‘America is killing itself’: world reacts with horror and incomprehension to Texas shooting

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Mass violence in the US is ‘a recurring drama, to which America’s lawmakers seem unwilling to put an end’, wrote Iker Seisdedos in El País. /File photo

 

The international press responds scathingly to the tolerance for gun violence in the US: ‘nothing fundamentally changes’

 

by Jon Henley

 

Politicians and media around the world have reacted with horror, incomprehension and weary resignation to news that an 18-year-old gunman had murdered 19 children and two teachers in America’s 27th school shooting so far this year.

 

The politicians mostly observed formalities; commentators, not so much.

 

In devastated Ukraine, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said he was “deeply saddened by the murder of innocent children”, adding that his people “share the pain of the relatives and friends of the victims, and of all Americans”.

 

Full story: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/25/international-reaction-texas-school-shooting

 

-- © Copyright The Guardian 2022-05-26

[RichardColeman]

If the killer had been a white guy, this would be 24/7 on every new station in the USA until the US mid-terms.

[wombat]

Tweak the social media algorithm to pick up on guns rifles & ammo.

Red flag them to local law for a chat and a confiscation.

With the countries south of the border those that want weapons will get them.

The protagonist in these shootings are all ratbags who advertise on social media.

Guns don't kill people...people kill people 

[pacovl46]

That's a new low, second and fourth graders!!! Just wow! I wish they wouldn't have shot him so he could rot in prison for the rest of his life!!! 

[DezLez]

26 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

If the killer had been a white guy

  I thought the killer was an Hispanic white guy, not that colour has anything to do with it!

[Excel]

1 minute ago, DezLez said:

  I thought the killer was an Hispanic white guy, not that colour has anything to do with it!

Just another day in the US . Nothing will change and Thailand with all their illegal guns should start worrying as the US is Thailand's role model in many instances.

[Iamfalang]

Burmese military not being nice to their own.  China, not nice.  Philippines , not nice.   Mexico, not nice.   Russia, not nice.

 

but American news controls the world.   A million people in Africa could be killed and any American dead would be the headline 

Edited May 25, 2022 by Iamfalang

[DezLez]

9 minutes ago, pacovl46 said:

I wish they wouldn't have shot him

The police did kill him!

[morrobay]

Armed police officers are required security for schools and other facilities. Ted Cruz, Sen-TX introduced bill for hardening schools but the democrats blocked it. Stop and search, and most other preventative measures are also blocked by these liberal saps who place someones "civil rights" above the safety of the general public.

[Jerno]

1 hour ago, morrobay said:

Armed police officers are required security for schools and other facilities. Ted Cruz, Sen-TX introduced bill for hardening schools but the democrats blocked it. Stop and search, and most other preventative measures are also blocked by these liberal saps who place someones "civil rights" above the safety of the general public.

How many other Western countries have armed Security at schools?  Try none.  USA's gun "freedom" is the problem, not how many guards or police or more guns on the street or needed at schools. To the rest of the World, the USA is seen as a retarded gun-crazy place and a stupid population in this regard.  Best country in the world according to most Americans.  Ya right.

[anyone]

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President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said...

How did the President of Zimbabwe react? This is also very interesting

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.

 

[PoodThaiMaiDai]

1 hour ago, DezLez said:

The police did kill him!

He knows, he said "wouldn't have"

[PoodThaiMaiDai]

1 hour ago, morrobay said:

Armed police officers are required security for schools and other facilities. Ted Cruz, Sen-TX introduced bill for hardening schools but the democrats blocked it. Stop and search, and most other preventative measures are also blocked by these liberal saps who place someones "civil rights" above the safety of the general public.

Sadly, a lot of schools got rid or police officers on campus as part of the "Defund the Police" movement.

 

 

[Sydebolle]

Tell those gun-loving pr1cks to carry on the good work. It was, is and remains irresponsible to allow private citizen the ownership of guns without proven training by professionals. 

The Swiss army, mandatory for all Swiss male once they hit 20 years of age, requires a basic training of 17 weeks. Among others, intensive training on how to use machine guns, grenades and other warfare equipment is provided until these fellows can handle the equipment in complete dark. Result is, that everybody is fully aware of the potential danger, if the equipment is "mishandled". 

Given the present state of Americans with all their minority carp and rights for all including the freedom of buying and selling literally almost anything - some legal, some not - and combine this with "disturbed" minds, of which there is no shortage in the US either - go figure. 

Only once a kid of a senator or the president is blessed with "American thoughts and prayers" - only then there is chance that someone is calling a spade a spade and puts an end to this absolute unnecessary madness. 

[morrobay]

26 minutes ago, Jerno said:

How many other Western countries have armed Security at schools?  Try none.  USA's gun "freedom" is the problem, not how many guards or police or more guns on the street or needed at schools. To the rest of the World, the USA is seen as a retarded gun-crazy place and a stupid population in this regard.  Best country in the world according to most Americans.  Ya right.

Ya all can talk about this until the cows come home with everything and a song- except solutions. Of course too many whackos and their access to guns. But that is not going to change anytime. So are your trying to say that armed security (with a rifle for accuracy) is not a solution. And regarding the whackos there are ways to deal with them in the realm of preventative law enforcement. Unfortunately those measures : stop and search are blocked by democrats who place some whackos civil rights above your safety.

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, PoodThaiMaiDai said:

Sadly, a lot of schools got rid or police officers on campus as part of the "Defund the Police" movement.

 

Garbage, where is your link?

[superal]

America , the land of the free .  To me and others it could be so much better if it sorted out its political systems . Gun lobbyists seem to dictate the firearms laws ." Having a gun is our constitutional right ", is widely backed . The Sky news just reported that on average 22 children a day are hit by gunshot . On average 5 children die every day  . Every year in excess of 117,000 people are shot with over 40,000 dying .  Theses are staggering stats and the USA government should be ashamed . Time for the American people to speak up and change this gun culture which will take a few years to do but gun sales need to be restricted to those who have been background checked and have a legitimate reason for gun ownership . 

[PoodThaiMaiDai]

10 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Garbage, where is your link?

It was a general statement about schools in the USA not in this school.

 

I was involved in law enforcement contracts in Los Angeles so i know first hand.

 

But here are some links for you:

 

LINK 1

 

LINK 2

 

LINK 3

 

LINK 4

 

LINK 5

 

I can go on and on it was a national movement.

 

Apology not accepted.

 

Edited May 26, 2022 by PoodThaiMaiDai

[Darksidedude]

2 hours ago, pacovl46 said:

That's a new low, second and fourth graders!!! Just wow! I wish they wouldn't have shot him so he could rot in prison for the rest of his life!!! 

No way, absolute waste of space and money to have him alive best thing is that he is gone for good

[SunnyinBangrak]

16 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Garbage, where is your link?

 

"The Milwaukee Public Schools canceled its contract with the city police department in June 2020, but the policy change has not stopped staff from summoning officers to schools.

In the first two months of the current school year, administrators at Milwaukee high schools called police more than 200 times, ABC affiliate station WISN reported. Some city leaders have suggested the district reconsider and bring officers back to patrol campuses."

https://publicintegrity.org/education/criminalizing-kids/milwaukee-school-district-defunded-police-but-it-keeps-calling-them-back-in/

 

I do not think anybody supporting the party that went all-in on defunding the police is in a position to lecture anybody on school shootings, or any other violent crime for that matter.

[bbko]

If my son's school had armed security patrolling the grounds, I'd probably change schools.  It's sickening.

[PoodThaiMaiDai]

4 minutes ago, bbko said:

If my son's school had armed security patrolling the grounds, I'd probably change schools.  It's sickening.

How is it sickening?

 

It is a community need at some schools in some cities.

 

So you prefer you child be at a school without added security measures?

 

What is the negative effect of having a friendly police officer on campus who is there for protection?  Not to dramatize the kids.

 

 

Edited May 26, 2022 by PoodThaiMaiDai

[PoodThaiMaiDai]

4 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I do not think anybody supporting the party that went all-in on defunding the police is in a position to lecture anybody on school shootings, or any other violent crime for that matter.

I totally agree.

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

 

"The Milwaukee Public Schools canceled its contract with the city police department in June 2020, but the policy change has not stopped staff from summoning officers to schools.

In the first two months of the current school year, administrators at Milwaukee high schools called police more than 200 times, ABC affiliate station WISN reported. Some city leaders have suggested the district reconsider and bring officers back to patrol campuses."

https://publicintegrity.org/education/criminalizing-kids/milwaukee-school-district-defunded-police-but-it-keeps-calling-them-back-in/

 

I do not think anybody supporting the party that went all-in on defunding the police is in a position to lecture anybody on school shootings, or any other violent crime for that matter.

Why is it not acceptable to spend the money on counselling and social workers while calling the police when needed? Police officers at school

 

School police officers are generally not the best trained in gun massacre situations and sometimes get shot themselves.

 

A campus police officer and a campus safety officer were killed during a shooting at a Virginia college Tuesday afternoon after responding to reports of a "suspicious" person on campus, officials said.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/active-shooter-bridgewater-college-campus-authorities-called-scene/story?id=82603576

[ozimoron]

9 minutes ago, PoodThaiMaiDai said:

How is it sickening?

 

It is a community need at some schools in some cities.

 

So you prefer you child be at a school without added security measures?

 

What is the negative effect of having a friendly police officer on campus who is there for protection?  Not to dramatize the kids.

 

 

Javier Cazares, whose fourth grade daughter, Jacklyn Cazares, was killed in the attack, said he raced to the school when he heard about the shooting, arriving while police were still massed outside the building.

Upset that police were not moving in, he raised the idea of charging into the school with several other bystanders.

“Let’s just rush in because the cops aren’t doing anything like they are supposed to,” he said.

 

https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-44a7cfb990feaa6ffe482483df6e4683

[PoodThaiMaiDai]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Why is it not acceptable to spend the money on counselling and social workers while calling the police when needed? Police officers at school

 

School police officers are generally not the best trained in gun massacre situations and sometimes get shot themselves.

 

A campus police officer and a campus safety officer were killed during a shooting at a Virginia college Tuesday afternoon after responding to reports of a "suspicious" person on campus, officials said.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/active-shooter-bridgewater-college-campus-authorities-called-scene/story?id=82603576

Of course not everyone has the best training but who do you suggest? Military?  LOL

 

It is not like cops are robots and are able to rid of all emotional attachment during a crisis. Some are better at situations like this than others.

 

Schools already have counselors and social workers.  What good does this do "during" an active shooter at a school.  This is a measure for before and after not during.

[PoodThaiMaiDai]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Javier Cazares, whose fourth grade daughter, Jacklyn Cazares, was killed in the attack, said he raced to the school when he heard about the shooting, arriving while police were still massed outside the building.

Upset that police were not moving in, he raised the idea of charging into the school with several other bystanders.

“Let’s just rush in because the cops aren’t doing anything like they are supposed to,” he said.

 

https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-44a7cfb990feaa6ffe482483df6e4683

Your response has nothing to do with my statement.

 

However, if that is true, the cops F'ed up as the first 1-2 who arrived should have gone in to find and stop the suspect.

 

 

[sammieuk1]

The incomprehension to most is why can anyone yet alone an 18 year old buy and own assault rifles ????Rip

[Lacessit]

5 minutes ago, PoodThaiMaiDai said:

How is it sickening?

 

It is a community need at some schools in some cities.

 

So you prefer you child be at a school without added security measures?

 

What is the negative effect of having a friendly police officer on campus who is there for protection?  Not to dramatize the kids.

 

 

If no-one had guns, police officers would be unnecessary.

 

After Port Arthur in 1996, Australians said enough. The last mass shooting at any educational institution was 20 years ago, at Monash University.

 

When these mass shootings occur in America, they have one thing in common. The shooters are equipped with weapons that are designed with only one purpose in mind, to kill and maim as many people as possible, as quickly as possible.

 

The NRA is a powerful lobby group. Until politicians start filing into jail for accepting bribes and support from an organization that aids and abets the slaughter of American children, it will be business as usual. Gun firms are delighted, sales go up every time there is a mass shooting. How sick is that? An 18 yo kid able to obtain not one, but two AR16's. How stupid is that?

 

It's complete nonsense for supporters of the Second Amendment to say one can't own guns in Australia. I was a gun owner, and still could be one if I was living in Australia, along with thousands of farmers and sporting shooters. I just can't own a weapon designed for rapid butchery.

 

26 years on from Port Arthur, and the US still has not comprehended the lesson Australia provided. Dumb or stubborn, take your pick.