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6 minutes ago, H1w4yR1da said:

I've noticed a constant simplistic theme running through all your posts.
That is, everything Thai is good and positive and everything western is bad and negative. Especially when it comes to the men.
You sound like a complete wannabe. I'm surprised you haven't given yourself a Thai name.

Why you in Thailand if you hate it?

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1 minute ago, H1w4yR1da said:

I've noticed a constant simplistic theme running through all your posts.
That is, everything Thai is good and positive and everything western is bad and negative. Especially when it comes to the men.
You sound like a complete wannabe. I'm surprised you haven't given yourself a Thai name.

Do you get a Thai name the same way you choose a porn name?

 

YOUR PORN STAR NAME: (Name of first pet / Street you live on)

 

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1 minute ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Where exactly did he say that he hated Thailand?

 

 

I missed that bit.

 

 

He might just have a balanced view to life in Thailand.

Got no sense of humour, no Thai friends. Not very balanced.

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There is also a big difference in 'attitude', you can make a Thai lose face without meaning to so easily that social interactions can be a mine field, you have to be very careful with friendly banter. I have a Thai neighbour, he is about 50 years old so younger than me, we had a very easy going friendly relationship. He offered to help me paint the outside of my house, he started mixing one bucket of paint with too much water so I stopped him and jokingly pointed to the instructions, "it says here one to four not half and half", he blushed profusely and turned his face away, I then suddenly realized through his response that he couldn't read Thai and I as a falang  could, it was a huge loss of face. Nothing was said openly about him being illiterate but we both understood, it was the end of our easy going relationship, still friendly but distant. I had simply assumed that, like Europe, everybody could read, my bad.

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58 minutes ago, H1w4yR1da said:

Gotta call bs on that.

When you have lived here 33 years, 25 of which are in them same Muban, plus being in 2 exercise clubs its easy. Sorry you are not able to make friends. Keep trying mate.

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5 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

Over the years I've seen hundreds of stupid/pointless/groundless/baiting comments on this forum but that one is currently in the top ten of all time.

 

Clearly written by someone who has all those traits and possibly comes from a country where racism is quite widespread.

Maybe you should read the first dozens of posts in this thread which all said stuff like this about Thai men.  
 

Isn’t it quite telling that a bunch of  white men can write pages of racist comments about Thai men without anyone even noticing, but the moment someone pulls the same racism against white men people get all offended? That should tell you a bit about what “racism is quite widespread” here. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, cocoonclub said:

Maybe you should read the first dozens of posts in this thread which all said stuff like this about Thai men.  
 

Isn’t it quite telling that a bunch of  white men can write pages of racist comments about Thai men without anyone even noticing, but the moment someone pulls the same racism against white men people get all offended? That should tell you a bit about what “racism is quite widespread” here. 

 

 

Given the same things could be written about, eg Scandinavian men if a similar forum existed, I doubt that is relevant.

I only read posts saying why they can't make friends with Thai men and IMO racism didn't come into it. I'm pretty sure an actually racist post would be deleted.

 

However, seems some see racism everywhere.

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On 11/2/2022 at 7:20 PM, soalbundy said:

There is also a big difference in 'attitude', you can make a Thai lose face without meaning to so easily that social interactions can be a mine field, you have to be very careful with friendly banter. I have a Thai neighbour, he is about 50 years old so younger than me, we had a very easy going friendly relationship. He offered to help me paint the outside of my house, he started mixing one bucket of paint with too much water so I stopped him and jokingly pointed to the instructions, "it says here one to four not half and half", he blushed profusely and turned his face away, I then suddenly realized through his response that he couldn't read Thai and I as a falang  could, it was a huge loss of face. Nothing was said openly about him being illiterate but we both understood, it was the end of our easy going relationship, still friendly but distant. I had simply assumed that, like Europe, everybody could read, my bad.

That's a great example. Even if he could read, just offering the correction could do it also.

 

I used to shop at the local Thai food market in a very public setting where locals who knew each other would gather around, etc and someplace I needed to get food every day. Occasionally I would get a wrong dish or the wrong quantity. I just never said anything and just always took what was offered.

 

Any correction should only be implied very subtly (with humor) and even non-verbally especially in any kind of public setting where others could overhear.

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25 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

That's a great example. Even if he could read, just offering the correction could do it also.

 

I used to shop at the local Thai food market in a very public setting where locals who knew each other would gather around, etc and someplace I needed to get food every day. Occasionally I would get a wrong dish or the wrong quantity. I just never said anything and just always took what was offered.

 

Any correction should only be implied very subtly (with humor) and even non-verbally especially in any kind of public setting where others could overhear.

Reminds me of some humorous banter one can have with a falang. In Chiang mai I often ate at a small road side cafe tucked away in a small soi. The owner and cook was an Englishman. One day he made a very good meal and I congratulated him ;-

Me   "well, you're  certainly improving"

Cook   "I'm glad you enjoyed it"

Me   "But I didn't enjoy it, however you are getting better at it"

That would have been pistols at dawn instead of laughter if he had been a Thai, I do miss the funny dark humour and sarcasm of England. Thais don't do sarcasm, even my Thai/British 15 year old son who speaks perfect English doesn't understand it, it just annoys him.

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18 hours ago, JimTripper said:

That's a great example. Even if he could read, just offering the correction could do it also.

 

I used to shop at the local Thai food market in a very public setting where locals who knew each other would gather around, etc and someplace I needed to get food every day. Occasionally I would get a wrong dish or the wrong quantity. I just never said anything and just always took what was offered.

 

Any correction should only be implied very subtly (with humor) and even non-verbally especially in any kind of public setting where others could overhear.

Agree.

Long ago when a certain hotel existed near Soi Cowboy, I stayed in it every time with my CF of the time. One time the drinking water jug was contaminated with dirt or something, and I was going to complain to the waiter, but GF told me to say nothing. I didn't say anything, and didn't drink the water, but wondered why.

Your post explains it nicely.

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18 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Reminds me of some humorous banter one can have with a falang. In Chiang mai I often ate at a small road side cafe tucked away in a small soi. The owner and cook was an Englishman. One day he made a very good meal and I congratulated him ;-

Me   "well, you're  certainly improving"

Cook   "I'm glad you enjoyed it"

Me   "But I didn't enjoy it, however you are getting better at it"

That would have been pistols at dawn instead of laughter if he had been a Thai, I do miss the funny dark humour and sarcasm of England. Thais don't do sarcasm, even my Thai/British 15 year old son who speaks perfect English doesn't understand it, it just annoys him.

Even American and British humour is different. I can't stand Jerry Lewis, or Adam Sandler.

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18 hours ago, soalbundy said:

That would have been pistols at dawn instead of laughter if he had been a Thai, I do miss the funny dark humour and sarcasm of England.

Reminds me of the time I was passing security in Heathrow. English guy made a joke and the ( foreign ) security person had a full on melt down, and held us all up for about 10 minutes. They obviously don't train those security people very well. Pathetic lack of self control.

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18 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Reminds me of some humorous banter one can have with a falang. In Chiang mai I often ate at a small road side cafe tucked away in a small soi. The owner and cook was an Englishman. One day he made a very good meal and I congratulated him ;-

Me   "well, you're  certainly improving"

Cook   "I'm glad you enjoyed it"

Me   "But I didn't enjoy it, however you are getting better at it"

That would have been pistols at dawn instead of laughter if he had been a Thai, I do miss the funny dark humour and sarcasm of England. Thais don't do sarcasm, even my Thai/British 15 year old son who speaks perfect English doesn't understand it, it just annoys him.

 

25 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Even American and British humour is different. I can't stand Jerry Lewis, or Adam Sandler.

The really great thing about it is they do a lot of head slapping which is about the worst thing you could do to people or service staff in Thailand. ???? Makes it all the funnier.

 

 

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