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5 hours ago, transam said:

If you are happy with it, just go on Lazada and buy a second hand motherboard. That's what I do, I can buy one for mine for about 800bht....:stoner:

Disgusting. We really don't like people just being happy with that they have.???? Especially if it isn't a NUC. A NUC running Win 11.

 

Aliexpress also has a large range of used MBs and new Chinese-made ones as well. But I like the idea of taking it to shop first. Maybe it is just the old thermal paste. Maybe his fan's dying; mine was, getting noisy, replaced it with Noctua and all's good. 

 

SSDs are a relatively good buy these days. Clone to a new WD Blue and he's good to go.

 

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You need a completely new system, everything has changed and got far better over the last decade.   I suggest you just buy a new one and then copy over what data you want to keep.  

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Toss the entire computer (except maybe the power supply). Get another one built. I live in Pattaya and am quite happy to help you organise it (free). I actually recommend a mini computer like the ASUS

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Looks like a box of snakes.  

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I'm going to be very honest.  You need to ditch the old machine or use it as a backup (if it still runs) and buy a new one. 

Moore's Law - Technological innovation and capacity doubles every two year.  Roughly a present day computer is 6 times as powerful and efficient as that 12 year old computer you have.  Rebuilding it is a waste of time.
Like sowing new cloth on wore out fabric.  Even worse.

Trust me - you'll be ecstatic with a new computer.  You can have a computer shop assemble one for you for around 10k THB for a mid-line system.

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I like to build "sleeper" computers. Take an old case, like a Compaq Presario from the late 90s, gut it and create a hot rod w/ all new parts. I'd love to see the face of a tech, years in the future, when he opens it up. 

 

Anyway, to SHOCK! answer your question, if you want to upgrade to the tune of around B12,000 you could, just off the top o' me head (but there are lots of options) do this:

 

SSD

https://www.jib.co.th/web/product/readProduct/28175

CPU

https://www.jib.co.th/web/product/readProduct/47944/CPU--ซีพียู--AMD-RYZEN-5-5600G-3-9-GHz--SOCKET-AM4-

Motherboard (ATX)

https://www.jib.co.th/web/product/readProduct/33224/MAINBOARD--เมนบอร์ด--ASROCK-B450-STEEL-LEGEND--DDR4---SOCKET-AM4---ATX-

RAM

https://www.jib.co.th/web/product/readProduct/18872

 

JIB would install for you and clone your system drive and get it running.

 

You could add a eSATA adapter card from Lazada or Aliexpress.

 

BTW, a good source for asking build/upgrade advice from sympathetic experts who'll read your post: https://reddit.com/r/buildapc/.

 

Here, you're gonna get a NUC or Rasberry Pi and thereafter confine your computer usage to surfing around, watching youtube, streaming UK TV (everyone does that constantly), and checking email. Now there is a good case to made for a NUC + NAS configuration to meet your needs--if you got the dosh. 

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1 hour ago, connda said:

I'm going to be very honest.  You need to ditch the old machine or use it as a backup (if it still runs) and buy a new one. 

Moore's Law - Technological innovation and capacity doubles every two year.  Roughly a present day computer is 6 times as powerful and efficient as that 12 year old computer you have.  Rebuilding it is a waste of time.
Like sowing new cloth on wore out fabric.  Even worse.

Trust me - you'll be ecstatic with a new computer.  You can have a computer shop assemble one for you for around 10k THB for a mid-line system.

10k? ????

Perhaps you can price one up for the OP as an example. 

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37 minutes ago, BigStar said:

I like to build "sleeper" computers. Take an old case, like a Compaq Presario from the late 90s, gut it and create a hot rod w/ all new parts. I'd love to see the face of a tech, years in the future, when he opens it up. 

 

Anyway, to SHOCK! answer your question, if you want to upgrade to the tune of around B12,000 you could, just off the top o' me head (but there are lots of options) do this:

 

SSD

https://www.jib.co.th/web/product/readProduct/28175

CPU

https://www.jib.co.th/web/product/readProduct/47944/CPU--ซีพียู--AMD-RYZEN-5-5600G-3-9-GHz--SOCKET-AM4-

Motherboard (ATX)

https://www.jib.co.th/web/product/readProduct/33224/MAINBOARD--เมนบอร์ด--ASROCK-B450-STEEL-LEGEND--DDR4---SOCKET-AM4---ATX-

RAM

https://www.jib.co.th/web/product/readProduct/18872

 

JIB would install for you and clone your system drive and get it running.

 

You could add a eSATA adapter card from Lazada or Aliexpress.

 

BTW, a good source for asking build/upgrade advice from sympathetic experts who'll read your post: https://reddit.com/r/buildapc/.

 

Here, you're gonna get a NUC or Rasberry Pi and thereafter confine your computer usage to surfing around, watching youtube, streaming UK TV (everyone does that constantly), and checking email. Now there is a good case to made for a NUC + NAS configuration to meet your needs--if you got the dosh. 

Don’t you have a power supply in your PC?

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"upgrade the computer"

 

but all we know about OP's requirements is:

- torrenting 24/7

- light video editing

- multitasking

 

unless OP wants to expand his video editing, I'd say any reasonably solid midrange machine from 5-6 years ago should do the trick.

 

speed of HDD, etc. is all secondary as long as OP does not have fiber internet.

 

another thing is OP doesn't tell or doesn't know what the specific problem with his machine is - might just need new thermal paste.

 

OP's box looks noisy though.

 

 

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Yes. You didn’t list one in your example. 

Well, go take a look at the pics of the OP's PC he wants to upgrade and see if you can find one. Bonus points: find a case and HDDs.

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2 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Well, go take a look at the pics of the OP's PC he wants to upgrade and see if you can find one. Bonus: find a case and HDDs.

Why would I do that? Are you recommending that he utilise a possibly twelve year old power supply?

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Why would I do that? Are you recommending that he utilise a possibly twelve year old power supply?

The OP didn't request a new PSU. Or a NUC or a Rasberry Pi or a new PC. 

 

Knee jerks, I don't do. Evidently he has no problems with it, unless of course that's the problem, lol. Quality brand, lots of headroom. He didn't say how old it is.

 

Quality PSUs often last longer than 12 years, as you'll read if you look, and many (knowledgeable) users don't change them until they die or don't meet new specs. Fortunately, they almost always die quietly.

 

Both the (quality) PSUs in my computers are about 15 years old, been through several upgrades with me, still good. They may last longer than I will. 

 

Cheap PSUs, such as you find in cheap builds, are a different matter. I'd switch any of those out in a minute.

 

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7 hours ago, BigStar said:

I like to build "sleeper" computers. Take an old case, like a Compaq Presario from the late 90s, gut it and create a hot rod w/ all new parts. I'd love to see the face of a tech, years in the future, when he opens it up. 

 

Anyway, to SHOCK! answer your question, if you want to upgrade to the tune of around B12,000 you could, just off the top o' me head (but there are lots of options) do this:

 

SSD

https://www.jib.co.th/web/product/readProduct/28175

CPU

https://www.jib.co.th/web/product/readProduct/47944/CPU--ซีพียู--AMD-RYZEN-5-5600G-3-9-GHz--SOCKET-AM4-

Motherboard (ATX)

https://www.jib.co.th/web/product/readProduct/33224/MAINBOARD--เมนบอร์ด--ASROCK-B450-STEEL-LEGEND--DDR4---SOCKET-AM4---ATX-

RAM

https://www.jib.co.th/web/product/readProduct/18872

 

JIB would install for you and clone your system drive and get it running.

 

You could add a eSATA adapter card from Lazada or Aliexpress.

 

BTW, a good source for asking build/upgrade advice from sympathetic experts who'll read your post: https://reddit.com/r/buildapc/.

 

Here, you're gonna get a NUC or Rasberry Pi and thereafter confine your computer usage to surfing around, watching youtube, streaming UK TV (everyone does that constantly), and checking email. Now there is a good case to made for a NUC + NAS configuration to meet your needs--if you got the dosh. 

Is there a reason why you suggest a SATA M.2 SSD module as opposed to NVME/PCIe?

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6 hours ago, ozimoron said:

5 x 12 year old drives would fit on  USB these days lol. My ASUS supports an m2 and an SSD. That should be plenty.

USB, I'd avoid. I even have a mobile SATA rack in my case for hotswapping HDs and SSDs. Now I doubt the OP wants a USB solution, but up to him, of course.

 

OP didn't say how old his drives are . . . if he got 12 years of torrenting 24/7 from any of them, he should express his gratitude to the manufacturers and ask for an endorsement fee.

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12 hours ago, BigStar said:

Disgusting. We really don't like people just being happy with that they have.???? Especially if it isn't a NUC. A NUC running Win 11.

 

Aliexpress also has a large range of used MBs and new Chinese-made ones as well. But I like the idea of taking it to shop first. Maybe it is just the old thermal paste. Maybe his fan's dying; mine was, getting noisy, replaced it with Noctua and all's good. 

 

SSDs are a relatively good buy these days. Clone to a new WD Blue and he's good to go.

 

If a carburettor had a problem, did you chuck it in the bin....?

I bet you are one who has a smartphone glued to his hand 24/7 and doesn't know why.....????

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10 hours ago, NextG said:

Why would I do that? Are you recommending that he utilise a possibly twelve year old power supply?

12yo power supply won't fit modern MB or graphics card.

Doubt there's anything worth keeping in a 12yo PC.

Even the HDs are likely to be small capacity drives.

Best to start again all new.

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18 hours ago, transam said:

If you are happy with it, just go on Lazada and buy a second hand motherboard. That's what I do, I can buy one for mine for about 800bht....:stoner:

I wonder what chipset that might be.... BX something?

And I'm about to splurge 19,000 baht on a MoBo for my new rig.

 

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2 minutes ago, SpaceKadet said:

I wonder what chipset that might be.... BX something?

And I'm about to splurge 19,000 baht on a MoBo for my new rig.

 

To read TVF, wow..........................????

 

Folk used to go drag racing, now they do it with a PC to get impressed.....????

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1 hour ago, BigStar said:

USB, I'd avoid. I even have a mobile SATA rack in my case for hotswapping HDs and SSDs. Now I doubt the OP wants a USB solution, but up to him, of course.

 

OP didn't say how old his drives are . . . if he got 12 years of torrenting 24/7 from any of them, he should express his gratitude to the manufacturers and ask for an endorsement fee.

sorry, it was misplaced sarcasm about the capacity of old drives. I wasn't suggesting he use USBs. My point was that he probably doesn't need 5 drives anymore. 1 m2 and 1 ssd should do the job. It does seem that he wants the rig specifically as a torrent server so probably should have a full sized case so that he can stuff it full of cheap spinning drives with larger capacity than solid state drives.

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