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11 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Homemade Larb Moo with cucumber slices, kiwis and blueberries, with a nice brewed pot of dark roast coffe bought from Makro....price 160 baht for each the GF and I. Now having a light snack of TGM thick sliced pepperoni and a Schweppes Minao Soda.....spend it if you have it no need to be frugal.

manao soda and sangsom! arroy dee!

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My wife and I own a small hotel. 14 rooms in Lat Ya, about 20 km north of downtown Kanchanaburi. 

 

We have a woman who comes in to clean the rooms, do laundry, and do assorted other chores.

 

Since we are not yet back to our pre-Covid volume, there frequently isn't a full day's work to do. But this is good! Because my wife has recently been saying "I'm boring food; I'm boring cooking!" So we've been letting Jaep do some of the cooking for us, to give my wife a break. She's a good cook; almost as good as my wife.

 

What I haven't had the heart to remind my money-cautious wife is............

 

We're paying this nice woman 150 to 200 baht a day (a portion of her daily wage as our "hotel housekeeper") to cook for us............ using our own groceries.......... to make food we could buy freshly made up the road, for 45 or 50  baht a plate!

 

Now, I don't mind, of course. My wife is getting the break she wants; I'm getting the food I want; Jaep enjoys the cooking a lot more than the cleaning, so it's a nice change-of-pace for her; and we'd be paying her those wages, regardless. So it's A-Okay..........as long as we have impressively clean rooms to rent, and clean towels and sheets to use when we need them!

 

Sure, sometimes prices are worth complaining about. But sometimes, it's just better to........ not!

 

Jaep deserves it............... whether we technically need that part of what she's does for us, or not. 

 

 

 

 

 

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59 minutes ago, KanchanaburiGuy said:

My wife and I own a small hotel. 14 rooms in Lat Ya, about 20 km north of downtown Kanchanaburi. 

 

We have a woman who comes in to clean the rooms, do laundry, and do assorted other chores.

 

Since we are not yet back to our pre-Covid volume, there frequently isn't a full day's work to do. But this is good! Because my wife has recently been saying "I'm boring food; I'm boring cooking!" So we've been letting Jaep do some of the cooking for us, to give my wife a break. She's a good cook; almost as good as my wife.

 

What I haven't had the heart to remind my money-cautious wife is............

 

We're paying this nice woman 150 to 200 baht a day (a portion of her daily wage as our "hotel housekeeper") to cook for us............ using our own groceries.......... to make food we could buy freshly made up the road, for 45 or 50  baht a plate!

 

Now, I don't mind, of course. My wife is getting the break she wants; I'm getting the food I want; Jaep enjoys the cooking a lot more than the cleaning, so it's a nice change-of-pace for her; and we'd be paying her those wages, regardless. So it's A-Okay..........as long as we have impressively clean rooms to rent, and clean towels and sheets to use when we need them!

 

Sure, sometimes prices are worth complaining about. But sometimes, it's just better to........ not!

 

Jaep deserves it............... whether we technically need that part of what she's does for us, or not. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sounds like a good idea to relieve your wife of cooking duties and put her on studying english duties ????

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7 hours ago, it is what it is said:

 

sounds like a good idea to relieve your wife of cooking duties and put her on studying english duties ????

Lol

 

She was an English teacher in Thai Government Schools, for over 30 years. 

 

Nonetheless, she has some quirky ways of saying things that I've chosen to find comical, rather than objectionable.

 

Take the "boring" thing. Sure, it should be "bored with." Gottit. BUT! When I'm the target of her "bored with" declarations, she says "I'm boring you!" And how can I NOT gleefully think in reply, "Yep, yep you are!"

 

And.........

 

When describing a person she thinks is being selfish and miserly, she will call them (me?) "sticky."

 

Now, I think she's going for the word "stingy".......... which does mean selfish and miserly. But it comes out "sticky."

 

But think about that! "Sticky" is a GREAT word for someone who is selfish and miserly! Lol And it's much more fun and colorful than boring old "stingy" would be!

 

So yeah, even after teaching "English" for 30 years, she could stand some serious improvement. But how much LESS FUN would that be for me, then? Lol

 

(Besides, considering how magnificently I have failed at both speaking and hearing Thai........... I'm hardly one to complain about her English! Lol)

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15 minutes ago, KanchanaburiGuy said:

(Besides, considering how magnificently I have failed at both speaking and hearing Thai........... I'm hardly one to complain about her English! Lol)

Would point out nobody paid you to teach Thai for 30 years.

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1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Would point out nobody paid you to teach Thai for 30 years.

Not sure how wide-spread the problem is, but........

 

Had a friend who had two thai kids going to school. Both kids were taking "English." There arose an occasion where the kids were taught something that was completely wrong. So my native-English-speaking friend (Canadian) decided to go in to talk to the teacher about it. What he found was..........

 

While the teacher could teach English lessons and mimic English sounds............... she was absolutely incapable of having a conversation in English! 

 

She could MIMIC English........... but she couldn't SPEAK it!

 

So while what she taught the kids was wrong, it was only because the lesson itself was wrong. But she was totally incapable of discovering that on her own!

 

She had been teaching "English" for more than 20 years.

 

Sadly, sometimes schools are not able to staff their institutions with the most qualified people. There simply aren't enough of them. Sometimes.......... the best they can hope for........... is to find a sufficient quantity of the less-UNqualified!

 

Having seen some of my wife's lesson plans and educational resource materials........... knowing some of the seminars she attended and travel she took to try to improve both her English and her teaching skills......... i cannot say how successful she was as an English Teacher............ but I CAN say that whatever deficiencies she may have had as a teacher ............. it wasn't for lack of effort!

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11 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

That must be why the School director where I was to teach English 6 years ago in Udon Thani decided the 45k salary was his to keep......yep a Pretty was hired, just out of school and unlicensed and could barely put a sentence together.

Seems to me, about that time, there was a BIG push to eliminate all foreign English teachers.......... and hire ONLY Thai teachers. 

 

I recall seeing it suggested that Thais would be sent to places like England or Australia for a 4 to 6-week course......... and that was supposedly going to qualify them to replace all the native-English-speakers. Thailand for Thais!

 

So, was it a lecherous Director that lead to that outcome.......... or the government directive?

 

(By the way, when you say the Director decided to keep the 45k "for himself"............ why do you believe the "pretty" he supposedly hired instead.......... didn't get paid?)

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2 minutes ago, KanchanaburiGuy said:

Seems to me, about that time, there was a BIG push to eliminate all foreign English teachers.......... and hire ONLY Thai teachers. 

 

I recall seeing it suggested that Thais would be sent to places like England or Australia for a 4 to 6-week course......... and that was supposedly going to qualify them to replace all the native-English-speakers. Thailand for Thais!

 

So, was it a lecherous Director that lead to that outcome.......... or the government directive?

 

(By the way, when you say the Director decided to keep the 45k "for himself"............ why do you believe the "pretty" he supposedly hired instead.......... didn't get paid?)

It was his daughter

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36 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

It was his daughter

So, this..........

 

"yep a Pretty was hired, just out of school and unlicensed and could barely put a sentence together."

 

...........really had nothing to do with her being "a pretty," did it? He would have likely chosen her, regardless of her physical attributes.

 

What's more baffling, then, is why he bothered talking to you, at all? Appearances, maybe? (How IT looked, not how YOU looked!)

 

Of course, if it was his daughter, you didn't really "lose" the job to her (or "the pretty"). You were probably never even in the running, anyway! Lol

 

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On 6/28/2022 at 1:24 PM, KhunLA said:

You're paying way too much.  Most expensive chicken I notice at Makro the other day was 84 baht (60-84)

Did I say I actually bought it?

Makro price for chicken legs today was B84 kg ... Chicken breast was B96 kg.  Just for info.

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On 6/27/2022 at 1:14 PM, SAFETY FIRST said:

Why do people come to Thailand and complain about everything, that's what so many do. 

 

I see you're a relative newbie here, you'll find lots of whinging and whining about many different things by members on AN forums. 

 

I've complained over the years about the moaners but I'm out numbered, too many of them. 

 

You question the moaners and they start an argument, they play mind games, then some get frustrated and start calling you names, then they justify their rude comments and report you, saying that you're a Troll. 

 

They're just miserable, awful people. Glass half empty, negative types, you'll never please these people. 

 

 

 

 

Here's another complainer post 

 

You'll find the majority of AN posted articles are about a person complaining about one thing or another. 

 

Like I said, I reckon some people are just born glass half empty, no pleasing these types. 

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1 hour ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Are members aware Asean Now is posting our posts on their Facebook Page?

Twitter also, postings linked to AN here ... OMG

 

I didn't read the 'fine print'

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It seems to me, that most posts here come from Expats. Of course, they mostly quote "daily life" prices.


How about tourist? A good number comes to Thailand for the ladies. I don't know of a segment of the Thai economy where inflation has been as rampant as in the "female companionship" sector.


After consulting his pocket calculator, many a Farang may find, that it does not make sense anymore to sit in an airplane for 12 hours, only to realise, that the "price structure" is not that far away than in his home country.

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16 minutes ago, swissie said:

It seems to me, that most posts here come from Expats. Of course, they mostly quote "daily life" prices.


How about tourist? A good number comes to Thailand for the ladies. I don't know of a segment of the Thai economy where inflation has been as rampant as in the "female companionship" sector.


After consulting his pocket calculator, many a Farang may find, that it does not make sense anymore to sit in an airplane for 12 hours, only to realise, that the "price structure" is not that far away than in his home country.

It's as cheap as it ever was, just need to understand the location and how to play the game.....

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21 minutes ago, swissie said:

It seems to me, that most posts here come from Expats. Of course, they mostly quote "daily life" prices.


How about tourist? A good number comes to Thailand for the ladies. I don't know of a segment of the Thai economy where inflation has been as rampant as in the "female companionship" sector.


After consulting his pocket calculator, many a Farang may find, that it does not make sense anymore to sit in an airplane for 12 hours, only to realise, that the "price structure" is not that far away than in his home country.

You can buy sex just as cheap in your home Country .

With porn being instantly freely available and it being very easy to find someone to have sex with , theres little point in going to Thailand these days . Although if you want to go to a bar and role play you going into a bar and "pulling " a young woman , Thailand is the place to do that

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23 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

It's as cheap as it ever was, just need to understand the location and how to play the game.....

I suppose the "coconut bar" in Pattaya hasn't changed much. But will I have to compete with sophisticated Indian heartbrakers?

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20 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

You can buy sex just as cheap in your home Country .

With porn being instantly freely available and it being very easy to find someone to have sex with , theres little point in going to Thailand these days . Although if you want to go to a bar and role play you going into a bar and "pulling " a young woman , Thailand is the place to do that

Yep, I suppose it's "the role play" (the girl friend syndrome) that still makes the difference. Worth the Airfare? To each his own, I guess.

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On 6/27/2022 at 9:23 AM, BritManToo said:

Makro sell very nice Valencia orange juice at 5l for 250bht, next to the fresh milk.

You should try it!

I did follow your recommendation and my wife brought the item home yesterday. First of all thank you again for the tip - for this is really a lot of orange juice for that price. It comes in a HUGE container ressembling a gasoline canister and needs to be filled up in several other bottles to store all that juice in the fridge.

 

But it is not what I was looking for. But do not worry. At that price it would have been impossible to get, even if this a strictly Thai product. The taste reminds me of the juice they serve in mid-class hotels at the breakfast buffet. It is not directly from the press and I suspect that they added some sugar. If you compare it to the ANDROS brand of which I posted some pictures in this thread we are a million miles away.

 

But many Thai brand juices are similar. That said its a bargain and it may be worthwile for a family with a lot of children.

 

What I will do now is talk to a restaurant owner of who I know is importing many rare food items from Europe for use in his restaurant and for direct sale. Bought some peaches lately and cherries and had truffels and chanterelles with one of his menu items in his restaurant. Maybe I can convince him to include the ANDROS Juice and any Gravensteiner Apple Juice in one of his next imports or even every month for I would be a sure customer for that.

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31 minutes ago, moogradod said:

I did follow your recommendation and my wife brought the item home yesterday. First of all thank you again for the tip - for this is really a lot of orange juice for that price. It comes in a HUGE container ressembling a gasoline canister and needs to be filled up in several other bottles to store all that juice in the fridge.

 

But it is not what I was looking for. But do not worry. At that price it would have been impossible to get, even if this a strictly Thai product. The taste reminds me of the juice they serve in mid-class hotels at the breakfast buffet. It is not directly from the press and I suspect that they added some sugar. If you compare it to the ANDROS brand of which I posted some pictures in this thread we are a million miles away.

 

But many Thai brand juices are similar. That said its a bargain and it may be worthwile for a family with a lot of children.

 

What I will do now is talk to a restaurant owner of who I know is importing many rare food items from Europe for use in his restaurant and for direct sale. Bought some peaches lately and cherries and had truffels and chanterelles with one of his menu items in his restaurant. Maybe I can convince him to include the ANDROS Juice and any Gravensteiner Apple Juice in one of his next imports or even every month for I would be a sure customer for that.

Oh well, its good enough for me! (for the price). As a pensioner I need to get value for money. 

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13 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I've always found the best way to cut costs is to cook your own food. Generally street food is 3x the cost of DIY. Today yellow chicken and potato curry, around 100bht for the ingredients, good for 7-10 servings. 

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Looks good.

I wish I could cook. 

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3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Oh well, its good enough for me! (for the price). As a pensioner I need to get value for money. 

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Andros Orange Jus pictured earlier in the thread is 410 calories per liter 

 

The Daily Fresh Valencia Orange Juice pictured here is 350 calories per liter. (1750 cal. for 5L.)

 

The difference in calories suggests either Daily Fresh is watering theirs down......... or the oranges used by Andros pack a bigger whallop than "Valencia" oranges.

 

But yeah, having 17% more calories, I'd expect the Andros Orange Jus  to have a much more full-bodied flavor than the Daily Fresh.

 

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(I started using calories as a way to compare the relative value of small vs medium vs large at fast food restaurants. It's the same product on all three sizes, so the calorie difference shows exactly how much more you're ACTUALLY  supposed to get, when you step up in size.

 

I've found it's not uncommon for the calorie jump from small to medium to be fairly substantial, but the jump from medium to large to be somewhat smaller.......... often for an even greater jump in price! They won't intentionally tell us what the portion difference is from small to medium to large. But it turns out they DO  tell us accidentally......... if you know how to look for it!)

 

McDonalds Fries.........

 

Kids = 110 calories --

Small = 220 calories -- $1.39

Medium = 320 calories -- $1.79

Large = 490 calories -- $1.89

 

(McDonald's Thailand delivery website shows 49 baht for "Large Shaker Fries," as of today.)

 

(Prices are from RealMenuPrices.Com, which says they were updated June 2022. 

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