A pixelated image of Mr. Carkhuff and him being attacked by the guard, inset. Photo: Sanook.com

 

by TNR Staff

 

AN AMERICAN tourist who was handcuffed and slapped in the face by a pub guard eight days ago over a misunderstanding about a bottle of water Sunday (Mar. 5) filed a police report for prosecution of the owner and the guard who attacked him, Sanook.com said.

 

The victim, only identified as Mr. Carhuff, was accompanied by his lawyer, Mr. Kriengsak Pinthusornsri, in filing this report.

 

He related that at 2 a.m. on Feb. 25 he and his brother together with two female friends had gone to this pub on Khao San road. One of the women ordered two bottles of beer to drink and the bartender handed over a bottle of water as well.

 

As he thought the water was free, he took it to their table. He added that in the US when a customer starts feeling intoxicated the pubs and bars immediately give them free water to drink and he thought this was the case in Thailand too.

 

Full story: https://thainewsroom.com/2023/03/05/tourist-takes-action-about-being-slapped-handcuffed-by-pub-guard/

 

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What's the odds that the victim ends up in prison and/or sued for 'defamation' and forced to remain in Thailand for years while it goes through court?

"A pixelated image of Mr. Carkhuff"

 

You mean some people dont look this!?!?!!?!?!

As Dorthy said "Toto we ain't in Kansas anymore..." go back home fool and quit wasting peoples time..

Whatever the outcome of this complaint, it's nice to see a foreigner standing up for themselves for a change and actually making an official complaint against a Thai in a case where on the surface it seems that one is warranted. All too often foreigners are walked over in Thailand, treated unfairly and do nothing when an official complaint really is warranted. Of course, in some cases the foreigner may have been partially in the wrong or exacerbated things but in this case it really sounds like the pub staff messed up.

 

It appears the pub owner is keen to settle so perhaps a confidential settlement will take place and the American will return to the States with some extra cash.

Edited March 5, 20233 yr by mstevens

6 minutes ago, mstevens said:

Whatever the outcome of this complaint, it's nice to see a foreigner standing up for themselves for a change and actually making an official complaint against a Thai in a case where on the surface it seems that one is warranted. All too often foreigners are walked over in Thailand, treated unfairly and do nothing when an official complaint really is warranted. Of course, in some cases the foreigner may have been partially in the wrong or exacerbated things but in this case it really sounds like the pub staff messed up.

 

It appears the pub owner is keen to settle so perhaps a confidential settlement will take place and the American will return to the States with some extra cash.

So Sad USD/Euro/THB comes into play here.  Was there any real financial damage?

American...which Country, there are about 37 Countries in the Americas.

One does not get to apply their home laws in a Foreign land.

He made an error in judgement, the Thai Bouncer over reacted...common issue in LOFS.

Thai Lawyer is the only one to come-ahead here.

Walk away leave it as it is   u will not win 

if u stay around after settlement they will find u and u will get probably a beating  

but no one will see and is this all worth it

or are u making out as a populist 

Mr. Carhuff could had met the owner already, and received a unknown amount.

 

What's the point with prosecution of the owner and the guard?

 

Owner was early very apologetic, closed the Pub for few days, fired the security man who is now famous for all the wrong reasons.

 

Strongly doubt Mr. Carhuff will get any big Payday, bringing this to Court. 

 

4 hours ago, webfact said:

over a misunderstanding about a bottle of water

if sober, you pay, smile, realize it's Thailand, move on.

 

if drunk, you think, "Hey, are they trying to scam me?!!!!  Is this the beginning of a bigger scam!!!  Hey, I'm not an idiot and I'm not paying 56,000 for a bottle of water."

 

I understand it, and I've seen lots of farangs change when drunk..........   Oh, I'll come to LOS to meditate, become one with myself, learn how to relax.................  lol

They took him to a back room to negotiate?????        There is MORE to this story!!!!!  

 

Dude is a plumber, which is a looked-down upon profession in America.  Convince yourself otherwise, but it's hired help.    He needed Thailand!!!  lol

 

 

another snowflake who should go home to mommy

Edited March 5, 20233 yr by malibukid

Most security guards are polite and good at their jobs but a small minority are on a power trip, probably trying to impress some nearby thaigirl

He sounds in a right huff about it good luck ????

2 hours ago, hellohello123 said:

"A pixelated image of Mr. Carkhuff"

 

You mean some people dont look this!?!?!!?!?!

Exactly!!....he is not a suspect needing his identity pixeled.....he is the complainant.   

33 minutes ago, BananaStrong said:

if sober, you pay, smile, realize it's Thailand, move on.

 

if drunk, you think, "Hey, are they trying to scam me?!!!!  Is this the beginning of a bigger scam!!!  Hey, I'm not an idiot and I'm not paying 56,000 for a bottle of water."

 

I understand it, and I've seen lots of farangs change when drunk..........   Oh, I'll come to LOS to meditate, become one with myself, learn how to relax.................  lol

They took him to a back room to negotiate?????        There is MORE to this story!!!!!  

 

Dude is a plumber, which is a looked-down upon profession in America.  Convince yourself otherwise, but it's hired help.    He needed Thailand!!!  lol

 

 

plumbers are not looked down upon in America.  what planet are you living on?  what century.  last time i called a plumber it cost me $500.  they can easily make over 100k per year.  its obviously you have never lived in America.

1 hour ago, mstevens said:

it's nice to see a foreigner standing up for themselves for a change and actually making an official complaint against a Thai in a case where on the surface it seems that one is warranted.

Totally agree, if it were me, I would do it just to see the bouncer go to jail, wouldn't be interested in damages as I wouldn't blame the owner for the bouncers actions.

 

Once the bouncer was in jail, I would like to visit him, and then when face to face behind the glass window, I would blow him a kiss and give him a wink, only then would I feel better and that justice was served.

 

Question is, would I go to all of this trouble, nope, just better to drop the ball and not play as the bouncer already lost his job.

2 hours ago, ukrules said:

What's the odds that the victim ends up in prison and/or sued for 'defamation' and forced to remain in Thailand for years while it goes through court?

There is hope.

Another 2am incident involving fools.

Will just get worse.

41 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Most security guards are polite and good at their jobs but a small minority are on a power trip, probably trying to impress some nearby thaigirl

And then there are some foreigners who like to impress the girl(s) by insulting security guards. I wonder what happens more often. I heard often enough foreigners using that f-word with Thais. Not a good idea.

9 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Totally agree, if it were me, I would do it just to see the bouncer go to jail, wouldn't be interested in damages as I wouldn't blame the owner for the bouncers actions.

 

Once the bouncer was in jail, I would like to visit him, and then when face to face behind the glass window, I would blow him a kiss and give him a wink, only then would I feel better and that justice was served.

 

Question is, would I go to all of this trouble, nope, just better to drop the ball and not play as the bouncer already lost his job.

Why should he go to jail? Does everybody who slaps anybody go to jail? 

12 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Totally agree, if it were me, I would do it just to see the bouncer go to jail, wouldn't be interested in damages as I wouldn't blame the owner for the bouncers actions.

 

Once the bouncer was in jail, I would like to visit him, and then when face to face behind the glass window, I would blow him a kiss and give him a wink, only then would I feel better and that justice was served.

 

Question is, would I go to all of this trouble, nope, just better to drop the ball and not play as the bouncer already lost his job.

Unless you are on an go trip.????

8 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Why should he go to jail? Does everybody who slaps anybody go to jail? 

Handcuffs !

Good I hope he takes them for all they got, misunderstanding <deleted> , power hungry nobody 

1 hour ago, malibukid said:

another snowflake who should go home to mommy

so you won't mind if i handcuff you and b slap you ?

1 hour ago, malibukid said:

another snowflake who should go home to mommy

Or like most people not scared to stand up for himself , sounds like you get bullied a lot and have given up being a man

This is getting blown out of proportion, Mr. Carhuff has received an apology and no doubt some cash for the embarrassment caused to him and the guard has been sacked.....leave it be, this isn't America where you can sue someone for thousands because your snowflake melted.

Sue happy American. It's one of the reason's I left. Never got a "free" bottle of water at an American bar. A glass of tap water maybe. Go back home, you're an embarrassment. 

1 hour ago, Shop mak said:

Mr. Carhuff could had met the owner already, and received a unknown amount.

 

What's the point with prosecution of the owner and the guard?

 

Owner was early very apologetic, closed the Pub for few days, fired the security man who is now famous for all the wrong reasons.

 

Strongly doubt Mr. Carhuff will get any big Payday, bringing this to Court. 

 

 

Well he got 50,000, in a settlement reported just now. Must admit it's more than I expected.

He has very suspicious looking eyes

1 hour ago, malibukid said:

plumbers are not looked down upon in America.  what planet are you living on?  what century.  last time i called a plumber it cost me $500.  they can easily make over 100k per year.  its obviously you have never lived in America.

Correct,  my nephew got into a lot of trouble in his youth he finally figure it out early missing out and not taking advantage of the education opportunity it was learning a trade.  Plumber?  

he got into a program with the City I remember standing at a intersection crossing notice him in a hole digging while superior co-worker stood LOL, 5 years forward he was making 150,000 USD,  because an inspector building department opened a side plumbing consulting how to navigate the permit process a few years later he left his gross then was close to half a million a year. 

 

Edited March 6, 20233 yr by thailand49

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