Thailand’s Health Minister Anutin defends Cannabis Bill in parliament

[cnx101]

All products from plants with no chemicals should be legal weed, opium etc they don’t make people violent and crazy as things like yaba and alcohol do, just make people happy and relaxed.

[jacko45k]

4 hours ago, David T Pike said:

Cannabis can and has healed way more then it has harmed. Not so much with alcohol or tobacco and it is indeed "madness" to draw any other conclusion.

What  something 'can' do surely cannot be part of any medical evaluation. Do you have any reference to back up that smoking tobacco is bad for you, while smoking cannabis is good for you? What does cannabis actually heal? I was more inclined to believe it eased negative symptoms and was purely palliative.

Edited November 25, 2022 by jacko45k

[mjakob007]

How this minister has transformed himself to be a hero among the farangs from being hated during the days of Covid...

[Paradise Pete]

On 11/25/2022 at 7:56 AM, JBChiangRai said:

there is a huge amount of peer reviewed studies confirming recreational use of same is extremely bad,

 

For sufficiently small values of "extremely."

[David T Pike]

On 11/24/2022 at 11:14 PM, jacko45k said:

What  something 'can' do surely cannot be part of any medical evaluation. Do you have any reference to back up that smoking tobacco is bad for you, while smoking cannabis is good for you? What does cannabis actually heal? I was more inclined to believe it eased negative symptoms and was purely palliative.

For one, Cannabis does not need to be smoked. It can be vaped or eaten as edibles. As most people are aware, smoking tobacco carries many serious risks. These include lung cancer, many other cancers, heart disease, COPD, strokes and a wide range of other conditions. On the whole, smoking kills around 480,000 people each year in the U.S., and is the leading preventable cause of death in the country. 

 

  I should have said treated instead of it being curative but it has been proven that it may cure many maladies.

https://herb.co/news/health/5-common-illnesses-didnt-know-marijuana-can-cure/

 

[David T Pike]

5 minutes ago, David T Pike said:

For one, Cannabis does not need to be smoked. It can be vaped or eaten as edibles. As most people are aware, smoking tobacco carries many serious risks. These include lung cancer, many other cancers, heart disease, COPD, strokes and a wide range of other conditions. On the whole, smoking kills around 480,000 people each year in the U.S., and is the leading preventable cause of death in the country. 

 

  I should have said treated instead of it being curative but it has been proven that it may cure many maladies.

https://herb.co/news/health/5-common-illnesses-didnt-know-marijuana-can-cure/

 

It can also help treat: 

Pain

Helping To Decrease Opioid Use

Anxiety

Epilepsy

Glaucoma

HIV/AIDS Symptoms

Inflammatory Bowel Disease

Irritable Bowel Syndrome

Movement Disorders Due to Tourette Syndrome

Multiple Sclerosis

Nausea and Vomiting Related to Cancer Chemotherapy

Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)

Sleep Problems

 

https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/cannabis-marijuana-and-cannabinoids-what-you-need-to-know#:~:text=Are cannabis or cannabinoids helpful,loss associated with HIV%2FAIDS.

[still kicking]

Merry Christmas Anutin 

 

[JBChiangRai]

On 11/30/2022 at 1:32 AM, David T Pike said:

It can also help treat: 

Pain

Helping To Decrease Opioid Use

Anxiety

Epilepsy

Glaucoma

HIV/AIDS Symptoms

Inflammatory Bowel Disease

Irritable Bowel Syndrome

Movement Disorders Due to Tourette Syndrome

Multiple Sclerosis

Nausea and Vomiting Related to Cancer Chemotherapy

Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)

Sleep Problems

 

https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/cannabis-marijuana-and-cannabinoids-what-you-need-to-know#:~:text=Are cannabis or cannabinoids helpful,loss associated with HIV%2FAIDS.

 

That same report goes on to say...

 

"Are cannabis and cannabinoids safe?

Several concerns have been raised about the safety of cannabis and cannabinoids:

• The use of cannabis has been linked to an increased risk of motor vehicle crashes.
• Smoking cannabis during pregnancy has been linked to lower birth weight.
• Some people who use cannabis develop cannabis use disorder, which has symptoms such as craving, withdrawal, lack of control, and negative effects on personal and professional responsibilities.
• Adolescents using cannabis are four to seven times more likely than adults to develop cannabis use disorder.
• Cannabis use is associated with an increased risk of injury among older adults.
• The use of cannabis, especially frequent use, has been linked to a higher risk of developing schizophrenia or other psychoses (severe mental illnesses) in people who are predisposed to these illnesses.
• Marijuana may cause orthostatic hypotension (head rush or dizziness on standing up), possibly raising danger from fainting and falls.
• The FDA has warned the public not to use vaping products that contain THC. Products of this type have been implicated in many of the reported cases of serious lung injuries linked to vaping.
• There have been many reports of unintentional consumption of cannabis or its products by children, leading to illnesses severe enough to require emergency room treatment or admission to a hospital. Among a group of people who became ill after accidental exposure to candies containing THC, the children generally had more severe symptoms than the adults and needed to stay in the hospital longer.
• Some long-term users of high doses of cannabis have developed a condition involving recurrent severe vomiting.
• There have been reports of contamination of cannabis/cannabinoid products with microorganisms, pesticides, or other substances.
• Some cannabis/cannabinoid products contain amounts of cannabinoids that differ substantially from what’s stated on their labels.

Can CBD be harmful?

There’s evidence that CBD may be harmful to some people."

 

Further, most of the benefits you mention are qualified by saying they are small or statistically insignificant in tests, for example the most recent, a peer reviewed article in The Journal of Clinical Oncology of 144 person double blinded study on the efficacy of CBD oil in palliative care for cancer found it has no benefit.  The results of the recent study, published November 28 in the journal JAMA Network Open, echo those of another large 2021 analysis of the available evidence by the International Association for the Study of Pain. Based on those findings, the association issued a statement against the use of marijuana for pain.

 

As someone who volunteered one day a week as a magistrate, my issue with marijuana is the number of marijuana induced mental illness cases through cannabis use disorder we had to deal with.  I suspected some of the driving offences I saw involving crashes were linked to Cannabis but drug wipes weren't available then.  They are available now and my colleagues on the bench tell me there is now significant numbers of crashes involving Cannabis.

 

[Barnet1900]

On 11/24/2022 at 9:53 PM, peter zwart said:

Im afraid for mr Anutin that his reputation under the thai people has gone south. Dont think he have any chance anymore to be the next PM. 

Don't be afraid. He shouldn't be anywhere near politics. He's a bigot

[David T Pike]

On 12/2/2022 at 6:26 PM, JBChiangRai said:

 

That same report goes on to say...

 

"Are cannabis and cannabinoids safe?

Several concerns have been raised about the safety of cannabis and cannabinoids:

• The use of cannabis has been linked to an increased risk of motor vehicle crashes.
• Smoking cannabis during pregnancy has been linked to lower birth weight.
• Some people who use cannabis develop cannabis use disorder, which has symptoms such as craving, withdrawal, lack of control, and negative effects on personal and professional responsibilities.
• Adolescents using cannabis are four to seven times more likely than adults to develop cannabis use disorder.
• Cannabis use is associated with an increased risk of injury among older adults.
• The use of cannabis, especially frequent use, has been linked to a higher risk of developing schizophrenia or other psychoses (severe mental illnesses) in people who are predisposed to these illnesses.
• Marijuana may cause orthostatic hypotension (head rush or dizziness on standing up), possibly raising danger from fainting and falls.
• The FDA has warned the public not to use vaping products that contain THC. Products of this type have been implicated in many of the reported cases of serious lung injuries linked to vaping.
• There have been many reports of unintentional consumption of cannabis or its products by children, leading to illnesses severe enough to require emergency room treatment or admission to a hospital. Among a group of people who became ill after accidental exposure to candies containing THC, the children generally had more severe symptoms than the adults and needed to stay in the hospital longer.
• Some long-term users of high doses of cannabis have developed a condition involving recurrent severe vomiting.
• There have been reports of contamination of cannabis/cannabinoid products with microorganisms, pesticides, or other substances.
• Some cannabis/cannabinoid products contain amounts of cannabinoids that differ substantially from what’s stated on their labels.

Can CBD be harmful?

There’s evidence that CBD may be harmful to some people."

 

Further, most of the benefits you mention are qualified by saying they are small or statistically insignificant in tests, for example the most recent, a peer reviewed article in The Journal of Clinical Oncology of 144 person double blinded study on the efficacy of CBD oil in palliative care for cancer found it has no benefit.  The results of the recent study, published November 28 in the journal JAMA Network Open, echo those of another large 2021 analysis of the available evidence by the International Association for the Study of Pain. Based on those findings, the association issued a statement against the use of marijuana for pain.

 

As someone who volunteered one day a week as a magistrate, my issue with marijuana is the number of marijuana induced mental illness cases through cannabis use disorder we had to deal with.  I suspected some of the driving offences I saw involving crashes were linked to Cannabis but drug wipes weren't available then.  They are available now and my colleagues on the bench tell me there is now significant numbers of crashes involving Cannabis.

 

Haters gonna hate. What is your views on alcohol vs cannabis? Which one is more dangerous and deadly? Which one can treat disease? Which one is legal?

Edited December 16, 2022 by David T Pike

[jacko45k]

2 hours ago, David T Pike said:

Haters gonna hate. What is your views on alcohol vs cannabis? Which one is more dangerous and deadly? Which one can treat disease? Which one is legal?

It is well known alcohol is a great sterilizer, moderate use reduces heart disease and stroke risk... but why bring a straw man to the discussion? 

If you cannot do better than shine a light elsewhere you are losing the debate. 

[JBChiangRai]

2 hours ago, David T Pike said:

Haters gonna hate. What is your views on alcohol vs cannabis? Which one is more dangerous and deadly? Which one can treat disease? Which one is legal?

The whole idea of justifying cannabis on the basis of another product is nonsense.

 

We should be allowed to have guns because kitchen knives are legal and more dangerous, total nonsense.

 

[David T Pike]

On 12/16/2022 at 5:37 PM, JBChiangRai said:

The whole idea of justifying cannabis on the basis of another product is nonsense.

 

We should be allowed to have guns because kitchen knives are legal and more dangerous, total nonsense.

 

OK fine! Cannabis can stand on its own as a healing herb.

[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, David T Pike said:

OK fine! Cannabis can stand on its own as a healing herb.

Not doing too well though is it?

[David T Pike]

On 12/25/2022 at 7:48 PM, jacko45k said:

Not doing too well though is it?

It's doing a helluva lot better than it was 10 years ago!