Trying to get Thai Birth Certificate - but it's been destroyed by district office

[jjj555]

Hi all,

 

Over the years this forum has offered me countless hours in helpful and entertaining content. Thanks for that ????

 

I have an interesting situation that I would like advice on:

I'm trying to get my Thai passport but I've been told by the Thai Consulate in Los Angeles that I'll need my original birth certificate, or if that is unavailable, a "letter of birth certificate".

 

Prior to contacting the Thai Consulate, I visited the Udon Thani district office to get my birth certificate. However, they where not able to find my birth certificate or any evidence of it. They gave me an official letter stating that it was not found.

 

I do have a certified English translation of the original Thai birth certificate. 

 

I was born in Udon Thani over 30 years ago in a local clinic. The clinic no longer exists.

 

My mom lives in USA now and it's not easy for her to travel. However, I have aunts, uncles and a brother in Thailand.

 

I'll be visiting in June, so I'm planning on asking for a  "letter of birth certificate". If anyone is familiar with this process, your help is greatly appreciated! 

 

 

 

 

[BritTim]

Contact a well connected lawyer who specializes in family matters. Did you ever attend school in Thailand? If so, they may have a copy of your original birth certificate that the district office might certify if you are lucky. Good luck!

[jjj555]

Thanks BritTim, we tried the school route but no luck. Too long ago I think.

[asiaexpat]

The OP must find the TabienBaan that he was registered in at birth. The District office can find the records from that. This took a lot of time and work for my son years ago.

[kidneyw]

My daughter was born in Phetchabun thirty years ago. Somehow we lost her Thai birth registration certificate (although we had all the English translation paperwork).

Anyway, we needed a copy. We went to the nearest Amphur in Bangkok and within five minutes they had printed out a copy of the original, which was duly stamped.

Think it was ten baht a copy.

All that was required was her Thai ID card.

 

[hotandsticky]

7 minutes ago, kidneyw said:

My daughter was born in Phetchabun thirty years ago. Somehow we lost her Thai birth registration certificate (although we had all the English translation paperwork).

Anyway, we needed a copy. We went to the nearest Amphur in Bangkok and within five minutes they had printed out a copy of the original, which was duly stamped.

Think it was ten baht a copy.

All that was required was her Thai ID card.

 

 

 

I understand that copies of such documents can be obtained from ANY amphur office.

[Maestro]

8 hours ago, kidneyw said:

...All that was required was her Thai ID card.

This leads to the question if the OP, @jjj555, in possession of his Thai ID card.

[jjj555]

2 hours ago, Maestro said:

This leads to the question if the OP, @jjj555, in possession of his Thai ID card.

Unfortunately not. I believe the minimum age for a Thai ID card was 15 or 16 when I lived there. I left Thailand before that.

[jjj555]

16 hours ago, asiaexpat said:

The OP must find the TabienBaan that he was registered in at birth. The District office can find the records from that. This took a lot of time and work for my son years ago.

Worth a try ???? My mom unfortunately doesn't remember the district we lived in at my birth, but I'm going through her records to see what I can find.

 

I did find a copy of a TabienBaan from a place I lived in Korat, so I'll chase that lead as well.

[Maestro]

19 minutes ago, jjj555 said:

Unfortunately not. I believe the minimum age for a Thai ID card was 15 or 16 when I lived there. I left Thailand before that.

Do you have a Thai passport?

[Maestro]

Your Thai ID number is on the ID page of your passport but it just occurred to me that if the district office lost the record of your birth before it was saved in a comuter database, this will not help them trace it.

 

[Maestro]

There have been a number of posts over the years indicating that the testimony of close relatives enabled the district office to issue a substitute document for the birth certificate.

[jjj555]

20 hours ago, Maestro said:

Do you have a Thai passport?

I don't. I was able to get a US passport and left Thailand on that.

[jjj555]

20 hours ago, Maestro said:

There have been a number of posts over the years indicating that the testimony of close relatives enabled the district office to issue a substitute document for the birth certificate.

Thanks Maestro. I've seen that too. I'm thinking about bringing my aunt or brother to Udon with me. They live a couple of hours north of Bangkok.

[kiwiaussie]

46 minutes ago, jjj555 said:

Thanks Maestro. I've seen that too. I'm thinking about bringing my aunt or brother to Udon with me. They live a couple of hours north of Bangkok.

If you can’t find your ID number for the district office to cross reference (it should be at the top of your Thai birth certificate), then you now have the option of a DNA test with close relatives to get citizenship https://www.thaicitizenship.com/thai-citizenship-using-dna-testing

[jjj555]

On 4/21/2023 at 9:04 AM, kiwiaussie said:

If you can’t find your ID number for the district office to cross reference (it should be at the top of your Thai birth certificate), then you now have the option of a DNA test with close relatives to get citizenship https://www.thaicitizenship.com/thai-citizenship-using-dna-testing

Thanks Kiwi. I ask the Thai embassy in the USA and said this won't work for me since I already have a birth certificate. They said I'll need to go to then Udon Thani District office.

[DrJoy]

On 4/21/2023 at 1:07 AM, jjj555 said:

I did find a copy of a TabienBaan from a place I lived in Korat

That must have your 13 digit Thai citizenship number on it.

It can start with 1, 2 or 3