chalawaan Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, RichardColeman said: In my opinion very little foreigners will come. Those that needed to return to family etc and happy use ASQ have already come back, and the extreme rich will always do as they wish - but there are not enough of them. I'd return tomorrow if I was just flashing my vaccine card as would many others I talk to. Personally I think Thailand should host a hot air balloon festival, they'd always have enough resource ! "Opening" will do nothing to modify their convoluted Covid process, then they'll wonder why the only noises coming from the runways at Swampy will be crickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultName Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I can only speak with a Western culture perspective. Opening the city without opening the bars is pointless, Westerners won't come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 59 minutes ago, chalawaan said: 55555 It took just seven hours for this bold prediction to join the graveyard of false dawns in the delta era! The November date announcement has just hit the forums. By friday it will be December, by October it will be a grand opening in January, and the wheels on the ambulance go round and round. Chok dee skirt chasers! Got the link. Depressing. Edited September 22, 2021 by Jeffr2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkktodd Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 9 hours ago, WEBBYB808 said: I guess some bar owners, "had it on good authority," like some said and thought before, they will open soon. No way is it going to happen. There are other variables no one talks about, such as even if open there are not enough hospital beds for people who come and may need due to unforeseen issues, other than covid. Hotels are not ready, only some have sent in maintenance crews to start preparing the pipes, airconditner, cleaning up from the pest, and cats that have been livkng in these empty buildings etc... the people may want and desire just out of need, but is this really a culture that plans or implements any action for a future needs? No its a live in the moment society. Plenty of hotels are at the ready.you haven’t obviously looked at the ASQ LIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkktodd Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1oct sound great but people seem to forget that if that date holds true…it takes at least 2 weeks to get all the paper work in order since that wont be going away anytime soon. Make it 15 oct. win win for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrotobike Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Oh goody then the bars must be opening vert soon. Silly man open what to whom??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Just now, Scrotobike said: Oh goody then the bars must be opening vert soon. Silly man open what to whom??? Step by step tiger, Rome wasn't built in a day. You think there are no customers in Pattaya? What do you want?....a grand reopening of 1,000 bars and 500,000 tourists all arriving together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrotobike Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: Step by step tiger, Rome wasn't built in a day. You think there are no customers in Pattaya? What do you want?....a grand reopening of 1,000 bars and 500,000 tourists all arriving together? You compare the dirty old town Pattaya - centre of the sex industry to Rome? Ah point taken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Scrotobike said: You compare the dirty old town Pattaya - centre of the sex industry to Rome? Ah point taken LOL! Soi Khao Noi did resemble the Trevi Fountain last week................................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 12 hours ago, DefaultName said: I can only speak with a Western culture perspective. Opening the city without opening the bars is pointless, Westerners won't come. They will focus on Indians and Russians, so perhaps this has been thought about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorp13 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 20 hours ago, Jeffr2 said: There's a lot of us who want to return, but only when the ridiculous quarantine rules are relaxed. Pretty much what i was saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanuman2547 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 It would be nice if Pattaya could open on 1 Oct. I just don't see it happening yet. I think he is being a little overly optimistic. I'm really waiting for ALL of Thailand to open back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/22/2021 at 11:40 AM, bang saen guy said: Aren't restaurants closing again on 1 Oct to anyone without a vaccine passport and a handful of govt paperwork? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Hanuman2547 said: It would be nice if Pattaya could open on 1 Oct. I just don't see it happening yet. I think he is being a little overly optimistic. I'm really waiting for ALL of Thailand to open back up. It's been pushed back a month. Impossible to predict right now. Depressing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 According to the National News Bureau of Thailand, it has now been pushed back to 1st Nov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEBBYB808 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/22/2021 at 6:47 PM, Bkktodd said: Plenty of hotels are at the ready.you haven’t obviously looked at the ASQ LIST They have had plenty of domestic tourist, and they actually are content , well some of them. Many Thais are afraid international tourist will chase away domestic tourist and that international numbers will be too low. Also people have been booking rooms for two years now, but that doesnt mean they will come. It may only be the Russian and Chinese. Countries like Australia will not let there people out. So yes, seen the numbers, and I see the daily numbee of covid cases. These numbers just never seem accurate to anyone, and it being a 3rd world country impossible to get resl time information. Like, are they are getting any number outside of walkin in patients? How many test have you had? How many have your freinds had? How many of any one you know that has been tested even once for covid? So knowing this fact, we can say with certainty the numbers aren't accurate, and other countries know this too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Yogi Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/22/2021 at 10:18 AM, smedly said: really ? is that 2x jabs or 1 Not many of my Thai friends in Pattaya have had there first jab yet let alone two. Those that have had a jab are only getting Sinovac which by independent Chinese testing is only 23% effective against Delta. After a second jab of AZ immunity does improve to around 70%, so do you think tourists would risk coming here.? They need full 70-80% herd immunity first, then consider opening up. l think 1st November is more realistic. And remember even after a second jab it takes several weeks to give you good immunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinyara Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Dreamland, it's just not going to happen to any great extent for the next few months, far too many variables both inside and outside of Pattaya and Thailand's control. 1) Foreign countries own travel restrictions, slow recovery of global tourism. 2) Thailand's own entry rules and regulations. India and Russia which Pattaya is talking about as kick start markets are more short term tour orientated, will quarantine for them be totally abolished come Nov 1st ? If not they won't be coming en masse. 3) What's on offer ? Last thing on the agenda to open will be entertainment and serving of alcohol, still Pattaya's bread and butter and always how Pattaya has been marketed by TAT - Fun City . 1st November - really ? 4) The state of the place. Don't know who the Thai equivalent of Rentokil are but I think I'd be buying shares, a busy few months ahead of a re-opening, gutting, fumigating, rewiring, plumbing etc the 70-80% of premises that have been shuttered for over a year. What state must some of the big hotels catering to the mass market tour groups be in ? 5) The beach is a mess again and likely to get worse before it gets better. Is that really in an acceptable state from a tourist perspective and as a shining example of this " Neo Pattaya " that we keep hearing about, even though countless hundred's of millions has already been spent on it. I almost feel sorry for any early arrivals wherever they come from. Pattaya is not in the least bit ready to offer a quality product for foreign tourists and I doubt that will have changed much by November 1st 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 11 hours ago, kinyara said: Dreamland, it's just not going to happen to any great extent for the next few months, far too many variables both inside and outside of Pattaya and Thailand's control. Yes, but it entices tenants to pay yet another month's rent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 70 percent huh? Really? Of what? Registered residents? 1 dose or 2? What percentage Sinovac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 29 minutes ago, Jingthing said: What percentage Sinovac? I suspect the importance of this statistic will not be revealed until a later date, and if the percentage is high, it will be devastating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/22/2021 at 11:40 AM, bang saen guy said: Aren't restaurants closing again on 1 Oct to anyone without a vaccine passport and a handful of govt paperwork? Good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 11:54 AM, brewsterbudgen said: No When was that announced.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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