Scott 20901 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Former President Trump wanted to fire the former White House chief usher for helping the Bidens move into the executive mansion, former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham told the select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. Why it matters: Grisham's account indicates that Trump's desire to delay or prevent the transition of power after the 2020 election affected traditionally nonpolitical White House positions. The detail was included in a transcript of Grisham's interview with the select committee that was released Thursday along with several other interview transcripts, including one from Donald Trump Jr. https://www.axios.com/2022/12/29/trump-fire-usher-bidens-white-house-ex-press-secretary Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug 30801 Posted December 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2022 Not surprised a bit trump is a petty nasty human being a really despicable specimen I’d bet money that a majority of Republican lawmakers would be mighty relived to see him gone.they are terrified of standing up to him.I heard an expression on pbs in respect to this dilemma it goes something like this(it’s in the best interests of the mice to put a bell on the cat but it’s hard to find the mouse to do it) he’s just a malignant nasty ugly vindictive (fill in the blank)specimen. 10 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron 22760 Posted December 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, Tug said: Not surprised a bit trump is a petty nasty human being a really despicable specimen I’d bet money that a majority of Republican lawmakers would be mighty relived to see him gone.they are terrified of standing up to him.I heard an expression on pbs in respect to this dilemma it goes something like this(it’s in the best interests of the mice to put a bell on the cat but it’s hard to find the mouse to do it) he’s just a malignant nasty ugly vindictive (fill in the blank)specimen. You saved me a post. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bendejo 11814 Posted December 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Tug said: I’d bet money that a majority of Republican lawmakers would be mighty relived to see him gone Be sure of it. They have been depending on the Dems to finish him off (Mitch has been heard speaking of it) but they don't have the guts to help -- how many would have liked to vote for the two impeachments? Spineless wimps. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing 94944 Posted December 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2022 He's a horrible human being that shouldn't have ever had access to any elected office, much less the most powerful one in the world. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers 48853 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 From the linked article. Former President Trump wanted to fire the former White House chief usher for helping the Bidens move into the executive mansion, former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham told the select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. I don't see any corroborating evidence for that, so is it just her word ( for what that is worth )? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder 37073 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: From the linked article. Former President Trump wanted to fire the former White House chief usher for helping the Bidens move into the executive mansion, former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham told the select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. I don't see any corroborating evidence for that, so is it just her word ( for what that is worth )? He was fired just before the Trumps left the White House. Ultimately, Harleth was fired on Inauguration Day even before the Bidens officially moved into the White House, according to the New York Times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh 26346 Posted December 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2022 45 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: From the linked article. Former President Trump wanted to fire the former White House chief usher for helping the Bidens move into the executive mansion, former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham told the select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. I don't see any corroborating evidence for that, so is it just her word ( for what that is worth )? I believe her. Just judge Trump’s record setting turnover of high and low level staffs that were either fired or resigned. So this news is not a surprise. Just a pattern of his egoistic behavior that want total obedience and pettiness. She also was in a position in the administration to see all those shenanigans. 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder 37073 Posted December 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: I believe her. Just judge Trump’s record setting turnover of high and low level staffs that were either fired or resigned. So this news is not a surprise. Just a pattern of his egoistic behavior that want total obedience and pettiness. She also was in a position in the administration to see all those shenanigans. Anyway, the fact that Trump ultimately did fire him, is supporting evidence enough. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl 33563 Posted December 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: From the linked article. Former President Trump wanted to fire the former White House chief usher for helping the Bidens move into the executive mansion, former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham told the select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. I don't see any corroborating evidence for that, so is it just her word ( for what that is worth )? Are you still doubting his intentions with many of his former staff coming with examples of his behaviour? 9 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron 22760 Posted December 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: From the linked article. Former President Trump wanted to fire the former White House chief usher for helping the Bidens move into the executive mansion, former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham told the select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. I don't see any corroborating evidence for that, so is it just her word ( for what that is worth )? Don't see any evidence refuting what she said. The Jan 6 committee characterised Orlando's testimony as unconvincing and he claimed to have forgotten almost everything except his own name. Not even republicans are pushing back against her. Spaghetti monster anyone? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht 13633 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Donald who??? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron 22760 Posted December 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 minute ago, 2baht said: Donald who??? The only republican presidential candidate if you don't count the missing in action Ye. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pomchop 7759 Posted December 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: From the linked article. Former President Trump wanted to fire the former White House chief usher for helping the Bidens move into the executive mansion, former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham told the select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. I don't see any corroborating evidence for that, so is it just her word ( for what that is worth )? you mean like no evidence of massive voter fraud that MAGA has been pushing for two years as fact? got it. 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter 6878 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) This is news...sorta like all those breathlessly reported media accounts of Trump trying to take the wheel of The Beast on 1/6 and drive to the Capitol and lead the "riots" for which the special comittee found no evidentiary support 🙄 Edited December 31, 2022 by Pattaya Spotter 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron 22760 Posted December 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Pattaya Spotter said: This is news...sorta like all those breathlessly reported media accounts of Trump trying to take the wheel of The Beast on 1/6 and drive to the Capitol and lead the "riots" for which the special comittee found no evidentiary support 🙄 Are you suggesting that Hutchinson should not have testified to the best of her knowledge and belief as she was required to do under oath? 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide 20660 Posted December 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2022 30 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said: This is news...sorta like all those breathlessly reported media accounts of Trump trying to take the wheel of The Beast on 1/6 and drive to the Capitol and lead the "riots" for which the special comittee found no evidentiary support 🙄 The funny steering wheel story has not been confirmed. However, the most important, that Trump was angry and wanted to be driven to the Capitol has been corroborated by other witnesses and evidence. Testimony and communications from Secret Service agents and former White House officials shared Thursday showed former President Trump was intent on traveling to the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3687026-testimony-underscores-trumps-desire-to-go-to-capitol-on-jan-6/ https://news.yahoo.com/witness-says-trump-irate-secret-010406520.html 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron 22760 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 minute ago, candide said: The funny steering wheel story has not been confirmed. However, the most important, that Trump was angry and wanted to be driven to the Capitol has been corroborated by other witnesses and evidence. Testimony and communications from Secret Service agents and former White House officials shared Thursday showed former President Trump was intent on traveling to the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3687026-testimony-underscores-trumps-desire-to-go-to-capitol-on-jan-6/ https://news.yahoo.com/witness-says-trump-irate-secret-010406520.html He promised the angry mob that he would do so and then left them blowing in the wind. A promise not fulfilled. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pattaya Spotter 6878 Posted December 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, candide said: The funny steering wheel story has not been confirmed. However, the most important, that Trump was angry and wanted to be driven to the Capitol has been corroborated by other witnesses and evidence. Testimony and communications from Secret Service agents and former White House officials shared Thursday showed former President Trump was intent on traveling to the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3687026-testimony-underscores-trumps-desire-to-go-to-capitol-on-jan-6/ https://news.yahoo.com/witness-says-trump-irate-secret-010406520.html So you believe some media lies but not others. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint 43956 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 3 hours ago, ozimoron said: Are you suggesting that Hutchinson should not have testified to the best of her knowledge and belief as she was required to do under oath? No doubt he would have fired her for doing her duty, which would be a pathetically churlish thing to do. Why, it would be almost as bad as firing someone for doing their job by helping your opponent and successor move into the White House, and who would be so insecure and nasty enough to do that? Oh, wait a minute.... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide 20660 Posted December 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: So you believe some media lies but not others. Which media lies? Testimonies under oath. In summary, you have nothing. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Media 4202 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Reported post with unsubstantiated claims has been removed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter 6878 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) On 12/31/2022 at 6:17 PM, candide said: Which media lies? Testimonies under oath. In summary, you have nothing. So you're one if those guys who believe the testilying...the James twins Clapper and Comey love guys like you. Edited January 2 by Pattaya Spotter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers 48853 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 12/31/2022 at 4:03 PM, stevenl said: Are you still doubting his intentions with many of his former staff coming with examples of his behaviour? I don't know what his intentions were/ are, and neither do you, unless claiming to be psychic- are you? I merely asked if there is any corroborating evidence. If you don't know, why are you asking about something I can't possible know. Are you baiting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide 20660 Posted January 2 Popular Post Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Pattaya Spotter said: So you're one if those guys who believe the testilying...the James twins Clapper and Comey love guys like you. Not tired of trolling? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder 37073 Posted January 2 Popular Post Share Posted January 2 4 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: So you're one if those guys who believe the testilying...the James twins Clapper and Comey love guys like you. Maybe he's one of those guys who not only believes a Trump staff member, but also thinks the fact that Trump actually did fire the usher just before Biden's inaugurations supports the contention that Trump was not happy with him. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 38273 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 12/31/2022 at 8:30 AM, thaibeachlovers said: From the linked article. Former President Trump wanted to fire the former White House chief usher for helping the Bidens move into the executive mansion, former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham told the select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. I don't see any corroborating evidence for that, so is it just her word ( for what that is worth )? Just because you don't see doesn't mean that it didn't happen. I am quite sure that if the Jan 6 Select committee were told about it, then someone would have investigated it. If the report was false then she would have been charged with an offence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl 33563 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: I don't know what his intentions were/ are, and neither do you, unless claiming to be psychic- are you? I merely asked if there is any corroborating evidence. If you don't know, why are you asking about something I can't possible know. Are you baiting? Plenty of testimony to show his intentions. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers 48853 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 On 1/3/2023 at 12:13 AM, stevenl said: Plenty of testimony to show his intentions. Testimony by people that dislike Trump is not necessarily factual. Unless he is actually on record as saying something it's only an opinion as to what his "intentions" were. For all we know he could have been havin' a laff. BTW far as I know, intentions alone are not a crime. One has to do something to be guilty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers 48853 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 On 1/3/2023 at 12:07 AM, billd766 said: I am quite sure that if the Jan 6 Select committee were told about it, then someone would have investigated it. If the report was false then she would have been charged with an offence. Pull the other one, it's got bells on it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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