So, are BA.4 BA.5 sub-variants containable in Thailand?

[Fairynuff]

11 hours ago, shdmn said:

How do you explain the previous wave in Thailand where cases exploded when everything was shut down and everyone was wearing masks while the western world, including UK, were going down?  Also, how do you explain China which still gets out breaks despite it practically being a capital crime to not wear a mask.

You really need to ask that? Really? So you’d expect a mask to be 100% effective or it’s not  worth wearing? Would you only wear a seat belt in your car if you had a cast iron guarantee that you wouldn’t die in an accident? Jeez, some people ????????

[BKKBike09]

14 hours ago, ozimoron said:

This is precisely my point. Statistically, right wingers share your viewpoint. The left believe that we live in a cooperative society.

A 'cooperative society'? That's what Western ideologue liberals like to think about the socialist approach. The reality is more and more becoming:

 

"So-called freedom can sometimes be easily confused with selfishness" - Hong Kong's new Health Minister, talking about possible introduction of mandatory China-style tracking apps, which I'm sure a 'cooperative society' welcomes.

(https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/macau-lockdown-begins-hong-kong-mulls-health-code-app/news-story/300ba4685a58d3a8aebbff75d56fe7e9

 

If that's what a 'cooperative society' means, we should all be concerned.

[ozimoron]

3 hours ago, BKKBike09 said:

A 'cooperative society'? That's what Western ideologue liberals like to think about the socialist approach. The reality is more and more becoming:

 

"So-called freedom can sometimes be easily confused with selfishness" - Hong Kong's new Health Minister, talking about possible introduction of mandatory China-style tracking apps, which I'm sure a 'cooperative society' welcomes.

(https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/macau-lockdown-begins-hong-kong-mulls-health-code-app/news-story/300ba4685a58d3a8aebbff75d56fe7e9

 

If that's what a 'cooperative society' means, we should all be concerned.

Why would that be what a "cooperative society" means? Do you not understand that my usage of the term meant in the broadest context? What you're trying to do is called "projection", a favourite tactic of the right to smear their opponents by labelling them and telling them what they think. Had you a scintilla of interest in understanding what I meant when I used the term you would simply have asked.

[Bluetongue]

The right want to murder the vulnerable so they can make a few bucks, the left want to save us all with their vast confidence that only they know best. Where is the truth? Nowhere but navigating your own path is tricky as they will both try to stop you.

[Fairynuff]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

you would simply have asked.

That doesn’t suit the agenda. They don’t like facts unless they’ve made them up themselves.

[raccos21]

In the beginning when you get your 2 shots you can go back to normal but nothing will happen as what had been promised.
I was wondering how long all this will go on as every other month there will be a new variant asking people to get a new modified Booster.

Soon or later every one will become zombies.

I’ve gotten my 4th shot, feeling better than after smoking weed, and now I totally can’t wait for the 5th and so on.

Anyways, why don’t they wait for all the variations to appear? Make real vaccines and stop all this bull <deleted>.

I assume it would take decades or more.

[kiwikeith]

On 7/14/2022 at 10:26 AM, shdmn said:

Not containable.  Any suggesting to keep wearing masks as a solution is beyond ridiculous at this point, so of course that is what the WHO is recommending.  It's not more dangerous so nothing to be any more concerned about than previous Omicron variants.

According to published UK government data B4/5 is more infectious, so hospital rates will climb, but the death rate isn't, so far. 

It does not appear to be more serious, I just got Omicron again after my 10 Yr old brought it home from school, he's unvaccinated same as me, it's his second infection as well, the Thai wife got it again as well, she's double vaccinated. My son got a bad cough with flem for over a week, then the wife and I tested positive, both of us slight cough no flegm and were not sick, maybe slight fatigue one day and running nose with sneeze, but over it very quickly not even as bad as the flue, that's 2 adults and a childs story, we presume it's B4/5 as B2 we had 10 weeks ago and B4/5 is what is circulating in NZ at present, but they only issue you with a pack of rapid antigen test kits and of you go home and test yourself, most of my sons school friends tell him that they have it as well and it's school holidays at the moment and their parents don't want to report it, as then your locked at home for 11 days, this seems to be the norm with many of my friends and nobody seems worried, except the very elderly with other problems are still at risk. 

[shdmn]

On 7/16/2022 at 2:16 PM, kiwikeith said:

... he's unvaccinated same as me, it's his second infection as well, the Thai wife got it again as well, she's double vaccinated. My son got a bad cough with flem for over a week, then the wife and I tested positive, both of us slight cough no flegm and were not sick, maybe slight fatigue one day and running nose with sneeze, but over it very quickly not even as bad as the flue, that's 2 adults and a childs story, we presume it's B4/5 as B2 we had 10 weeks ago and B4/5 is what is circulating in NZ at present, but they only issue you with a pack of rapid antigen test kits and of you go home and test yourself, most of my sons school friends tell him that they have it as well and it's school holidays at the moment and their parents don't want to report it, as then your locked at home for 11 days, this seems to be the norm with many of my friends and nobody seems worried, except the very elderly with other problems are still at risk. 

Nuff said.  ????‍♂️

Edited July 19, 2022 by shdmn