Popular Post webfact Posted April 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2023 Flickr/Andrey Bogdanov By Peter Roche Thailand’s Acting Transport Minister says a quicker-than-expected recovery in the tourism sector is behind the high cost of flying within Thailand. Atirat Ratanasate was responding to a request from caretaker PM Prayut Chan-o-cha that his ministry investigate the issue of costly airfares. The PM in turn was responding to complaints from both Thai and foreign passengers about the higher-than-pre-2019 airfares. Airfares have been demonstrably higher for foreign flights into Thailand – 50-100% increase in many cases – and the same international aviation issues are at play in the Thai domestic market as well. According to a Nation Thailand report, Atirat says a surge in both domestic and international passengers has created a significant gap between supply and demand. Since re-opening international borders in November 2021, Thailand has welcomed an average of 140,000 visitors a day. In addition, there has been a surge in the number of domestic tourists taking internal flights as the pandemic eased. Full story: https://phuket-go.com/phuket-news/national-news/transport-ministry-says-swift-tourism-recovery-has-led-to-higher-airfares/ -- © Copyright Phuket GO 2023-04-07 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. The most versatile and flexible rental investment and holiday home solution in Thailand - click for more information. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post finnsk Posted April 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) From Europe to Thailand the flight tickets is around 60-70 % higher than before covid. Only a few of the big europe route flight compagnies have reopened direct flight to Thailand. No doubt there is a big missmatch between supply and demand from europe to Thailand. It does not looks like there is many route flight tourist from Europe in Thailand. It looks like many more europe people prefer to stay in europe area for holydays than before covid. When looking at the holyday makers (with own flights) tour prices, they seems to have close to the same prices as before covid. So the high prices on route tours can not only be explained by high fuel costs, the few flight compagnies on the route from Europe to Thailand looks to make a much better profit on their seats than before covid. I know they have big loss from the covid time, so now they take the profit to cover the covid losses. If they make good profit other flight compagnies will follow sooner or later. Maybe the ticket prices will begin to fall to next high season in Thailand (december/jan) , we can only wait and see. Hard to see how the Thai government can change the situation. This is supply and demand buisness Edited April 7, 2023 by finnsk 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post malibukid Posted April 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) checked today. CNX to Phuket $200! like 400%. what can a poor boy do? but to go to London town and join in a rock and roll band. Edited April 7, 2023 by malibukid 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibukid Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, finnsk said: From Europe to Thailand the flight tickets is around 60-70 % higher than before covid. Only a few of the big europe route flight compagnies have reopened direct flight to Thailand. No doubt there is a big missmatch between supply and demand from europe to Thailand. It does not looks like there is many route flight tourist from Europe in Thailand. It looks like many more europe people prefer to stay in europe area for holydays than before covid. When looking at the holyday makers (with own flights) tour prices, they seems to have close to the same prices as before covid. So the high prices on route tours can not only be explained by high fuel costs, the few flight compagnies on the route from Europe to Thailand looks to make a much better profit on their seats than before covid. I know they have big loss from the covid time, so now they take the profit to cover the covid losses. If they make good profit other flight compagnies will follow sooner or later. Maybe the ticket prices will begin to fall to next high season in Thailand (december/jan) , we can only wait and see. Hard to see how the Thai government can change the situation. This is supply and demand buisness 1 hour ago, finnsk said: From Europe to Thailand the flight tickets is around 60-70 % higher than before covid. Only a few of the big europe route flight compagnies have reopened direct flight to Thailand. No doubt there is a big missmatch between supply and demand from europe to Thailand. It does not looks like there is many route flight tourist from Europe in Thailand. It looks like many more europe people prefer to stay in europe area for holydays than before covid. When looking at the holyday makers (with own flights) tour prices, they seems to have close to the same prices as before covid. So the high prices on route tours can not only be explained by high fuel costs, the few flight compagnies on the route from Europe to Thailand looks to make a much better profit on their seats than before covid. I know they have big loss from the covid time, so now they take the profit to cover the covid losses. If they make good profit other flight compagnies will follow sooner or later. Maybe the ticket prices will begin to fall to next high season in Thailand (december/jan) , we can only wait and see. Hard to see how the Thai government can change the situation. This is supply and demand buisness lots of pent up demand globally. hopefully things will settle down for next season. a global recession could also play a role 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Staff shortages as airlines are struggling recruit new staff after laying them off during Covid, most have found other employment, high oil price and airlines trying to recoup the losses from Covid sums it up. I would imagine airlines will be up to speed with new recruits, the oil price has dropped, will this mean cheaper fares ? No if people are prepared to pay the current prices they won’t drop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post koolkarl Posted April 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2023 Airfares have doubled to/from North America. Airlines are trying to make up for their covid losses. As far as I am concerned, they should send their bills to China and not fleece the customers who make their airlines exist in the first place. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmj Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 The pent up demand to travel will likely end soon. With the economy slowing, the inflation and flight prices going up, people will start finding alternative travel options that won’t cost as much. Hopefully then the prices will come down but I’m not holding my breath. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 4 hours ago, webfact said: Airfares have been demonstrably higher for foreign flights into Thailand – 50-100% increase in many cases – and the same international aviation issues are at play in the Thai domestic market as well. Brother put-off visiting this year due to the high flight costs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said: Staff shortages as airlines are struggling recruit new staff after laying them off during Covid, most have found other employment, high oil price and airlines trying to recoup the losses from Covid sums it up. I would imagine airlines will be up to speed with new recruits, the oil price has dropped, will this mean cheaper fares ? No if people are prepared to pay the current prices they won’t drop. There is no sign of oil prices dropping. Quite the opposite in fact, with the Saudis now limiting supply as they say it's too cheap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinRacing Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Doesn’t make sense. More bums on seats leads to higher revenue. Fares should be decreased unless opportunity is sought to make more money. The guy confirms Thai mentality of price gouging especially when foreigners are involved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Usually the more people want to fly the more competition from airlines and the lower the prices. This is just profiteering. As soon as people say it's too expensive but not coming to Thailand, prices must drop or risk offering cheaper competitors the advantage. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 I think the prices will not go down, they have found a new way to keep the price high under the guise of the CO2 and all that nonsense when you like to book a flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 It's a shortage of staff and pilots. Pilots get paid terribly considering what they do. This will not get any better, only worse. The days of cheap flights are over for now. People from different parts of the world need to be pilots - those in the first world they don't even get a living wage. Tourism has just started to rebound. This is nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcelV Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 It's over with the cheap flights. Not just now, but forever. Flight prices will only increase and flying will only be affordable for the upper middle class and above. Last year I managed to fly BKK-AMS v.v. directly for only 710 euros with EVA. This year I can only dream about such a price. That's why I have decided not to fly home to see my family this month. Such a shame, but I simply cannot afford it on my Thai salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 have to say since first going to LOS one way yearly since 2008 ive paid pretty much the same....maybe a $20 usd increase but still avg the same costs 700 usd to cross the planet from one side to the other one way..6 airports--5 flights.......(ugh) def a long haul but used to it.... 12x over--12x back 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soikhaonoiken Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 11 hours ago, koolkarl said: Airfares have doubled to/from North America. Airlines are trying to make up for their covid losses. As far as I am concerned, they should send their bills to China and not fleece the customers who make their airlines exist in the first place. The Airlines are price gouging because people want to travel again after Covid, also same as inflation, many retails are taking advantage and causing higher inflation around the world.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Bones Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 13 hours ago, malibukid said: checked today. CNX to Phuket $200! like 400%. what can a poor boy do? but to go to London town and join in a rock and roll band. It's a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll.???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Bones Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 11 hours ago, hotchilli said: Brother put-off visiting this year due to the high flight costs. Mate visited this year. His GF's other 4 sponsors did not visit (expensive).???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 11 hours ago, AustinRacing said: Doesn’t make sense. More bums on seats leads to higher revenue. Fares should be decreased unless opportunity is sought to make more money. The guy confirms Thai mentality of price gouging especially when foreigners are involved. Commonly known as greed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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