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After I did the CoE Pre-approved I submitted the following documents 

 

Submitted all flight details.  

Input the reference number from the SHABA certificate that the hotel sent 

Upload the PSAS PCR booking receipt. (submitted the receipt with the QR code on the sheet)

Insurance documents were already in from the first phase

 

then I got a rejected notice stating:

 

"Royal Thai Consulate-General, Los Angeles has rejected your registration/application.

Due to Good news!! FYI, from October 1st, 2021 onwards, the traveler who is going to Thailand with fully vaccinated will be quarantined only 7 nights, but for the traveler who unvaccinated will be quarantined at AQ hotel for 10 nights. If you are thinking that you still have time to change your hotel booking pls change, but if it too rush! You can ask the hotel to refund including RT-PCR Test receipt after you have arrived. Thank you"

 

It really doesn't specify what I did wrong, or am I missing something?

 

I am fully vaccinated and submitted the docs on the first phase

 

Submitted the flight details

 

I booked for 14 nights

 

And I paid for the PCR tests.

 

There must be something wrong with my booking, but I don't see it.

 

My flight leaves 13 of October and am starting to get panicky.

 

I just don't see what I did wrong here, any help would be greatly appreciated

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Well nevermind. The email I got stating that the COE was rejected just a notice of a possibility I guess, though it through me in a bit of panic, with so little time left

 

Just got the "Royal Thai Consulate-General, Los Angeles has approved your COE to enter Thailand." though the process wasn't any fun. The next go-around should be a breaz though

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12 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

"I booked for 14 nights"

 

See if you can change your booking for 7 days and resubmit?  

 

Yes, I got a notice stating that I can update by hitting the red Confirm/Edit travel button, but I don't want to touch it because I'm afraid it might mess something up. If I cut out of there to CM after the first 7 days, then it's only about a $150USD loss

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37 minutes ago, 0james0 said:

The first line...   "Royal Thai Consulate-General, Los Angeles has rejected your registration/application."

oops didn't see that...because edited it after I posted.

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The English is not really good, but basically, the consulate rejected your initial offer, as they wanted to give you the chance to change your SHA booking and reduce the number of nights to 7/10 instead of 15. Read again their full text "Good news!! FYI, from October 1st, 2021 onwards, the traveler who is going to Thailand with fully vaccinated will be quarantined only 7 nights, but for the traveler who unvaccinated will be quarantined at AQ hotel for 10 nights. If you are thinking that you still have time to change your hotel booking pls change,

Actually an almost unheard of proactive effort of a consulate to help you save money on SHA costs

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10 minutes ago, Swiss1960 said:

The English is not really good, but basically, the consulate rejected your initial offer, as they wanted to give you the chance to change your SHA booking and reduce the number of nights to 7/10 instead of 15. Read again their full text "Good news!! FYI, from October 1st, 2021 onwards, the traveler who is going to Thailand with fully vaccinated will be quarantined only 7 nights, but for the traveler who unvaccinated will be quarantined at AQ hotel for 10 nights. If you are thinking that you still have time to change your hotel booking pls change,

Actually an almost unheard of proactive effort of a consulate to help you save money on SHA costs

That actually occurred to me, but I wasn't sure what to make of it.

 

For me, it seems easier to decipher translated Thai to English in CM than it is with a some of the mangled stuff I got from the Thai consulate in LA. It might be an adaptive thing on my part.

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35 minutes ago, Swiss1960 said:

The English is not really good, but basically, the consulate rejected your initial offer, as they wanted to give you the chance to change your SHA booking and reduce the number of nights to 7/10 instead of 15.

For what it's worth, that's how I've read it, too. Not exactly very well communicated by them.

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"Yes, I got a notice stating that I can update by hitting the red Confirm/Edit travel button, but I don't want to touch it because I'm afraid it might mess something up. If I cut out of there to CM after the first 7 days, then it's only about a $150USD loss"

 

But it does not look like they will approve your COE with a 14 day booking?

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19 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

"Yes, I got a notice stating that I can update by hitting the red Confirm/Edit travel button, but I don't want to touch it because I'm afraid it might mess something up. If I cut out of there to CM after the first 7 days, then it's only about a $150USD loss"

 

But it does not look like they will approve your COE with a 14 day booking?

Why wouldn't they approve it with a 14 day booking? My apologies, I don't quite understand the question ????

 

They did approve the COE. I booked for 14 days, doesn't mean I have to stay that long( I assume). I'm just out about 21 bucks a day that I don't stay and I just wanted to get this thing wrapped up ASAP so I could move on with my life. Chances are, I'm flying out the day of the second PCR clearance, which is first thing in the morning of the 7th day. 

 

There's no clear step by step documentation for the full process, just a simple basic summary. Not too bad though.   

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Does everyone need the COE and all this other jazz? I am hoping to travel to the US sometime this month with a re-entry in Nov. I am double Pfizer vaxxed at this point, on a Non-O, married to a Thai citizen, and 53 years old. I suppose all this info is on a Thai gov. site somewhere?

 

Thanks (And good luck OP!)

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"They did approve the COE."

 

"Royal Thai Consulate-General, Los Angeles has rejected your registration/application.

 

In2021  I have had 2 COE's approved by the Los Angeles Thai Consulate.  Both applications were not smooth.  The first application was rejected 4 times and the second application was rejected once.  In the COE application process there appears to be no "grey" area and the standards are in black in white.  The current standards are:

 

1. Fully Vaccinated 7 days

2. Not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated 10 days.

 

Therefore, the Quarantine Hotel Booking must match your quarantine periods.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, bamboozled said:

Does everyone need the COE and all this other jazz? I am hoping to travel to the US sometime this month with a re-entry in Nov. I am double Pfizer vaxxed at this point, on a Non-O, married to a Thai citizen, and 53 years old. I suppose all this info is on a Thai gov. site somewhere?

 

Thanks (And good luck OP!)

Yes, for now. Start the COE process, 3 or 4 week before you plan your return. Do the first phase, getting approved. You'll get an email stating whether you have been approved or not. If you have not been approved then go into the site and do the edits (the yellow button) where you load all the required documents. Then after you get approved, no earlier than 15 days before you arrive in TH, go back into the coethailand.mfa.go.th site and start the second phase of the COE, because once you begin the second phase you only have 15 days to complete it and you'll have a lot of time to book the flight and such. Unlike me, I booked my flight first because I thought it would be a breeze, though the last couple of days I was beginning to sweat some bullets, a week out is too close for me. Thankfully for those who fallow, there's a lot of discussion in this forum with different experiences. 

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14 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

??

 

"They did approve the COE."

 

"Royal Thai Consulate-General, Los Angeles has rejected your registration/application.

 

In2021  I have had 2 COE's approved by the Los Angeles Thai Consulate.  Both applications were not smooth.  The first application was rejected 4 times and the second application was rejected once.  In the COE application process there appears to be no "grey" area and the standards are in black in white.  The current standards are:

 

1. Fully Vaccinated 7 days

2. Not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated 10 days.

 

Therefore, the Quarantine Hotel Booking must match your quarantine periods.

 

 

Well, I'm fully vaccinated, have a SHABA for 14 days and a COE certificate, my 2nd PCR for clearance is on the 7th day, the day I plan on splitting off to CM. 

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I am in exactly the same situation , I have a coe application in progress with a 14 night sha booking , I hope I don’t get an answer like yours , it makes me anxious. If you hit the confirm/ edit button it takes you into your original application  , you can then change things if you wish , it will not automatically change anything , all the uploaded documents stay the same  , you have to re enter flight details and the shaba code again. I have done this several times. Maybe the hotel will give you a new shaba code for 7 days , that might be do it , you could ask them for that. Maybe it is possible to re enter the same information and get it accepted this time. I might do that just re enter everything the same and hope it’s okay. Let me know how you get on , because I might have the same problem in a few days. Good luck with that.

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2 hours ago, Zyte said:

I am in exactly the same situation , I have a coe application in progress with a 14 night sha booking , I hope I don’t get an answer like yours , it makes me anxious. If you hit the confirm/ edit button it takes you into your original application  , you can then change things if you wish , it will not automatically change anything , all the uploaded documents stay the same  , you have to re enter flight details and the shaba code again. I have done this several times. Maybe the hotel will give you a new shaba code for 7 days , that might be do it , you could ask them for that. Maybe it is possible to re enter the same information and get it accepted this time. I might do that just re enter everything the same and hope it’s okay. Let me know how you get on , because I might have the same problem in a few days. Good luck with that.

I'm just going to leave everything as is since I already hove the COE certificate. I don't want to risk mucking things up since I only have a few days left before I cut on out of here. My only loss will possibly be about $150USD, considering that most places I've stayed at in TH have refunded for nights not stayed if I didn't stay the entire duration of the booking, though Phuket might be different.   

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I'm also waiting for final coe approval for phuket with my flight booked for 16th Oct.

 

I started the process on 3 Oct and received pre approval on the 4th.

I had initially assume that pre approval meant the documents I had submitted in stage 1 had been accepted.  It appears now from reading other accounts that may not be the case. 

 

I submitted travel info on 6th Oct and received an immediate email acknowledging receipt. Although I'm now beginning to think I should have started this process much earlier.

 

How long does it normally take to receive approval after you have submitted travel details? 

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22 minutes ago, britishjohn said:

How long does it normally take to receive approval after you have submitted travel details? 

They normally do not send out the approved COE until a few days before your flight. I think they do that allow for last minute changes to your flight date to avoid having to issue another one.

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3 hours ago, britishjohn said:

I'm also waiting for final coe approval for phuket with my flight booked for 16th Oct.

 

I started the process on 3 Oct and received pre approval on the 4th.

I had initially assume that pre approval meant the documents I had submitted in stage 1 had been accepted.  It appears now from reading other accounts that may not be the case. 

 

I submitted travel info on 6th Oct and received an immediate email acknowledging receipt. Although I'm now beginning to think I should have started this process much earlier.

 

How long does it normally take to receive approval after you have submitted travel details? 

My COE was approved 26 hours after I started the 2nd phase/approval process. 

 

The process time on their end will most likely depend on how busy and how well staffed the consulat is.  

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3 hours ago, britishjohn said:

I submitted travel info on 6th Oct and received an immediate email acknowledging receipt. Although I'm now beginning to think I should have started this process much earlier.

I'm assuming from your user name that you're applying in the UK.  I too am in the process there and submitted travel info on the 6th as well.  My approval was given within 2 hours.  I did not receive an email (for that or the pre-approval) so relied on checking the system myself.

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It's possible a rejection is on its way. I had one vaccine in bkk and one in the UK. So this might cause a problem. But if that's the case I can't understand why they would pre approve it.

 

I did speak to someone who got rejected for similar reasons so he just changed to unvaccinated and will now do the full quarantine. But he was flying to bkk. 

 

If that did happen, am I even able to go unvaccinated into phuket?

If not I may have to start over and write off all the travel costs I've spent so far!

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We just received two ceo's, mine was rejected at first because I added the "flight share" flight number of our arrival flight and the flight number from the airline we bought the tickets from. (the itinerary says that flight is Delta Air #xxxx, and then in small print that it is the same as Korean Air #xxxx). They made me change that and use only the Delta Airlines number. 

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Royal Thai Embassy, London has rejected your registration/application.

Due to Please submit first dose cert or local card/yellow book/letter with evidence of first dose vaccination.

 

I sent in a EU Digital Covid Certificate which states that I have had 2/2 . 

It also states " Date of vaccination, indicating date of the latest dose received. 2021-05-26"

 

Do these people not realise that it is not possible to get Covid Vaccination Certificate without two vaccines? Why do they want first dose informatio9n?

 

It seems like they want to make it as difficult as possible for people to get COE

 

I think it will be a long process but I'm not too worried about it. If it works it works. If not, go someplace else that maked life a bit easier

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I am getting my 2nd dose both done in the USA and the 2nd dose will be on OCT 26th then I have to wait 14 days to file my COE according to the rules of having to wait 14 days after your 2nd dose, Which will be NOV 9th. My flight is booked and shaba hotel booked (Phuket) paid for. Hoping since my flight is booked for NOV 30th that I can get my COE all approved between Nov 9th when I submit and my fly date of NOV 30th. Does this seem to close to get an approval?  Thank you 

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40 minutes ago, raptorea said:

I am getting my 2nd dose both done in the USA and the 2nd dose will be on OCT 26th then I have to wait 14 days to file my COE according to the rules of having to wait 14 days after your 2nd dose, Which will be NOV 9th. My flight is booked and shaba hotel booked (Phuket) paid for. Hoping since my flight is booked for NOV 30th that I can get my COE all approved between Nov 9th when I submit and my fly date of NOV 30th. Does this seem to close to get an approval?  Thank you 

No, as long as you have everything in order and depending on the consulate it will take about 3 days if you don't get any rejection notices. About a week if you get one or two rejects, assuming that you can fix the errors. Some here are reporting speedy turnaround time with their consulates. At the time I did mine, I got a responses from the LA consulate within a day with each submission. I'm sure if things start to pick up, then it may take longer. 

 

May I mine you, there are two phases. Do not start the second phase until 15 days before you arrive in TH. When you complete the pre approval process you will get a notice/email or check it online stating that you have it "pre-approved your registration/application for COE" After you receive this notice DO NOT start the COE application process, DO NOT login out of curiosity before the 15 day mark, 15 days to the second. There is a 15 day/0 hours/0 minutes/0 seconds countdown timer when you login there. This is why it's suggested to wait to complete the pre approval process first, then make you booking after the approval notice. 

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28 minutes ago, 0james0 said:

No, as long as you have everything in order and depending on the consulate it will take about 3 days if you don't get any rejection notices. About a week if you get one or two rejects, assuming that you can fix the errors. Some here are reporting speedy turnaround time with their consulates. At the time I did mine, I got a responses from the LA consulate within a day with each submission. I'm sure if things start to pick up, then it may take longer. 

 

May I mine you, there are two phases. Do not start the second phase until 15 days before you arrive in TH. When you complete the pre approval process you will get a notice/email or check it online stating that you have it "pre-approved your registration/application for COE" After you receive this notice DO NOT start the COE application process, DO NOT login out of curiosity before the 15 day mark, 15 days to the second. There is a 15 day/0 hours/0 minutes/0 seconds countdown timer when you login there. This is why it's suggested to wait to complete the pre approval process first, then make you booking after the approval notice. 

Thank you. ? Are you saying 15 business days or 15 calendar days? from the 1st pre approval to compete the 2nd step I guess I rolled the dice and bought my air already and booked paid my hotel and got my shaba ID but I still need to buy the covid 100,000 policy and book the rt-pcr tests that are required.

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15 minutes ago, raptorea said:

Thank you. ? Are you saying 15 business days or 15 calendar days? from the 1st pre approval to compete the 2nd step I guess I rolled the dice and bought my air already and booked paid my hotel and got my shaba ID but I still need to buy the covid 100,000 policy and book the rt-pcr tests that are required.

15 calendar days to complete the second step. After you get your vax card after the 9th, start the first phase, then the second phase after the the 15th. You'll have plenty of time, don't sweat it. 

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