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Thai Transport Ministry Seeks Development of Battery Powered Railcars


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BANGKOK (NNT) - Thailand’s Transport Ministry is pushing ahead with the procurement and development of battery powered electric railcars, with the aim of having them running by 2023.

 

Minister Saksayam Chidchob said the Department of Rail Transport (DRT) and the State Railway of Thailand (SRT) have been tasked with setting up a procurement plan, as well as working out an operation budget. The SRT is also cooperating with educational institutes, to come up with a design for battery powered electric railcars, which will make their debut at the Bang Sue Grand Station.

 

He pointed out that the Transport Ministry will study and design the new railcars this year, convert fossil-fueled locomotives into battery powered ones in 2022 and conduct trial runs in 2023. DRT, SRT, Railway Technology Development Institute and educational institutions are set to turn the four existing GEK, or Alsthom locomotives, into battery powered ones by 2023.

 

According to Mr. Saksayam, the procurement plan for these railcars will run until 2024, and the ministry is also planning to procure 20 battery powered shunting locomotives during that period.

 

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7 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

Great idea. Batteries. Ever heard of electric cables running above tracks?

Batteries have considerable loss from charge to discharge, some 30%+. They are also full of toxic materials when eventually they expire, and finally, they are costly. Tesla S has tiny battery compared to what the train on picture above would need and that's a 16,000$ expense for 1. I think this is not a particularly well thought through idea.

Bangkok had electric trams up until the late 1960,s . Maybe some of the spaghetti wiring in existence is remnants of ?

Battery powered? A red herring for exorbitant funding of a misguided concept? If  transport system is fixed to rails then the motivation energy source can be fixed to it if electric. A backup battery source in the event of primary source failure could be practical in an emergency sense 

 

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24 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

Great idea. Batteries. Ever heard of electric cables running above tracks?

Batteries have considerable loss from charge to discharge, some 30%+. They are also full of toxic materials when eventually they expire, and finally, they are costly. Tesla S has tiny battery compared to what the train on picture above would need and that's a 16,000$ expense for 1. I think this is not a particularly well thought through idea.

I had a cockwork train as a child, put kee in wind up and it would run for a bit.I realize may need stronger arms , but could this be at he key or steam generated by hot air?

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16 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

He pointed out that the Transport Ministry will study and design the new railcars this year, convert fossil-fueled locomotives into battery powered ones in 2022 and conduct trial runs in 2023. DRT, SRT, Railway Technology Development Institute and educational institutions are set to turn the four existing GEK, or Alsthom locomotives, into battery powered ones by 2023.

Unbelievable! They will 'study and design the new railcars THIS YEAR' Then covert existing diesel locks to battery power NEXT YEAR and do trial runs the following year (2023). The ramblings of a lunatic or just inept reporting?

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Sounds like the idea a few years ago, all the old Busses were going to have electric motors..

 

Wonder what happened to that idea.......?

 

 Guess will try to remember to look in 2024 what happened to battery trains ????

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15 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

A decade late. ETS (electric train service) trains have been running in Malaysia since 2010. Smooth and quiet ride. 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/KTM_ETS

Yes but.... in Malaysia they are not powered by monstrously large batteries, but rather overhead power lines. Minister actually is pushing for battery operated trains. Same same but different...

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1 minute ago, tomazbodner said:

Yes but.... in Malaysia they are not powered by monstrously large batteries, but rather overhead power lines. Minister actually is pushing for battery operated trains. Same same but different...

Reading up it seems these will operate much like hybrid cars do.

 

The batteries will only come into play where overhead cables are impractical for whatever reason.

 

 

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They'll need some very large batteries.

 

In this heat and there crash record I'd prefer to travel on a traditional diesal locomotion.

 

Batteries can be quite volatile.

 

Anyway it promises to be an extremely expensive endeavor and definitely line a lot of pockets before they realize this is a bad idea.

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18 hours ago, RubbaJohnny said:

Is this a phuea thaao lady with a red rag walking in front or a new fish fuel, if so a krilliant idea, the exhausts could be fed to pussies.

Red rag, Fish, Pussies i need a lye down.

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Battery locamotives have been used in the UK since 1905, although they were used for hauling engineers' trains on the London underground, rather than passenger services. I remember seeing them in use on the old Alexandra Palace to Finsbury Park route when it was still open, transferring train stock between lines.

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