Save our Sandbox! MoPH send crisis team to Phuket as migrants blamed for infections

[Millcx]

4 hours ago, Eibot said:

Lack of restrictions and people living their lives more or less normally due to being vaccinated (and rightfully so), brings many infections. Vaccinations don't stop the spread but only prevents most severe cases. And we see this back in severe cases (hardly any). 

Time to let green patients quarantine at home, open the schools and let the tourist have their holiday. Only let fully vaccinated people on the island and monitor hospitalization of people with symptoms instead of solely infections. 

This has to be approach if they want to open Thailand next month. They seem scared and are still focused on X amount of cases found in X area. This approach only works pre-vaccines. We are past that.

With vaccinations you walk on the line of not overwhelming the healthcare system and without destroying the economy. Time to show some balls. 

100% the only way forward .. Get the economy kickstarted and stop cowering away from the Hung Kung Fooey Flu

[kiwikeith]

4 hours ago, Eibot said:

Lack of restrictions and people living their lives more or less normally due to being vaccinated (and rightfully so), brings many infections. Vaccinations don't stop the spread but only prevents most severe cases. And we see this back in severe cases (hardly any). 

Time to let green patients quarantine at home, open the schools and let the tourist have their holiday. Only let fully vaccinated people on the island and monitor hospitalization of people with symptoms instead of solely infections. 

This has to be approach if they want to open Thailand next month. They seem scared and are still focused on X amount of cases found in X area. This approach only works pre-vaccines. We are past that.

With vaccinations you walk on the line of not overwhelming the healthcare system and without destroying the economy. Time to show some balls. 

Don't breath! that will stop spread 100% guaranteed, caution this may cause serious illness or death.

 

1 person caused NZ to go into it's latest Delta lockdown.

 

13 cases detected today. 19 in hospital, 4 in ICU nearly 1000 cases since the first detection (case 1)

 

1 death sadly a 99 yr old.

 

1 country in serious depression and economic hardship, they call this lockdown kiwi style.

 

Sadly the uncontrolled slave labor market has not been noted by Thai media as causing outbreaks of Delta.

1 thing is certain, it travels through the air, so if you can control breathing then you control Delta.

[wensiensheng]

I’m not sure what Phuket having 200 plus cases a day has to do with the sandbox, or tourist arrival per se.

 

sandbox tourists are a minuscule part of the island population at any given time and the positive cases from that minuscule part of the population is even more a minuscule part of the daily case count.

 

I also don’t see what difference a couple of hundred cases a day is going to make to the decision making process of tourists. Most are coming from countries that have much higher case counts, they have been double vaccinated and most have lived fairly normally with Covid all around in their home countries. Not being able to have an enjoyable holiday due to Covid restrictions placed on them when they arrive is far more likely a turn off for them.

 

if the Thai authorities are sending an expert team to Phuket to save anything, how about saving the education of the kids by opening up schools? Isn’t enough of the population vaccinated by now?

[MrJ2U]

Some blame the poor vaccine used.

 

 

[crazykopite]

It’s never Thais to blame it always the dirty migrants who are to blame ☹️☹️

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

He blamed the infections on migrant workers who have come into the province to work causing the spread in communities where they live.

I can't print my thoughts, but I'm not in agreement with them.

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, ChipButty said:

then in Rawai the authorities lock down the gypsy village infact they have boarded the place up so nobody can leave, They are Thai arn't they? 

Only when it suits as a tourist visit, otherwise they're gypsies.

[Bobydog]

5 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

I'm confused. I thought all tourists were tested and ALL people entering the province - so how come the migrant workers weren't ? They cannot spread it if they were tested and found on  entry. Just possible blame game to me

Very good question!

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, Will B Good said:

So tourists, whom they are desperate to attract to the Island are tested to death, but migrant workers are allowed to just swarm in with no testing at all......is that correct?

The migrants were allowed in to continue all the construction projects, but in Thai style they didn't qualify for testing or vaccinating.

Phuket has scored another own goal.

[sapson]

What do they expect Covid is rife throughout the population nationwide, Thailand doesnt have some magical exemption from the pandemic by installing temp machines at 7/11 and wearing masks.

 

A  ludicrously miniscule testing program and an initially pedestrian vaccination rollout leaves Thailand trailing in the Covid stakes but the Junta prefer to ignore reality in favor of keeping their heads in the trough.

[Deli]

5 hours ago, Eibot said:

Lack of restrictions and people living their lives more or less normally due to being vaccinated (and rightfully so), brings many infections. Vaccinations don't stop the spread but only prevents most severe cases. And we see this back in severe cases (hardly any). 

Time to let green patients quarantine at home, open the schools and let the tourist have their holiday. Only let fully vaccinated people on the island and monitor hospitalization of people with symptoms instead of solely infections. 

This has to be approach if they want to open Thailand next month. They seem scared and are still focused on X amount of cases found in X area. This approach only works pre-vaccines. We are past that.

With vaccinations you walk on the line of not overwhelming the healthcare system and without destroying the economy. Time to show some balls. 

If we agree now on vaccines not preventing the spread but reducing the sypmtoms only, the entire vaxx hype is nothing else than feeding the pharma industry and media, plus empowerig Governments to apply insane restrictions. If one decides not being vaccinated, according to this situation, one only can harm oneself and this is everybodies individual choice. Ergo, same rules everywhere for vaccinated or unvaccinated people, anything else is just blind dictorship by those in power.

Edited September 16, 2021 by Deli

[Ginner]

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

And how do those ‘migrant’ scapegoats workers get onto the island while unvaccinated and untested?

 

Someone is letting them through. Who is really to blame ????? We all know the answer, those taking money to allow them on to the Island and those people are most certainly Thai’s in a position of (relative) power. 

 

As always, migrant workers are the focus of blame and the utter hypocrisy continues. 

 

 

 

Sat in immigration wait to do my 90 days. gentleman walks in goes straight to a counter, no ticket number. hands over an envelope and out pop about 13 passports and 2 bundles of notes. 4 immigration officers counting the money ( that's how much they trust each other) leaving one officer to stamp the passports, (I'm still waiting)  Only after had the money been counted did the gentleman get his passports back and off he went. I'm still waiting, 15 mins later they look at me and suddenly remember they have a customer.

 

[raccos21]

Poor migrant workers!

[Cake Monster]

5 hours ago, smedly said:

they insist on testing the most unlikely source for the virus - fully vaccinated foreign tourists - I think they found a total of 3 out of 30,000 that were not infected through community spread in Phuket - I said weeks ago covid was rampant on the Island 

Covid is indeed rampant on Phuket Island. It always has been since the start of the outbreak in April.

However, it has been a gamble that the TAT and Government have taken to open the Island for Tourism.

The gamble was that the outbreak could be bought under control with Vaccinations and mis truths about the number of vaccinations having been administered to create a safe environment for the Tourists and Local people alike.

The gamble has not payed off, and the Isalnd is now near a crisis over Covid.

How many Tourists have visited Phuket ? 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 or more, and spent such a small amount of Money in comparison to the Money spent pre Covid.

Is it ever worth the hurt and distress.

 

[Eibot]

1 hour ago, Deli said:

If we agree now on vaccines not preventing the spread but reducing the sypmtoms only, the entire vaxx hype is nothing else than feeding the pharma industry and media, plus empowerig Governments to apply insane restrictions. If one decides not being vaccinated, according to this situation, one only can harm oneself and this is everybodies individual choice. Ergo, same rules everywhere for vaccinated or unvaccinated people, anything else is just blind dictorship by those in power.

It's not a hype, it's the only way out.

 

Vaccinations don't stop spread but it does reduce transmission by quite a lot. It reduces deaths, long Covid19 and therefore strain on the general healthcare. Since we base the situation on hospitalizations, people not getting a vaccine are actively prolonging the implied restrictions, thus hurting the economy, which of course hurts us all in the end. 

 

[Bangkok Barry]

6 hours ago, smedly said:

Thais rarely accept blame for anything - it is infantile, from RTA's to vaccine procurement there is always something or someone to blame - in Phuket the buck stops with the Governor, he is ultimately responsible for everything that goes on - no one else

You don't understand. No-one is ever ultimately responsible. This is the way it works - someone in authority says what should happen, what he wants to happen. He has spoken, made his recommendations, and his job is done. Anything that happens later is not his responsibility. You, I, he and everyone else knows that what is said will be ignored and is unenforceable, but that is not the point. He has acted, done what he considers to be his job, while actually doing nothing. This happens all the time, at least once a week. Someone makes a declaration and the next day it's ignored and forgotten. But that person has done their job by 'acting'. So in effect the Governor is blameless.

Edited September 16, 2021 by Bangkok Barry

[Andycoops]

Well if the Thais weren't so lazy and the employers so greedy, by paying low wages, there wouldn't be any migrant workers here to blame.

As usual the local Thais can't be blamed as they obviously don't catch and spread the virus.

 

[Bangkok Barry]

Another headline today:

Illegal migrants arrested at holding house in Pranburi were on their way to work in Phuket.

 

Sort out one problem and you might solve the other.

[Grusa]

Was this a mop(h)-up operation?

[Gandtee]

7 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

I'm confused. I thought all tourists were tested and ALL people entering the province - so how come the migrant workers weren't ? They cannot spread it if they were tested and found on  entry. Just possible blame game to me

TIT????

[geisha]

Same problem with the flights with Thais returning from overseas.They are allowed in with hardly any checking. Those repatriation flights were full of infected workers. Same as the working ladies returning from Burma, and likely other countries. 

[malibukid]

7 hours ago, smedly said:

Thais rarely accept blame for anything - it is infantile, from RTA's to vaccine procurement there is always something or someone to blame - in Phuket the buck stops with the Governor, he is ultimately responsible for everything that goes on - no one else

to do so would be to loose face, messed up.

[malibukid]

7 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

As usual not "us" buth  "they"... Bad vaccination program that promised more than it really does is one of the reasons I believe.. 2 jabs Sinovac are working na 60 days only for 50 % or less, Besides, Thailand is not clear that 1  jab is NOT vaccinated, but only 2 jabs will give some protection after 2/3 weeks.. The Sandbox opened too soon as they will do with the rest of the country. They still say that 70% of the population will be vaccinated, but only so far not even 20% of the people had 2 jabs... There is still a long way to go but with the manipulated numbers nobody knows the truth and than there will be problems..... caused by....... not  "us"

scary 

[WingFat]

Monday it's the farang's fault...Tuesday is the migrant workers' fault...Wednesday it's the farang's fault...Thursday it's the migrant workers' fault, etc, etc, etc. Thus is the logic and reasoning used to assign blame for all that ills the LOS by the spotless and blameless authorities.

[thailand49]

Lack of critical thinking or call it what people want!  The spread the last few months and thereafter was the continuation of migrants coming in untested then you got the hundreds crossing in the middle of the night again untested while everyone just turn a blind eye for the $$$$ and more $$$$$  then they mix them all in with workers that aren't infected in construction site and factories when they were off work they venture to the nearest local market to buy their food and continue the spread, then when the numbers are too high like in Chon Buri  in the factories they close them while there is no work they are shuttle to other projects in other provinces thus the answer to those who ask " how did it spread " why wouldn't they tested.

 

When it comes o Phuket, they announced they will vaccinate all the residents in Phuket then they announced it was going to open when that happen everyone jump on the bus and and headed to Phuket why, if it opens there must be jobs? And this happened before they even got off the ground to vaccination outside of Phuket! 

 

That is my simple no proof of how it spread!????????

[kimamey]

7 hours ago, stevenl said:

Agree, it is migrant workers who arrived from other parts of Thailand who are to blame. They flocked back and employers were demanding staff. 

Imo these migrant workers are mainly Thai.

You're right but who's letting them in without vaccination or treating?

[leiftheswede]

The whole idea behind safety in the sandbox was that more then 70% of the residents on the island should be vaccinated.
Excluding the non resident workers defeats the whole idea.
These workers needs to be closer monitored and tested weekly until they are vaccinated and the borders have to be much tighter with PCR-testing

Before the Sandbox started the governor said that if new casas hits 100 a week they will have to reconsider. 

Now we are at 200 a day!! So the governors promises is lame to say the least.

Stopping the Sandbox now would mean a huge loss of face for the Phuket governor and the country so obviously they will let covid spread without closing down. 

[Aussieroaming]

Migrant workers covers both foreign and Thai and I guess there is some truth in the notion that returning workers bought infection with them. The Phuket authorities should have screened, tested and supported their return, then the covid wave wouldn't have been allowed to spread. Don't blame the migrant workers for the current covid numbers, instead blame the Phuket health administration for not instigating and managing a safe migrant worker return plan with the local industries on the island. 

[ifmu]

do any of you folks know where the daily covid reports are .. i do not see them anymore ????  thanks    thai or english  

[champers]

2 minutes ago, ifmu said:

do any of you folks know where the daily covid reports are .. i do not see them anymore ????  thanks    thai or english  

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