sailor’s post. And if you’re intention is to scare me by tying my comments the article regarding the spread of misinformation, think again. I no longer live in the LOS, nor do I ever plan to return. You can have it - enjoy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, internationalism said: the second part of pfizer vaccine is BioNTech, that from the german company, which first worked on development of mRNA. To scale up research they partnered with pfizer. non of posts above are about the us-hate. trump, under whom this vaccine was developed, but without any of his support (fda gave $1bln to moderna, nothing to pfizer) is hated much more in the usa itself, than from all different foreigners living in thailand. He is goner and forgotten already Not what my American friends tell me. But they are all pro Donald. ???? Edited July 31, 2021 by nauseus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dont confuse me Posted July 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 I can't recall the exact numbers but I can recall the junta and his pals constantly saying 10, 000,000 of this or 10 mil of that is on order or expecting delivery of vast quantities from USA or China which in my humble opinion would be more than sufficient to give ALL the population at least 1 dose of vaccine. I can't be bothered to give exact figures or indeed dates as I've actually got other things I'd rather be doing than collating the lies being fed by the idiots in charge. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gejohesch Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 6 hours ago, vandeventer said: With all these vaccines coming in why don't they make it easier for those who don't live near private Hospitals. Like let your local doctor order the vaccines and give them to you at a little higher cost This would stop long lines at the hospitals and more people would vaccinate. Can you imagine the logistics of transporting and keeping these vaccine doses at the right temperature? I would never trust getting jabs from any local doctor in a small city anywhere in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 54 minutes ago, gejohesch said: Can you imagine the logistics of transporting and keeping these vaccine doses at the right temperature? I would never trust getting jabs from any local doctor in a small city anywhere in Thailand. Not all western vaccines need 70 below temperatures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gejohesch Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, vandeventer said: Not all western vaccines need 70 below temperatures. Even if vaccines need only to be kept, say, at -10 (Celsius), I still would have worrying doubts about taking jabs from a doctor practice in the nearest city to where I am (20-30,000 inhabitants), not to mention in its public hospital (I have visited a few times, no comment). I was also replying to a post mentioning Pfizer. As far as I know, it still requires very low temperatures, and once taken out will only be good for a few hours. Now, I'm not a pro on this, I have to admit. Edited July 31, 2021 by gejohesch adding a line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, gejohesch said: Even if vaccines need only to be kept, say, at -10 (Celsius), I still would have worrying doubts about taking jabs from a doctor practice in the nearest city to where I am (20-30,000 inhabitants), not to mention in its public hospital (I have visited a few times, no comment). I was also replying to a post mentioning Pfizer. As far as I know, it still requires very low temperatures, and once taken out will only be good for a few hours. Now, I'm not a pro on this, I have to admit. Please guys do some research. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-allows-more-flexible-storage-transportation-conditions-pfizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gejohesch Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 19 minutes ago, vandeventer said: Please guys do some research. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-allows-more-flexible-storage-transportation-conditions-pfizer Thanks. Good read. I was aware that some easing up of transport and storage conditions had been allowed recently. However, this still mentions "undiluted frozen vials" and that's where I have a nagging doubt. Mainly about "frozen". I am just not confident that "incidents / accidents" would never occur all the way to me getting a jab in the local little city in Thailand. Sorry, as much as I have seen excellent medical facilities in Thailand, I also have seen too much of the "developing nation" side of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhounan Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 The Pfizer vaccine will go to the young protesters so they will be happy and "immunized". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Problem is the country needs at least 150 million vaccines to jab everyone twice as those who already had the Chinese jab are now going to have an additional AZ jab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhounan Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) I'm still waiting to read the still-secret contracts. Warning Jim Smith is a board member of Pfizer and President of the Thomson Reuters Foundation. Edited July 31, 2021 by zhounan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 23 hours ago, Upnotover said: They're definitely going to need a bigger fridge. Luckily for Thailand... https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-brief-fda-authorizes-longer-time-refrigerator-storage-thawed-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBath Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 7 hours ago, vandeventer said: Please guys do some research. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-allows-more-flexible-storage-transportation-conditions-pfizer You lost me at ‘fda.gov’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 On 7/31/2021 at 9:56 AM, Saddic said: Just g'ed it... Thailand shipping 120-150m doses export... (or targeted to)... 10m doses inflow not even a drop in the bucket... What they gonna do for the next 10 days??? TIT Poking noses and looking stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwaibill Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Have they actually ordered any yet? I read that Pfizer denied any contact from one group that said they were in "negotiations". Donations, e.g. from the US, don't count as the basis for "ordering more". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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