Pedrogaz Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 To achieve this target, you need a workable plan. The implementation of the plan becomes the strategy. The Thai government doesn't do plans......it makes meaningless statements about hubs, crackdowns and targets (like this one). After the 50 prior statements about reducing road accidents, somehow I have little faith that it will be achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I cannot see any major problems - after all, they have a really cool buzzword - "Vision Zero"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalGuy Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) Good to adopt Swedish road safety practice. World leaders along with Netherlands & UK. However “ public transport / private cars” are clearly NOT the primary problems which are obviously unskilled youngsters on small motorbikes.???? BAN all motorbikes under 150cc and Riders under 18. Combine Bike Reg & Size/ Sidecar/ Rider Age / License/ Bike Tax / Insurance ; in Spot Checks and Confiscate / Auction Bike for any Violation/ Missing Docs. No stupid fines or discretion. ???? Drastic and Impractical I know but would statistically save 80% or 20,000 young lives yearly & could use as Extreme Concept for Practical Refinement. ???? Setting aside Culture, Conditions, Cynicism & History here which render impossible any such modern govt. “plan”. ???? Edited May 27, 2022 by TropicalGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigInBangkok Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Bobtheblob said: They could start with simple things, e.g Road markings that clearly show who has the right of way, simple effective and not expensive. we would also need big arrows in the middle of the lanes to show which direction we should travel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 While I am not clairvoyant, I think think I can nevertheless predict with reasonably accuracy that this is going to work out just as fabulous as the 5-year-plan to stamp out corruption. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 5555 Never gonna happen if they don't get their finger out/enforce All the Laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) Sure, all sorted then. What's next. household debt ? Edited May 28, 2022 by metisdead Trolling image removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huangnon Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Same old.. Govt aims to improve education, stamp out corruption, modernize the police force / armed forces, blah, blah. Hey! Look at that shiny thing over th.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Thai public don’t care about their appalling RTA deaths and the government doesn’t care that they don’t care either. Just make some throw away appeasing statements every so often and it’s job done. No intellectual capacity on either side to understand what the benefits would be. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonRob2 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I know exactly how to reduce traffic deaths by approximately two thirds. Traf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cncltd1973 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 hilarious! more clowning by politicians, at least they're good for a laugh. I'd wager all the living politicians will have died before they see 2/3 reduction in road deaths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Well there certainly is plenty room for improvement..... Only item mentioned was enforcing laws, which we all know is a big factor, policing is inept, corrupt, but it goes further. Driving standards are very poor, and the way roads are built and used creates danger.... U-Turns, a Hwy near me goes from 3 lanes to a near dead end junction without prior speed reducing measures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 What ever is this character on about? Stick to talking about your tanks and peashooters. Pratt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actonion Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Importance of enforcing the laws he says ... firstly, those law enforcers need to know the rules of what they are enforcing, the Police have'nt got a clue regarding health & safety, and Highway code rules, so how can they enforce something they know very little of?, the police drive /ride as stupid as the rest of them... As for road deaths being a priority, so much for thier priority we have had two Farang women mowed down and killed by idiots on motorbikes in the last few days and weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelagicpete Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Had a chat with a group of Governors playing golf a few years ago, and asked about this, the one who was interested told us that the Government is totally aware of the situation but is held up by a number of problems. One is Education, no driving test after lessons that are the same all over the country, this would be a Federal Inspection issue to pass individuals, the second is Enforcement, active on the road enforcement of the laws, another is Environment, ie the way the roads are designed and built to prevent accidents. There were two more that began with E, I cannot remember them. It seems they just lack the motivation to make it happen. I think the biggest problem is poverty. If you want to stop a family taking their children to school, five on a bike, how will they get there? they cannot all afford helmets or a car. And the self sustaining economy contains a significant proportion of bike and pickup businesses that evade the rules, cannot afford them anyway. More Government control would cost a lot of money, ie a lot more taxes all round. Look at the taxes in Europe and the West, to contain the problem the Government has to pay for an alternative. It is a big problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, pelagicpete said: Had a chat with a group of Governors playing golf a few years ago, and asked about this, the one who was interested told us that the Government is totally aware of the situation but is held up by a number of problems. One is Education, no driving test after lessons that are the same all over the country, this would be a Federal Inspection issue to pass individuals, the second is Enforcement, active on the road enforcement of the laws, another is Environment, ie the way the roads are designed and built to prevent accidents. There were two more that began with E, I cannot remember them. It seems they just lack the motivation to make it happen. I think the biggest problem is poverty. If you want to stop a family taking their children to school, five on a bike, how will they get there? they cannot all afford helmets or a car. And the self sustaining economy contains a significant proportion of bike and pickup businesses that evade the rules, cannot afford them anyway. More Government control would cost a lot of money, ie a lot more taxes all round. Look at the taxes in Europe and the West, to contain the problem the Government has to pay for an alternative. It is a big problem. I agree with all of the above,but, How are you going to solve another big problem? There have been loads of videos ,just a few last week. People,both young and old that can't be bothered to even look when they turn into traffic? If you have no self preservation instinct at all what chances have you got in traffic? I see a lot of people doing it and i wonder,how did they get this old? Lucky amulet must be the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 easy way to do it ..get rid of the current government ..problem solved 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion58 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/26/2022 at 6:01 PM, Bobtheblob said: They could start with simple things, e.g Road markings that clearly show who has the right of way, simple effective and not expensive. That would be the common sense wisdom, but, then again, Thai drivers would just ignore them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoodThaiMaiDai Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 They are going to have to cancel all the holidays longer than 1 day long to avoid a large percentage of deaths. But this will not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalawaan Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 What are they going to do? Pump all the decades of BS they've been spouting onto the roads so the traffic will have to slow down to avoid flooding the motor? ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adumbration Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 In five years time there will be no one driving because there will be no fuel. China will move on Taiwan shortly and WW3 will relegate all personal vehicles to the position they deserve. The scap heap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 I have a unique and novel solution. Get the lazy and under funded highway patrol to actually patrol the highways, and pull over reckless drivers, thereby introducing a deterrent and reason for idiots to stop being extremely reckless. Fine them massive amounts, that increase depending on the level of insanity committed. Not on the spot cash fines, that the cops keep. But, actual citations, that are counted against your ability to renew your registration, if left unpaid. In the US, 60 years ago, there was a major littering problem. They introduced $1,000 fines, and the highway patrol started handing out tickets to litter bugs. Guess what happened, nearly overnight? 90% of people stopped littering. Fairly basic stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 On 5/26/2022 at 5:44 PM, ThailandRyan said: Time to enforce the laws.... First they need to change Thai society to the point where they can enforce laws... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excel Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 minute ago, BangkokReady said: First they need to change Thai society to the point where they can enforce laws... Exactly, went the very top break laws it is hardly an example to the rest of the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 19 hours ago, Harveyboy said: get rid of the current government ..problem solved How would that solve anything? You think this has anything to do with the current government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 5/29/2022 at 8:33 AM, BangkokReady said: How would that solve anything? You think this has anything to do with the current government? so you are saying that minister's in this government have not caused these problems Oh my dear man are you unwell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, Harveyboy said: so you are saying that minister's in this government have not caused these problems Oh my dear man are you unwell You actually believe that it was not like this under previous government(s)?!! You are the one who sounds unwell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 On 6/4/2022 at 2:23 PM, BangkokReady said: You actually believe that it was not like this under previous government(s)?!! You are the one who sounds unwell! oh my my i feel so unwell i need to lie down...You are still talking Bullshoot!!!. did i say the previous government was any better NO i said the government is to blame for not controlling this ...would you find it easier to understand if i wrote it in Capital letters ..in Crayon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Harveyboy said: did i say the previous government was any better By saying that getting rid of the current government would fix it and then that the ministers in the current government have caused these problems? Yes. That is exactly what you have said. 4 hours ago, Harveyboy said: i said the government is to blame for not controlling this You said the current government is to blame. 4 hours ago, Harveyboy said: would you find it easier to understand if i wrote it in Capital letters ..in Crayon. I can understand perfectly what you have written. It seems it is you who cannot even grasp their own words. I recommend you do have that lie down, followed by a session of crayon drawing as you suggest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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