11 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Medical researchers have indicated that while the Omicron coronavirus variant is unlikely to replace the Delta variant due to genetic differences, it is also expected to be less severe.

Duh....this was well known worldwide before Anutins knee jerked

Edited January 3, 20224 yr by meechai

Very much more aggressive than Delta. In America a very higher case rate. My bud's family was boosted and got it. Was knocked down but not hospitalized. Very be careful.

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Dr Anan Jongkaewwattana, director of the Veterinary Health Innovation

So now public health policy is being dictated by vets! Couldn't make it up ????

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Meanwhile, Dr Kiattiphum Wongrajit, Permanent Secretary to the Ministry of Public Health, said Omicron infections should be brought under control within two months depending on public cooperation.

Um, cooperation, I believe he means that will be after everyone gets infected with it, which is going to happen, in other words, there is no control, apart from what governments around the world have been dishing out trying to control these viruses, now failing to let go, why, because the hospital systems will be overwhelmed, they say.

 

 

Edited January 3, 20224 yr by 4MyEgo

12 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Age profile.

Or climate profile. It's summer now in South Africa. 

13 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Watching the UK news today someone was claiming the omicron variant is no less severe than delta it is just that some many people are now vaccinated and boosted and/or have had covid19 that it appears to be less aggressive?????

Yes , a lot of talking heads with differing opinions...... some not really qualified to have them. Dr John Campbell has just posted a new video entitled Science indicates less severe omicron disease, which I will watch shortly.

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Dr Anan Jongkaewwattana, director of the Veterinary Health Innovation and Management Research Group unit of the National Center for Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology (BIOTEC), said Delta is like a sibling to the Alpha and Beta strains. However, this is not the case with the Omicron strain and so someone infected with the Delta variant can still contract the Omicron variant and carry both simultaneously.

Should Soi dogs be concerned?

13 hours ago, James105 said:

South Africa was 25% vaccinated and didn’t have a problem with this variant

Lots of natural immunity maybe through previous infection?

Edited January 4, 20224 yr by rtco
Wording change

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Medical researchers have indicated that while the Omicron coronavirus variant is unlikely to replace the Delta variant due to genetic differences, it is also expected to be less severe.

This seems contrary to the facts. 96.4% in London are Omicron. Definitely pushing Delta out.

9 hours ago, Blumpie said:

 The only people who get in trouble are unvaccinated. 

Not necessarily true. I know many people who have had it, and are unvaccinated. Some were symptom free, others said it was like a bad cold. I think it probably depends on each person and their immune systems.

14 hours ago, Petey11 said:

70% vaccinated with one jab? You need 2 or 3 by reports to provide good protection from Omicron....  One jab Sinovac and one jab AZ about 2 months ago. 

I had the same. A few days ago the village loudspeaker system told us to come and register for the booster (3rd) jab, which will be Pfizer. Now it's wait and see. Last time, those tasked with visiting each house to inform of where and when walked right past my place. I'd like to think it wasn't because I'm a farang and they'd decided the vaccine was for Thais only, rather than they couldn't do a simple task properly. Who knows.

Edited January 4, 20224 yr by Bangkok Barry

2 hours ago, elgenon said:

Very much more aggressive than Delta. In America a very higher case rate. My bud's family was boosted and got it. Was knocked down but not hospitalized. Very be careful.

Depends how you define aggressive. Yes, it is reported to be 70% more transmissible (easier to catch), so aggressive. But it is far milder than previous strains, so not nearly as aggressive. Easier to catch, easier to overcome.

13 hours ago, koratkarlos said:

Time will tell.

No doubt time will tell. Until then though, the hysteria has done its job. 

45 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Should Soi dogs be concerned?

I suspect the dogs and cats are super spreaders; that's why the word of the veternarian is so valued.

15 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

with only 47 million people fully vaxed, the mass gatherings at New Year celebrations, the hospitals will burst, because everyone has to go to the hospital if positive...Less severe doesn't mean you will not get sick, maybe you will not die so quickly, and with a lot of people sick the whole country will be derailed..

If some of the things I hear about the situation in Pattaya are true, the Hospitals are already bursting.

A Family Friend contracted the Covid on 31st Dec , and was admitted to Hospital. This was on a Day wen 441 people were reported to have caught covid in Banglamung.

He was later transferred, along with many others to a Hotel for Quarantine, as the Hospital could not cope due to being already full in their designated Covid Wards.

 

Of course the Omicron Variant will not be as severe as Delta according to the Thai medical specialists.

After all, the Country needs to remain open for whatever Tourists they can get.

32 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

If some of the things I hear about the situation in Pattaya are true, the Hospitals are already bursting.

A Family Friend contracted the Covid on 31st Dec , and was admitted to Hospital. This was on a Day wen 441 people were reported to have caught covid in Banglamung.

He was later transferred, along with many others to a Hotel for Quarantine, as the Hospital could not cope due to being already full in their designated Covid Wards.

 

Yesterday, the wife and young son gave positive ATK tests, followed by positive PCR tests at a local hospital and are now incarcerated in the quarantine Hotel "Krung Thep Palais" for the next, as yet to be confirmed, number of days. I have been told to isolate until they are released from the Palais. According to the wife, there were 98 new admissions to the Hotel yesterday as the hospital was already full.

Dare I suggest they need to wait a few weeks before putting out such a statement I personally expect to read a huge increase by the end of this week / beginning of next week I hope I am wrong .

31 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

Of course the Omicron Variant will not be as severe as Delta according to the Thai medical specialists.

You made me take a look back to when I first heard that this would likely be the case......27th November 2021. Great to see Bangkok Medical Experts playing catch-up!

Jeez, these Thai experts really are on the cutting edge, aren’t they. No joke, my 80-yr old mum in the UK is more up to date on omicron than these people. 

2 hours ago, phukettrader said:

So now public health policy is being dictated by vets! Couldn't make it up ????

The president of the German RKI, the most influential institute and main advisor to the government related to covid is a veterinary too ????

Germany more and more turns out to be Europe's Thailand.

Edited January 4, 20224 yr by JustAnotherHun

In South Africa, the UK and the States it/ has replaced almost totally the Delta strain. We need a booster shot as this strain is much more transmittable but less dangerous and causes less hospitalization and death per infection. IF numbers of infection are kept low it should not be a problem but allowing people to travel all over the county for parties was hardly a smart move. I hope they do some real testing over the next week to get some idea of infection rates and then we will know if there is any hope of controlling infections. 

I thought Huan-kin was a town in China till I discovered Smirnoff.

 

My ex wife thought Koo King and Fuh King were towns in China too 

33 minutes ago, Clarkey611 said:

Yesterday, the wife and young son gave positive ATK tests, followed by positive PCR tests at a local hospital and are now incarcerated in the quarantine Hotel "Krung Thep Palais" for the next, as yet to be confirmed, number of days. I have been told to isolate until they are released from the Palais. According to the wife, there were 98 new admissions to the Hotel yesterday as the hospital was already full.

Why would you get tested if you know the result is being  incarcerated?

Why don't you just get a rapid test and isolate at your own place?

Google Will omicron displace delta to see how expert this is: "Medical researchers have indicated that while the Omicron coronavirus variant is unlikely to replace the Delta variant due to genetic differences..."

It's like these so-called Thai experts do not know of the existence of any data outside of Thailand.

 

“Meanwhile, Dr Kiattiphum Wongrajit, Permanent Secretary to the Ministry of Public Health, said Omicron infections should be brought under control within two months depending on public cooperation”

 

the normal trajectory for omicron seems to be a month of rapidly rising cases, followed by ( hopefully) a month of rapidly falling cases. At least, the South African experience points to that.

 

so the “control” this guy thinks Thailand has is actually just the virus doing its thing.

Obviously the 'big pharma' companies (US) are getting really concerned with the worlds health as they are now getting involved in a legal war over who invented what  vaccine type.

It's comforting to know they have everyones health as their second consideration.

15 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Yeah, right! LOL.

S.A. and England might think otherwise and now the USA and the rest of the world. 2 months what are they smoking?

can you tell us something new, this information is old stale regurgitated and has been on news globally for 2 weeks!! why does it makes news here now??

Edited January 4, 20224 yr by shaff