Scott Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 13 Teachers across all grade levels in Florida’s Manatee County School District are closing off students’ access to their classroom libraries due to the Florida books ban. The Sarasota Herald-Tribune reports that teachers have been instructed to remove all books from their classroom libraries that have not yet been approved by a certified media specialist. Kevin Chapman, the district’s chief of staff, made the announcement on Monday, January 23. The Sarasota Herald-Tribune reports that teachers have been instructed to remove all books from their classroom libraries that have not yet been approved by a certified media specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) Reaches for book on history of 20th Century Europe…. Before its ordered banned. Edited January 29, 2023 by Chomper Higgot 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) All because trumpist fascist demagogue DeSantis hopes to be president. DeSantis Is 'Very Dangerous Individual' Without Trump's Drama: Expert (businessinsider.com) Quote DeSantis is a 'very dangerous individual' because he has 'already absorbed all the lessons of Trump' but doesn't have any of the baggage, an expert on fascism argues Edited January 29, 2023 by Jingthing 9 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 That wannabe fascist will never be president he may play well with the Florida retirees and crack heads but his obviously sielf serving ignorant rasist bs ain’t gonna fly for the majority of Americans he’s allready facing backlash from the people of Florida not all Americans want to take refuge in ignorance there are lots of us who want to make our country a better place for all you can’t achieve growth through ignorance we must embrace knowledge Ronnie’s doomed imo 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tug said: That wannabe fascist will never be president he may play well with the Florida retirees and crack heads but his obviously sielf serving ignorant rasist bs ain’t gonna fly for the majority of Americans he’s allready facing backlash from the people of Florida not all Americans want to take refuge in ignorance there are lots of us who want to make our country a better place for all you can’t achieve growth through ignorance we must embrace knowledge Ronnie’s doomed imo In any case it won't be a cake walk. As it stands now, the republicans are structured to nominate somebody that is maga fascist type, whether it's trump, DeSantis, or another one of their bozos. Old school non maga fascist republicans still don't have a chance. Trump himself is fading away, but Trumpism is tragically still very much alive. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2009 Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 45 minutes ago, Jingthing said: All because trumpist fascist demagogue DeSantis hopes to be president. DeSantis Is 'Very Dangerous Individual' Without Trump's Drama: Expert (businessinsider.com) Hang on. The left are the biggest fascists these days. They hate virtually everyone 6 1 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, 2009 said: Hang on. The left are the biggest fascists these days. They hate virtually everyone Ahhh no the left is inclusive inquisitive and policy oriented towards creating a more inclusive America and helping the American people progress towards a more perfect Union 5 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 Quote Florida considers books to be more dangerous to students than assault rifles. Assault rifles are allowed in the classroom? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tug said: Ahhh no the left is inclusive inquisitive and policy oriented towards creating a more inclusive America and helping the American people progress towards a more perfect Union Careful. People might think you're being serious. You need to pop in a few emojis. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 Quote The Manatee County School District directed teachers to remove all books that had not yet been approved by a specialist from their classroom libraries, Kevin Chapman, the district's chief of staff, said Monday. Chapman said many of the books teachers make available to students in their classrooms are likely already approved through the district's library system, but many teachers have chosen to close access altogether, since making unvetted books available could lead to felony prosecution. The district did not, however, directly advise teachers to shut down classroom libraries and cover them up, Chapman said. Sounds like the teachers might be "shutting down" their classroom libraries when they don't have to, in order to try and make it seem like all books have been banned. By the title of this topic, it seems to be working. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 All books are not being removed though , just books that contain pornography and see below "In a message sent from the Manatee district to principals, the material must be “free of pornography” and “appropriate for the age level and group.” New training approved by the State Board of Education also asks media specialists to avoid materials with “unsolicited theories that may lead to student indoctrination.” 5 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: All books are not being removed though , just books that contain pornography and see below "In a message sent from the Manatee district to principals, the material must be “free of pornography” and “appropriate for the age level and group.” New training approved by the State Board of Education also asks media specialists to avoid materials with “unsolicited theories that may lead to student indoctrination.” Your quote contradicts your post. You may also want to look into how appropriateness has been defined, together with 'unsolicited theories that may lead to indoctrination '. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: All books are not being removed though , just books that contain pornography and see below I'm guessing it's a conservative government and the teachers are liberals, so they're lying to try and make the government look bad. Sad that teachers are making kids suffer in order to try and score some political points. Seems wise to keep an eye on what books are making it into classrooms, given the rate at which teachers are trying to push controversial ideology on their students. (No room for that in the classroom, whether left or right.) 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, stevenl said: Your quote contradicts your post. He says "and see below" so the quote is in addition to the statement, therefore not contradictory. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liddelljohn Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 All fanatics be they religious, political, managerial, military , left wing , right wing fascists , commies , liberals , greens, environmentalists etc etc all of them need to be culled , to save humanity, freedom , rational thought ,democracy and common sense , and true natural justice , 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HuskerDo2 Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 Just now, Mac Mickmanus said: All books are not being removed though , just books that contain pornography and see below "In a message sent from the Manatee district to principals, the material must be “free of pornography” and “appropriate for the age level and group.” New training approved by the State Board of Education also asks media specialists to avoid materials with “unsolicited theories that may lead to student indoctrination.” I remember the National Geographic magazines in the library at my grade school. I don't think anyone else knew there were pictures in some of the magazines taken in Africa with topless women. Ahhhhh, the good old days. When porn was blindly allowed in grade schools. ???? 3 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, HuskerDo2 said: I remember the National Geographic magazines in the library at my grade school. I don't think anyone else knew there were pictures in some of the magazines taken in Africa with topless women. Ahhhhh, the good old days. When porn was blindly allowed in grade schools. ???? You should have looked in the medical books , those were hardcore Edited January 29, 2023 by Mac Mickmanus 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, stevenl said: Your quote contradicts your post. You may also want to look into how appropriateness has been defined, together with 'unsolicited theories that may lead to indoctrination '. I did mean, like "see below" for the other reasons and my post had the same info in it as the quote and the quote gave further reasons , so, no contradiction there 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, 2009 said: Hang on. The left are the biggest fascists these days. They hate virtually everyone That's just the cynical right wing REVERSO game. It plays with other right wingers. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 51 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: All books are not being removed though , just books that contain pornography and see below "In a message sent from the Manatee district to principals, the material must be “free of pornography” and “appropriate for the age level and group.” New training approved by the State Board of Education also asks media specialists to avoid materials with “unsolicited theories that may lead to student indoctrination.” It’s all in the definitions, but the point is ‘the banning of books’. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Credo Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 I sure hope no one tells DeSantis about that thing called the internet where children are exposed to some serious <deleted> and that is without a parent or teacher to help them understand what they are seeing or reading. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 16 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: You should have looked in the medical books , those were hardcore Hardcore medical books. Anatomy and reproductive science is like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 Republican maga types seem to want the non-elite public comfortably DUMB, Who else would continue to vote for them? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, Credo said: I sure hope no one tells DeSantis about that thing called the internet where children are exposed to some serious <deleted> and that is without a parent or teacher to help them understand what they are seeing or reading. Ain’t that the truth geeessshhhh and I was lucky to find a National Geographic as a kid now I feel deprived lol ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: It’s all in the definitions, but the point is ‘the banning of books’. They're saying only authorised books are allowed. It's a shame that things have come to this, but, unfortunately, many teachers are introducing radical texts with the aim of indoctrinating children into their ideology. (And no, they aren't presenting them neutrally to educate the children in various different ideologies.) As they say, "teach them how to think, not what to think". 3 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Republican maga types seem to want the non-elite public comfortably DUMB, Who else would continue to vote for them? Can you give an example of which books aren't being allowed in order to make people dumb? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 35 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Can you give an example of which books aren't being allowed in order to make people dumb? Here is an example dumb right now because he didn't say what you're implying. He said the banning of books dumbs down the population. How did you not get that? Or maybe you did and you're just trolling? Banning books lowers educational standards by definition. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 56 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: They're saying only authorised books are allowed. It's a shame that things have come to this, but, unfortunately, many teachers are introducing radical texts with the aim of indoctrinating children into their ideology. (And no, they aren't presenting them neutrally to educate the children in various different ideologies.) As they say, "teach them how to think, not what to think". The usual right wing alternate reality. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, candide said: The usual right wing alternate reality. The alternate reality is some people claiming that all books have been banned 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark Nothing Posted January 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2023 School libraries should not contain books innappropriate to impressionable young students. Some of the topics of banned books include changing gender, gay love, critical race theory and other absurd concepts not appropriate for students. Parents and officials protecting their children from this filth that tears down the fabric of society should be applauded. 3 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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