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18 minutes ago, Encid said:

So... planning for 60 units next month?

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Hopefully our Real Solar is underway soon, so I am hoping yes maybe even lower.

 

But that said, I am now sincerely doubting if we not 1 go should go for Hybrid + small ESS, but the limiting factor is SWMBO :whistling:

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21 hours ago, 007 RED said:

with a massive bill for 57 units amounting to 239.86 THB, which equates to 4.2 THB per Unit.

We used 106 units amounting to 410.51 THB but we paid less per Unit then you, 3,87 THB per unit.

 

So low usage have HIGHER THB per unit prices because of the added charge of  the VAT / Ft Charge / Service Charge .

 

For example Sept - Oct, 155 units price 587.71 THB price per unit 3.79 THB

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1 hour ago, Crossy said:

@MJCMare low users still getting the FT rebate, I can't remember if it was for 2 or 3 months?

 

 

This period is the last (Nov - Dec) where the discount is active.

 

Dec - Jan bill will see the massive increase in Ft.

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23 hours ago, 007 RED said:

Yesterday (15/11/22) was meter reading day, and we were presented with a massive bill for 57 units amounting to 239.86 THB, which equates to 4.2 THB per Unit.  This is the lowest that we've had since installing our small scale system some 13 months ago.  The system appears to be performing well given the fluctuation in weather conditions during the past month, as shown in the graphs below.

Just to confirm....  The 4.2 THB per Unit figure which I quoted above is based upon the final charge that we have to pay the PEA and includes the total energy cost + monthly fee + Ft - Government discount + VAT.

 

If I just used the energy cost (185.15 THB) for the 57 Units, then the unit cost would equate to 3.25 THB per Unit.

 

I note from previous bills which have been higher, the energy cost per Unit has been higher e.g. 884.12 THB / 244 Units = 3.62 THB per Unit.

 

FYI ..... I have attached below a copy of the 15/11/22 bill.

 

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What is the Ft = 0.9343 THB/Unit  ???????

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22 minutes ago, 007 RED said:

Just to confirm....  The 4.2 THB per Unit figure which I quoted above is based upon the final charge that we have to pay the PEA and includes the total energy cost + monthly fee + Ft - Government discount + VAT.

 

If I just used the energy cost (185.15 THB) for the 57 Units, then the unit cost would equate to 3.25 THB per Unit.

 

I note from previous bills which have been higher the energy cost per Unit has been higher

e.g. 884.12 THB / 244 Units = 3.62 THB per Unit.

 

FYI ..... I have attached below a copy of the 15/11/22 bill.

 

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What is the Ft = 0.9343 THB/Unit  ???????

The price I wrote down is the TOTAL (inclu everything) price and that price divided by the units used. Will post a scan of my latest bill later on then you will see (more usage but lower price per kWh then you). If I only used Energy charge (344.33 THB that would mean a price per unit (106 units used) of also 3,25 THB (same as you)

 

Ft= Fuel Surcharge, and as you can see you got a discount (because lower then 300 units used (sliding scale it is) Original Ft = 53,26 but discount of 52,46

 

Edit: Ft discount will stop after the Nov - Dec period and that it will be increased (AFAIK) massively to maybe over 2 THB per UNIT. (and no discounts, but nothing definite YET)

 

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Here our latest bill

 

If using Energy charge only we come at 3,25 THB per unit.

(344.33 THB / 106 Units = 3.25 THB)

If using total price we came out at 3.88 THB per unit

(410.91 THB / 106 Units = 3.88 THB) (previously I wrote 3.87 but did not ROUND it up :blush:)

 

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57 minutes ago, 007 RED said:

What is the Ft = 0.9343 THB/Unit  ???????

 

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Yes, FT is per unit, times your 57 units.

Since less than 300 units, discount credited

as shown on your bill.

 

So your FT tax was all of ฿0.79

 

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The new FT rates would have added quite a bit to our rental/PEA bill, as we averaged 600-700 units a month.  The normal without covid discounts was quite noticeable, and that before the FT increases proposed.

 

Also explains some of the hotel room rates I've been seeing lately, as considerably higher than before.  Doubt if they're getting discounts, and of course need to pass that along to the customers.

 

Double whammy to the tourist industry, as I read airfares are way up also.  Those having the funds, are probably getting some sticker shock when planning.

 

Next year's going to have a lot of crying about their PEA bills, when discounts are discontinued.

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7 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Next year's going to have a lot of crying about their PEA bills, when discounts are discontinued.

absolutely. I hope my full solar is running then so I can have a usage of around the 60 mark from PEA, but that will still be a 3-400 THB bill (if Ft increases that much)

 

 

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PEA Bill for the Months Dec-Jan just received

 

3 Changes to the previous months

 

1- Service charge reduced from 38.22 to 24,62 THB

2- Ft Charge increased to 0.9343 per unit.

3- We came under 60 units this month to be exact 58 units :thumbsup:

 

Bill was < 300 THB

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When we left home yesterday, for a few day golfing etc … we were on 51 units from MEA.

 

He will read our meter this morning so don’t expect it to have changed.

 

Running all the  month on no export. Only one light and Fridge/Freezer running last night … battery down to about 65%…We were away at Xmas and it’s been cool so that probably explains the low MEA reading 719A881B-0522-4F11-B29A-36A08920C91D.thumb.png.d9193493226b4b42ba5dc294ca799251.png

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8 minutes ago, 007 RED said:

10 minutes ago our local PEA meter reader called and posted the bill in our letter box.  This month has hit an all time low (in terms of purchasing from the PEA) since I installed our small scale system 15 months ago.  We only needed to purchase just 47 units, which cost us a massive 236.68 THB, or 5.036 THB/unit.

 

Our small scale system produced 81% of our household needs (198 Units) this month which meant a saving of 997 THB off our electric bill ????.

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I confirm from our current bill (as shown below), that as indicated by @MJCM in one of his earlier posts, the discount on the FT has been discontinued and we are now paying the full FT cost of 0.9434 THB/unit.  Obviously this has increased the overall unit cost from 4.2 THB/unit last month to 5.036 THB/unit this month ????.

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You even broke that 9 kW ceiling ... 1 day ... ????

 

Our first month having, and being conservative, we average about 10 a day, when not exporting.

 

Slowly went up to 12-15-18, but can't seem to break an average or 20kW a day, and that's with the EV.  Guess I need to drive around more, though we are using the AC more of late, as temps hitting 30+ now in the afternoon.  I don't think we'll break 600 kW this month either.  Barely break 500 kW.

 

People really need to look into a system, any system.  If not overdoing it, ???? ROI is pretty quick.

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1 hour ago, 007 RED said:

the discount on the FT has been discontinued and we are now paying the full FT cost of 0.9434 THB/unit.

But instead of that we get a Discount on the service charge from 38.22 -> 24,62 THB :whistling:

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