Mask chat

[misterworldwide]

So, I don't wear a mask anymore as a general rule, and unless I'm in a position where I'll imminently be told to wear a mask, I simply don't wear one. Yes, I realize that this is against the rules. No, I don't care, nor I will not be convinced to wear one. The government, for reasons unknown to me, seems to insist on keeping the mask mandate in place for the foreseeable future, which in my opinion, is ridiculous.

 

Are you doing the same, or do you continue to wear a mask? Let's discuss.

[pgrahmm]

No - I mask up anytime I/we are out in close proximity to others.....

Better to err on the side of safety over "it's my right not to" since I don't know who could be hazardous & who isn't.....Anyone without a mask I give a wide berth...

All the Thais around me mask up....

The 3 anti maskers I know in the US ended up hospitalized for 5-7 days & on oxygen for a month afterwards ....

I'll trust masking up.....We use the J-K 94-95's.....

[internationalism]

yesterday there was notice from the ministry of health, that from mid June thailand might go maskless (subject of approval from prayuth).

it would still be adviced for those infected, with underlying, crowded spaces.

I think many thai will wear it out of habit, for many months

[bert bloggs]

Misterworldwide

So you dont obay the rules of the country you abide in,so i take it that any immigrants to your home country who do not abide by the rules have your full support?

[ThailandRyan]

Gotta love these anti masker types. It just chafes there <deleted> to wear one, even when it's a direct request.

[transam]

A question for Mr.Worldwide. If the Thai Gov. said any farang not wearing a mask when near others will be deported, would you still go down your route..?

Now be honest....????

 

Just to make you feel better, a know a farang married couple, one is a teacher, the other is a hanger-on.

Neither ever wear a mask nor have had any vax-jabs, they would rather risk the wrath of "whatever".....????

This means, whether a hospital, the school, Tesco's, never wear a mask..

Now I find this incredibly stupid as they have made LOS their home and workplace....???? 

[KannikaP]

Once again I say, masks were introduced to stop YOU giving the virus to others. The vaccine is to minimise the effects of the virus which YOU caught from a non-masker.

[Stocky]

On 5/24/2022 at 4:31 PM, misterworldwide said:

Let's discuss.

What's the point of any discussion, you've already stated "I will not be convinced to wear one".
 

[RedBackman]

(Sighs) I've only seen a handful of people not wearing masks here and they're all westerners...making us look bad. It doesn't really matter if you agree with the mandate it's simple to put a mask on, everybody else is dealing with the same thing. It's not like the Thai government is really getting its rocks off making you wear a mask just for fun...it's for public health and they already announced that they'll loosen the mandate soon. Just wait another month and you probably won't even have to fight about it and go against the flow to go maskless in open air areas.

[bbko]

If wearing a mask means it will lessen the chance of me getting fever/chills for 3 days, why not use it?  Is wearing a mask going to hurt you?

[KhunLA]

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Are you doing the same, or do you continue to wear a mask? Let's discuss.

I haven't wore a mask since day 1, unless entering a vendor (7-11, Makro, etc) that requires one.

 

On my morning scooter cruise today, surfside, saw a non-Thai couple masked up, proper & tight.  Actually looked a bit uncomfy.  Approx. 2.5 kms walkway along the surf, and they were the only ones out for a late morning stroll.

 

Good for a chuckle to myself, as I really can't wrap my head around it.  Oh well ....

[FolkGuitar]

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

Once again I say, masks were introduced to stop YOU giving the virus to others. The vaccine is to minimise the effects of the virus which YOU caught from a non-masker.

Two years on and yet so many farang just don't seem to understand this. Masks protect OTHER PEOPLE, and it's socially responsible to wear one. That's what being part of a community means.

Vaccines do not stop you from getting sick, but they do minimize the effects of the virus if you contract the disease. They are not a conspiracy to steal your money or your freedom, although many farang do believe that anything having to do with government, regardless of which country, is part of a conspiracy to enslave them.

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, bbko said:

If wearing a mask means it will lessen the chance of me getting fever/chills for 3 days, why not use it?  Is wearing a mask going to hurt you?

A couple days of a sniffle, a bit of discomfort vs 2 yrs till whenever (maybe forever ?) of discomfort wearing a mask ...

 

hmm .... let me think about that

[scubascuba3]

23 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

Two years on and yet so many farang just don't seem to understand this. Masks protect OTHER PEOPLE, and it's socially responsible to wear one. That's what being part of a community means.

Vaccines do not stop you from getting sick, but they do minimize the effects of the virus if you contract the disease. They are not a conspiracy to steal your money or your freedom, although many farang do believe that anything having to do with government, regardless of which country, is part of a conspiracy to enslave them.

The thing is we are back to the beginning again where the vulnerable should wear a mask not everyone else 

[KannikaP]

1 hour ago, FolkGuitar said:

Two years on and yet so many farang just don't seem to understand this. Masks protect OTHER PEOPLE, and it's socially responsible to wear one. That's what being part of a community means.

Vaccines do not stop you from getting sick, but they do minimize the effects of the virus if you contract the disease. They are not a conspiracy to steal your money or your freedom, although many farang do believe that anything having to do with government, regardless of which country, is part of a conspiracy to enslave them.

Thank you for saying exactly what I just said.

[FolkGuitar]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

A couple days of a sniffle, a bit of discomfort vs 2 yrs till whenever (maybe forever ?) of discomfort wearing a mask ...

 

hmm .... let me think about that

Perhaps you might think about someone's grandmother that you might infect should you have the virus but be asymptomatic. Or someone's parent who is already in poor health. THAT is what wearing a mask is about. Not about your comfort.

[FolkGuitar]

25 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

Thank you for saying exactly what I just said.

Obviously, even with two people saying it, there are those who just don't get it. And probably never will.

[473geo]

I wear a mask, its a bit some do some don't these days 

I don't feel in any danger from the maskless, had 3 Pfizer vaccinations

Fully understand those tired of mask wearing and don't get annoyed or upset, life goes on, as I say more and more becoming relaxed concerning mask wearing it is what it is ????

 

 

[KannikaP]

2 hours ago, bbko said:

If wearing a mask means it will lessen the chance of me getting fever/chills for 3 days, why not use it?  Is wearing a mask going to hurt you?

How many times do you need telling that masks are to stop YOU from giving the virus to others, not to protect you.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Re various comments above.

 

1. A good quality, properly fit and worn mask, especially the N95 variety, WILL help prevent / lessen the chances of you contracting COVID. And it also will lessen the likelihood of you spreading the virus to others around you, should you become infected. Good masks serve both purposes.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm?s_cid=mm7106e1_w

 

and 2. Being fully vaccinated and boosted also DOES lessen the likelihood that you will have any symptomatic infection from the Omicron virus. It doesn't prevent it 100%, and I've seen varying estimates of extent of reducing the likelihood of infection. That protection against infection starts out pretty strong a couple weeks after vaccination, and then gradually declines over time out to the 4-5 month point past your most recent shot.

 

From the latest weekly report by the UK Health Security Agency on vaccine effectiveness:

 

Vaccine effectiveness
"Several studies of vaccine effectiveness (VE) have been conducted in the UK against different COVID-19 variants. Vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic disease with the Omicron variant is substantially lower than against the Delta variant, with rapid waning. However, protection against hospitalisation remains high, particularly after 3 doses."

...

"Two to 4 weeks after a booster dose of either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine following an AstraZeneca or Pfizer primary course, effectiveness [against symptomatic infection] ranges from around 60 to 75%, dropping to almost no effect from 20+ weeks after the booster."

 

 

The above numbers relate to protection against symptomatic infection. They also have a different chart that gives "consensus" estimates -- not just UK data as above but an amalgam of world data -- of protection against all infection in the 0 to 3 months post boosted vaccination period, with an average of 45% and a range of 35 to 55%.

 

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1075115/COVID-19_vaccine_surveillance_report_12_May_2022_week_19.pdf

 

[KhunLA]

12 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

Perhaps you might think about someone's grandmother that you might infect should you have the virus but be asymptomatic. Or someone's parent who is already in poor health. THAT is what wearing a mask is about. Not about your comfort.

IMHO ... Easier for me to stay away from granny, and for granny to take precautions.  When & if, I'm around the high risk, I'd wear one.  But do I really need to any other time.

 

Next they'll be asking people to wear condoms all the time, to avoid unwanted pregnancies, even when they are not having sex.  That's what I equate mask wearing to, when there is no need to.  

 

The vulnerable need to social distance & mask up, not everyone else.  IMHO

[473geo]

Well children are back at school now, they do not wear masks when returned home 

Interesting there have been a few outbreaks of covid in the village, unless someone gets really sick and is hospitalised the only indication people don't just have cold or flu is to test. This would suggest the symptoms for most are not too debilitating hence making covid endemic makes sense, throw away the masks unless you feel at risk, children are the biggest risk of bringing covid home anyway, or any other illness circulating for that matter 

I feel it is time to leave mask wearing and social distancing to the individuals who despite vaccination feel at risk and need to take precautions 

 

[mania]

On 5/23/2022 at 11:31 PM, misterworldwide said:

Are you doing the same, or do you continue to wear a mask? Let's discuss.

 

No we do not wear masks here but we are not in Thailand at the moment.

Thankfully our as well as most if not all of the western world has accepted Covid for what it now is here.

 

Look even in Italy one of the most hard hit by Covid has just completed the

Giro D' Italia 2022 with hundreds of thousands if not more spectators lining the streets all unmasked.

 

What is sad though is to see many Foreigners here on this forum have adopted Anutin's & Payuth's sky is falling mentality. At least Anutin & Prayuth had an ulterior motive in keeping streets empty till elections

 

These brainwashed foreigners though have no excuse for such simple mindedness

[vinci]

for all the problem going on in the world and you worry about wearing or not wearing mask

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, mania said:

No we do not wear masks here but we are not in Thailand at the moment.

Thankfully our as well as most if not all of the western world has accepted Covid for what it now is here.

 

Look even in Italy one of the most hard hit by Covid has just completed the

Giro D' Italia 2022 with hundreds of thousands if not more spectators lining the streets all unmasked.

 

What is sad though is to see many Foreigners here on this forum have adopted Anutin's & Payuth's sky is falling mentality. At least Anutin & Prayuth had an ulterior motive in keeping streets empty till elections

 

These brainwashed foreigners though have no excuse for such simple mindedness

Your hilarious with your view of it being simple mindedness.  It's about following the rules in place in the country in which you live.  Sorry I can not compare it to following traffic laws here, which the locals don't, but foreigners do.

[transam]

1 hour ago, mania said:

No we do not wear masks here but we are not in Thailand at the moment.

Thankfully our as well as most if not all of the western world has accepted Covid for what it now is here.

 

Look even in Italy one of the most hard hit by Covid has just completed the

Giro D' Italia 2022 with hundreds of thousands if not more spectators lining the streets all unmasked.

 

What is sad though is to see many Foreigners here on this forum have adopted Anutin's & Payuth's sky is falling mentality. At least Anutin & Prayuth had an ulterior motive in keeping streets empty till elections

 

These brainwashed foreigners though have no excuse for such simple mindedness

I'm not brainwashed, I just do what the country I am in says I must do, plus use my own judgement.

You Rambo types can do what you want, but please do not use your blanket "dig" on all of us that do have a brain to do what we want to do.....????

[KhunLA]

6 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Your hilarious with your view of it being simple mindedness.  It's about following the rules in place in the country in which you live.  Sorry I can not compare it to following traffic laws here, which the locals don't, but foreigners do.

If I'm not mistaken, there is no law stating mask are required.  

https://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news/detail/TCATG220203155951127 

[Ralf001]

If the shop or store iam entering requires one i happily put one on.

 

I now bulk shop for food/booze/ciggies so the need to enter a shop/store is minimal..... Had to go into a 7/11 a few weeks ago... think thas the last time I wore a mask.

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

If I'm not mistaken, there is no law stating mask are required.  

https://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news/detail/TCATG220203155951127 

Required or law, does it make a difference as it's a rule and punishable by a fine, at least it was.  Your choice to follow the requests as they have in place or not, yet you still wear one for stores etc...

[ThailandRyan]

And in another OP now running Thai people believe wearing a mask is the right thing to do, so why not foreigners.